User talk:Keith D/Archive 47

Tech News: 2015-06
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Problems
 * There was a security issue on Wikimedia Labs. Many Labs tools were down after the issue was fixed.

Software changes this week
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 * The "Save page" button in the VisualEditor toolbar is now blue rather than green. This is the same as on the mobile site.
 * You can now edit pages on the draft namespace with VisualEditor on the Russian Wikipedia and Hebrew Wikipedia. You can ask to get VisualEditor for a namespace on your wiki. When your community agrees, ask in Phabricator.

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Grammar
Thanks for correcting my grammar at Somalis in the United Kingdom. I must have left that word in by mistake when rewording the sentence. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:31, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

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Advice needed
Hi Keith, as you are an admin working on WikiProject Yorkshire, I would appreciate your advice re Cross Hills. First, the article has come under attack by this person who is subject to site-wide WP:BAN. He is using IP:217.39.74.176 and User:Cross Hills1. Given his persistence once he hits on a target, I think the article should be protected for a suitable period. Secondly, I'm a little concerned by the recent edits of User:Strategic1900 and IP:87.115.59.60, evidently the same person, as the stuff about a day nursery seems to constitute advertising especially with words like "very popular" and the use of bold text. Thanks very much. Jack | talk page 16:08, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note, I have tweaked the article to remove the bold, "very popular" and moved the external link to a reference for the sentence. I have not come across the editor before so have no back ground to them but seems like an article protection would help here as they only appear to be interested in this article at the moment. Keith D (talk) 17:49, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Keith. Jack | talk page 20:14, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Bold names
Hi Keith, looking for a second opinion please on the Murder of Lesley Molseed article. In the second paragraph an editor has enboldened two names for emphasis. I removed the bold naming, however the editor replaced them, claiming they are a redirect. I reverted that edit as neither name is a Wikilink, nor has an article on Wiki. The Editor has again replaced them. So I thought I would get a second opinion, rather than fall foul of the 3RR rule, or get accused of edit warring. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richard Harvey (talk • contribs) 14:21, 5 February 2015‎ (UTC)


 * Sorry to butt in here. What the other editor means is that the names are the targets of redirects. Try going to Stefan Kiszko or Ronald Castree. I don't know the MOS well enough to know if that legitimizes their bolding, but that is certainly the explanation of the other editor's intent. Hope this helps. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 14:46, 5 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Addendum - ah yes, as given in the other editor's edit summary, here we go: WP:R - it seems that the bold is indeed encouraged. DBaK (talk) 14:53, 5 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Gotcha. That is more explanative than what the edit summary was. :) Richard Harvey (talk) 15:27, 5 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Looks like you have sorted this out between yourselves. I would have created redirects as they are important people in the article in question. It may be appropriate to add categories to the redirects so that they get categorised and can be found easily. Keith D (talk) 16:43, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-07
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Recent software changes
 * You can now use  to transclude a section with its title.

Problems
 * MediaWiki was reverted to the previous version on February 4. It was because of a performance issue. It was restored later.
 * UploadWizard was broken on February 4 because of the revert of MediaWiki.
 * All sites were broken for 30 minutes on February 5. It was due to a network problem.

Software changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since February 5. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from February 10. It will be on all Wikipedias from February 11 (calendar).
 * You can have one user page for all wikis. Your Meta user page will show if you don't have a user page on a wiki. You can test this tool on test wikis.
 * You can search for media files in VisualEditor more easily. Images are bigger and you see the size and license.
 * It is easier to review your changes when you save the page in VisualEditor. The window is wider.
 * You can read the latest news about VisualEditor. You can now join weekly meetings with developers. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The first meeting is on February 11 at 20:00 (UTC).

Future changes
 * Administrators will soon be able to delete change tags used fewer than 5,000 times.
 * In the future you will be able to have personal lists of articles on the mobile site.

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The Village Of Shepley
Hello Keith,

You last assessed the page for the village of Shepley in 2009 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepley), since when it has been greatly expanded upon. Would it be possible to have another look to see if it merits a B-class and if not then what can we do to reach that standard?

Thank you in advance and for your efforts in general. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarcusThornton (talk • contribs) 14:21, 10 February 2015‎ (UTC)
 * I will take a look later when I have time. Just about to go out. Keith D (talk) 14:29, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks like my initial comment has already been addressed by another user which would be the ordering of the sections. See WP:UKPLACES for more detail.
 * The main thing that remains is the referencing of the material. The existing references are mainly bare URLs which need to be addressed to avoid link rot by adding things like titles, publisher, published date & access date, personally I would use templates such as cite web to get consistency but that is not a requirement. Provision of additional references to address the main banner on the page would be the next step. Once addressed then I would think that it could be uprated to a B-class article.
 * The final point would be a general copy-edit to bring it into line with the WP:MOS, such as heading capitalisation and use of em-dashes. Though this would not prevent it becoming a B-class article though would be needed if you go for good article status.
 * Hope this helps. Keith D (talk) 19:54, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, Keith. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.246.186.165 (talk) 13:35, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

About your (non)participation in the January 2012 SOPA vote
Hi Keith. I am Piotr Konieczny (User:Piotrus), you may know me as an active content creator (see my userpage), but I am also a professional researcher of Wikipedia. Recently I published a paper (downloadable here) on reasons editors participated in Wikipedia's biggest vote to date (January 2012 WP:SOPA). I am now developing a supplementary paper, which analyzes why many editors did not take part in that vote. Which is where you come in :) You are a highly active Wikipedian (69th), and you were active back during the January 2012 discussion/voting for the SOPA, yet you did not chose to participate in said vote. I'd appreciate it if you could tell me why was that so? For your convenience, I prepared a short survey at meta, which should not take more than a minute of your time. I would dearly appreciate you taking this minute; not only as a Wikipedia researcher but as a fellow content creator and concerned member of the community (I believe your answers may help us eventually improve our policies and thus, the project's governance). PS. If you chose to reply here (on your userpage), please WP:ECHO me. Thank you! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 23:26, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * My responses are as follows -


 * A1 - a


 * A2 - d - not clear what SOPA was/is


 * A3 -


 * A4 - No


 * A5 - No - not by annoying banner adverts


 * Keith D (talk) 23:40, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
This wiki-kitten is here to thank you for taking part in my survey!

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 11:20, 12 February 2015 (UTC) 

Football player height
Hello Keith D, I see you understand WP:UNITS the same way I do. I've been struggling for ages trying to put feet/inches first in English football articles and yet 2 or 3 people keep arguing they must be meters first because the Premier League website does it that way! I tried to explain and tried in vain to get them to justify their stubbornness but have so far failed. One of them even got the huge sanctions warning message out on my page but I couldn't get it put on Qed237's page and he is as bad as Michael Glass at not sticking to WP:UNITS. Can you help me to persuade them they are wrong please? I'm getting a bit sick of their continual misunderstanding on this. Speccy4Eyes (talk) 20:27, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I do not think that I have much chance on that one - Michael Glass has spent several years at trying to metricate everything in sight and made numerous attempts at changing the Manual of Style. It is like flogging a dead horse to get him to stop making changes and sanctions are in place against any changes on UK related articles at the moment without agreement see General sanctions/Units in the United Kingdom. It is probably why he is asking on the talk pages of individual articles so as it avoid any further action. My guess is it as best to ask the one who posted the notice on your talk page as they seem to be policing this. May be raise the problem over players heights with him for clarification as they instigated the call for sanctions and drafted them. The other place to raise concerns is WP:AN/I which will get a wider audience. Keith D (talk) 22:17, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-08
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Software changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since February 11. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from February 17. It will be on all Wikipedias from February 18 (calendar).
 * On Wednesday your Meta user page will be shown if you don't have a user page on a wiki.
 * You can now change the order of categories in VisualEditor using drag-and-drop.
 * In VisualEditor, you now need to make a change before you can "Apply Changes" to citations and templates.
 * The way the cursor moves in VisualEditor is changing. Your browser now handles the cursor directly. Most of you will see no change. In right-to-left text, the cursor now moves in a 'visible' rather than 'logical' way. This is like other sites but you may be surprised at first.​

Meetings
 * The VisualEditor Team had their first public bug triage meeting on February 11. They will post the results on the meeting page.
 * You can join the second weekly meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on February 18 at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * You can join a meeting with the developers of the Content Translation tool. It will be on February 18 at 13:00 (UTC).

Future changes
 * You can comment on a proposal about abandoned Labs tools.

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England / UK
Hi there, I'm pretty sure you won't be aware of this consensus, but it's regarding the removal or addition of "UK" to placenames in infoboxes etc. I see you've made a few changes in that regard, although nobody would call them "systematic". We had a couple of people removing "UK" on a mass basis, and plenty of people who were persistently restoring it and adding it elsewhere too. I just thought I'd let you know about this consensus to basically leave things as they are found, which makes for a quieter life. So far it has stood up very well; it seems as if the cessation of the systematic removal of "UK" has resulted in the cessation of its systematic addition. The discussion was here. Cheers, Bretonbanquet (talk) 11:45, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note. The ones that I change are usually those that have systematically had UK added by a roving IP, where I remove from all of their contributions. They tend to hit an item on my watchlist because they usually add the historic county as well. Keith D (talk) 12:11, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * No worries, yes, there are a couple of other editors who undo additions / removals by roving IPs and that's a good thing. We encountered one floating IP who was adding "UK" everywhere along with historic counties, and he was difficult to deal with, but I think he got the message in the end. I find the link to the consensus is handy to ward off anyone who starts changing a lot of articles. Cheers, Bretonbanquet (talk) 12:15, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-09
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Recent software changes
 * All new accounts are now global.
 * Your Meta user page is now shown if you don't have a user page on a wiki. You can report problems if you see any. You can ask a bot to delete your old user pages.

Software changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since February 18. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from February 25. It will be on all Wikipedias from February 26 (calendar).
 * It is now easier to see template fields in VisualEditor. The fields are bigger.
 * It is now easier to see when a button is disabled in VisualEditor.
 * Sometimes when you copy-pasted a template in VisualEditor, it was replaced by HTML. This problem is now fixed.
 * Tools in Labs will stop working for a few hours on February 24.

Meetings
 * You can read the notes from the last meeting with the VisualEditor team.
 * You can join the next weekly meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on February 26 at 00:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * At the moment you need to log in to edit Wikimedia wikis on mobile devices. You can say if anyone should be allowed to edit on the mobile sites. The discussion ends on March 15.
 * Images in the interface will soon work better in Opera 12.

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Another list of Somerset scheduled monuments at FLC
As you have previously commented on one or more of nominations of the lists of scheduled monuments in Somerset, I wondered if you would be kind enough to take a look at the List of scheduled monuments in Sedgemoor which is now nominated at Featured list candidates/List of scheduled monuments in Sedgemoor/archive1?&mdash; Rod talk 21:13, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Geoffrey Cox (British politician)
Apologies Keith, I was doing an offline edit on the above and overwrote your normally much appreciated efforts to improve my punctuation. Regards JRPG (talk) 14:44, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, no problem. Keith D (talk) 17:35, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

GEORGE HUDSON
Bailey reference added - thanks for spotting.--Davidvaughanwells (talk) 21:23, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - March 2015
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Tech News: 2015-10
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Recent software changes
 * A Lua function to use Wikidata has changed. You need to update the pages that use it.
 * You can use the Content Translation tool on Wikipedia in Uzbek and Minangkabau. You need to enable it in your Beta options.
 * You can now hide banners if you don't have an account.

Software changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since February 25. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from March 3. It will be on all Wikipedias from March 4 (calendar).
 * You can use the Content Translation tool on Wikipedia in Punjabi and Kyrgyz. You can ask for the tool in other languages.
 * Editing the fake blank line in VisualEditor is now simpler. This change also fixed a few bugs.
 * The TemplateData editor now warns you if a related page already has TemplateData.
 * The TemplateData table now tells you if a template doesn't take any parameters.

Meetings
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 * You can join the next weekly meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on March 4 at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * You can join technical meetings in France and Mexico this year. You will be able to ask for help if you can't pay yourself.

Future changes
 * You will be able to get a direct link for a section of a page.

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Tech News: 2015-11
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Recent changes
 * You can now create books on almost all wikis. It doesn't work yet on wikis using the language converter.
 * VisualEditor had problems with categories in Safari. It sometimes moved or removed the categories. The issue is now fixed.

Changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since March 4. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from March 10. It will be on all Wikipedias from March 11 (calendar).
 * In VisualEditor the "Edit beta" button is now called "Edit" on the English Wikipedia.
 * The feedback tool in VisualEditor now looks like the other tools. It also asks for information about your browser to help fix bugs.
 * You now see the VisualEditor toolbar even if the rest of the page is still loading.
 * You now see more information when you edit a link, a reference or other items in VisualEditor. You also see a clearer edit button in those tools.
 * If you use the ContentTranslation tool you now see red links in the list of articles in other languages. The link is red if the article doesn't exist in the language of your options or of your browser. You can translate the article by clicking on the red link.

Meetings
 * You can read the notes from the last meeting with the VisualEditor team.
 * You can join the next weekly meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on March 11 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * You can join a technical meeting in France in May. You can ask for help if you can't pay yourself.

Future changes
 * You can get help to become a developer. You can learn more on the Google Summer of Code and Outreachy pages.
 * You will soon be able to read technical reports in Phabricator.

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Tech News: 2015-12
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Recent changes
 * The servers that resize images are using new software. You should report new problems that you notice with images.
 * You can now see lists of bugs about Commons, Wikisource and Wiktionary.
 * It is now easier to add special characters in VisualEditor. You can edit the list of characters for your wiki.

Problems
 * Wikis were broken for a few minutes on Thursday due to a code error.

Changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since March 11. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from March 17. It will be on all Wikipedias from March 18 (calendar).
 * A puzzle piece icon (VisualEditor - Icon - Template-big.svg) now shows hidden templates in VisualEditor. You can edit the template by clicking the icon. For example, you can now edit anchor templates.
 * You can now add examples, and details about old parameters, in TemplateData.

Meetings
 * You can read the notes from the last meeting with the VisualEditor team.
 * You can join the next weekly meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on March 18 at 23:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * The list of bad user names on your wiki will no longer work. The global list will replace it. You can ask to add rules for bad user names on Meta.
 * You can comment on how you want to see Wikidata edits in your watchlist on other wikis.
 * The final steps of single user login (SUL) will happen in April. You can see the rules to rename accounts.

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Leeds Wiki meetup 11 April
Hi Keith mate, there is a wiki meetup in Leeds on 11 April. Please can you include this [as a priority] in the Wikiproject Yorkshire news letter? Cheers mate, regards IJA (talk) 10:59, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
 * OK will give it a plug. Keith D (talk) 11:56, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
 * There has been a change of date for the wikimeetup, it is now on Sunday 12 April. Cheers mate IJA (talk) 16:06, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-13
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Changes this week Meetings
 * The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since March 18. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from March 24. It will be on all Wikipedias from March 25 (calendar).
 * The text of a reference is now more visible when you click on it. It has a blue background. Many wikis already have the blue color. Those wikis can now remove it from their CSS page.
 * VisualEditor is now much faster. For many users it is now at least as fast as the wikitext editor.
 * When you add a list of references in VisualEditor, you now see it right away. You can still change its group by editing it.
 * You can read the notes from the last meeting with the VisualEditor team.
 * You can join the next weekly meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on March 25 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Talk pages using "LiquidThreads" on mediawiki.org will soon use the new system.

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University of Sheffield accommodation
Hi Keith D, I think there are concerns with this article, which you've dropped in on recently. It's a long and unsourced promotional piece for the accommodations--not in terms of hype, but the unreferenced, trivial details suggest a WP:SPA and WP:COI effort. I've left a few messages with the relevant account, but my experience here leads me to believe that someone in the business office is acting on orders to flesh out the article, guidelines be damned. Any assistance would be appreciated. Many thanks, 2602:302:D89:83E9:DCF:FD75:97E9:3302 (talk) 19:49, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I think that they have decided to call it a day and removed their edits with this edit leaving it with less that it had previously. Keith D (talk) 22:40, 23 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I have also converted that unecessary article into a redirect to the University of Sheffield section and removed further unecessary promotional drivel from the section. If people want to see accomodation details they can go to their main website. Richard Harvey (talk) 23:00, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Another list of Somerset scheduled monuments at FLC
As you have previously commented on one or more of nominations of the lists of scheduled monuments in Somerset, I wondered if you would be kind enough to take a look at the List of scheduled monuments in West Somerset which is now nominated at Featured list candidates/List of scheduled monuments in West Somerset/archive1?&mdash; Rod talk 21:15, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Normanton, Lincolnshire
Hi Keith. Can you have a look at the very recent history of this one please ? An IP added stuff about a struck-off dentist, and outed the place where she lives, something not mentioned in the ref given. I have reduced the text to something less sensational - I'm not sure the story adds anything to this place article anyway, and could well be removed entirely. What I think might be important is to remove the outing address by removing the history of these additions. Cheers. Acabashi (talk) 00:49, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, I have hidden the 4 revisions of the article that give the name and address of the person. The story probably does not add much to the article unless you are a local who may be interested in it so if you want to remove it then go ahead. Keith D (talk) 01:25, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for that Keith. Acabashi (talk) 01:31, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Ian Lavery
Hi Keith,

Thanks for the advice on dates and things, new to editting on wikipedia so trying my best!

I see you've edited on the page Ian Lavery before correcting grammatical errors along with other nonsense that users have placed on the page. (I've probably put some stuff on myself)

Could you keep an eye out for another user's edits on the page? I have no problems with other people wanting to add information, but it seems clear that a certain user has an agenda against the page, shown by his continued use of tabloid references to justify his own political beliefs. I didn't start editing on Wikipedia to become entangled in an on-line war but it seems every time I have added or edited information, this user wishes to delete or alter for their own personal gain.

P.S Ill try my best to stop using th and st after dates!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hierachy2015 (talk • contribs) 10:14, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for the note. He is on my watchlist so I should spot any changes to the article. Keith D (talk) 12:28, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

please rerun your mosnum script on Milton Keynes
I reverted about 10 updates to Milton Keynes because of a silly and uniformed edit war between IP editors. I'm afraid your edit to apply wp:mosnum was a victim of collateral damage. I'm sorry for that but it I don't know of any better way. I hope it will not be too inconvenient for you to rerun the script please. It is not practical for me to do it myself. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 12:01, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. I have re-applied the changes. Keith D (talk) 13:13, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

(High) Sheriff of Yorkshire
There is a page entitled "High Sheriff of Yorkshire" and a category, with quite a lot of members. However, there has never been a High Sheriff of Yorkshire (as the page makes clear). The people in the category were all Sheriffs, not High Sheriffs. Since 1974 there have been High Sheriffs of the constituent parts, but never of the whole historic county. I therefore think it should be Sheriff (with a redirect from High Sheriff), but this affect all the pages of the Sheriffs. Do you have a suggestion? Chemical Engineer (talk) 16:12, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The High Sheriff article indicates that it was just Sheriff before 1974 so is what you say true for other former counties? Keith D (talk) 16:38, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
 * As I understand it the 1974 brought in consistency so that for all counties the office was High Sheriff. However, at that point Yorkshire was not a county in the meaning of the act, so the office of Sheriff of Yorkshire ended. And, as is my point, there never was a High Sheriff of Yorkshire.  I cannot think of any other county arrangement which might have suffered a similar fate. Chemical Engineer (talk) 19:43, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
 * May be consult and see what that says. Keith D (talk) 19:53, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The book may be more authoritative. Interestingly but not conclusively, I have found a copy of a sermon from 1670, which was preached before (it says) "Philip Monckton Knight, being High-Sheriff of Yorkshire".  Another printed 1670, but preached in 1669 was before "Sir John Armitage, being then High-Sheriff of Yorkshire"  Thus the Wiki entry on Sheriffs might not be correct.Chemical Engineer (talk) 20:48, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
 * However London Gazette 1668 appoints only Sheriffs, including Armitage, as does the Gazette of 1962. A newspaper of 1807 announces the marriage of R. F. Wilson, High Sheriff of Yorkshire.  I might surmise that High Sheriff was a courtesy rather than official title. Chemical Engineer (talk) 21:02, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Ref checks
Hi Keith D Could you [plesea check all refs for these articles 1) Potternewton 2) Martineau family 3) Lupton family 4) Oswald Birley 5) Arnold Lupton 6) Headingley (UK)

I really hope you can help me - I am much better - but please do a general check up if that is possible Thanks M E R — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.214.63.12 (talk) 10:27, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks so much Keith D 3 last things - is there something wrong with ref number 75 on the "Lupton family" page? and - is the page  "Unitarianism" OK? Please check Albert Kitson, 2nd Baron Airedale too. Thanks again M.R. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.214.63.12 (talk) 12:01, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I have made a quick check and they look OK. I have made a couple of changes to improve layout of the refs. There is a problem with ref 75 on the Lupton family page but cannot fix that one as I do not have access to source. The ref needs title adding with the title of the article in the journal. Keith D (talk) 12:19, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-14
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Recent changes
 * You can now hide site banners even if you don't have an account.
 * You can now add citations more easily with VisualEditor on the French and Italian Wikipedia. The tool adds the information when you add some types of links. In the future you will be able to add this tool to your wiki.
 * All sites should now be faster if you have a recent browser.
 * You could see a serious bug when editing some templates with VisualEditor. It was fixed quickly.
 * VisualEditor could break when you edited an image. The issue was fixed quickly.

Changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since March 25. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from March 31. It will be on all Wikipedias from April 1 (calendar).
 * VisualEditor is now the main editing tool on 53 more Wikipedias.
 * You can now edit the mobile site of all wikis without an account.
 * You can test a new tool on the beta mobile site on the English Wikipedia. With the new tool, you can create lists of articles.
 * You can now see that VisualEditor is opening even if you're not looking at the top of the page.
 * VisualEditor doesn't leave empty titles with just nowiki tags any more.

Meetings
 * You can join a meeting with the Wikidata team. The meeting will be on IRC on March 31 at 16:00 (UTC).
 * You can read the notes from the last meeting with the VisualEditor team.
 * You can join the next weekly meeting with the Editing team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on April 1 at 18:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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