User talk:Keith D/Archive 54

iPort
Citing_sources .. Editors should not attempt to change an article's established citation style merely on the grounds of personal preference

Your most recent edit to iPort changde from one citation style to another, with no apparent reason.

Additionally in doing so you broke the Harvard referencing.Zn3N2 (talk) 15:40, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-18
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 * The visual editor now works when you use Internet Explorer 9.

Problems
 * There was a security problem with the MobileFrontend extension. It showed information that had been oversighted. This has now been fixed.

Changes this week
 * You can now see which notifications are available on a wiki on Special:DisplayNotificationsConfiguration.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from May 3. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from May 4. It will be on all wikis from May 5 (calendar).

Meetings
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Future changes
 * Pages could be added to new users' watchlists by default when they edit them. New users could also by default get email notifications when pages they watch are edited. This is discussed on Meta.

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WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - May 2016
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Park Hill, Sheffield
Thanks for the reassessment- would you like to elaborate what you wish to see improved.

The criteria say: that a Start class article is: ''The article has a usable amount of good content but is weak in many areas. Quality of the prose may be distinctly unencyclopedic, and MoS compliance non-existent. The article should satisfy fundamental content policies, such as BLP. Frequently, the referencing is inadequate, although enough sources are usually provided to establish verifiability. No Start-Class article should be in any danger of being speedily deleted.''

Which areas do you find to be weak- where does it break MoS compliance. Which part of the referencing is inadequate?

I have checked again the B1-B6 criteria, and put a tick against each one. Sometimes we have aspiration for aspects of quality that are not actually mandated. I don't view this primarity as a county article but an architectural one so I may be overlooking something absolutely basic. --ClemRutter (talk) 22:26, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, I was toying with giving it a C-class but thought that may be some of the formatting on the article need to be looked at. In the references the use of italics for newspaper titles, such as the Guardian. Needs some dashes replacing by en-dashes, for example in the Background section. There are a few problems with strange breaking after numbers that could do with some non-breaking spaces to keep things together. A bare URL for ref 18. There also appears to be some dated information in "Listing and renovation" where it notes "...social housing is now underway" but the references are from 2009. Could do with some update or something to indicate it is still current, may be an as of 2016. Nothing major there, a few more references mainly at the end of the Arts section would get this up to a B-class. Keith D (talk) 09:42, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-19
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Recent changes
 * Wikiversities now have better access to Wikidata. They can use data from any page on Wikidata on any page on Wikiversity. This happened on May 3.
 * You can use Wikipedia GapFinder to find missing articles between languages.
 * Users are invited to try Cross-wiki Notifications on all wikis. This is the last test session before the release by default, scheduled for May 12th at 23:00 UTC.
 * You can use keyboard shortcuts to open the visual editor (meta+V) or the wikitext editor (meta+E) (on certain wikis, even if you have chosen a favorite editor).
 * Uploading files bigger than 100 megabytes on Wikimedia Commons required to opt-in in your preferences. This is not necessary anymore.
 * The UploadsLink extension is now available on Wikimedia Commons.
 * Deleting a translation unit page didn't remove the corresponding content from the translation page. This is now solved.
 * Translation suggestions based on Apertium are now available on Mediawiki.org.

Problems
 * MediaWiki 1.27.0-wmf.23 has been rolled back from Wikimedia wikis, due to a performance issue.

Changes this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from May 10. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from May 11. It will be on all wikis from May 12 (calendar).

Meetings
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 * 2017 European hackathon will happen on May 19 - 21, in Vienna (Austria).

Future changes
 * Today, in categories, a page titled "11" comes before "2". We plan to reorder that: "2" will come before "11". Please tell the developers if the change will cause problems.

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Tech News: 2016-20
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Recent changes
 * Some image thumbnails now load faster on mobile. They also take up less bandwidth.

Problems
 * Last week's MediaWiki version was late on some wikis.

Changes this week
 * Special:Notifications will have "mark as read" buttons for each day. The non-JavaScript version will get it this week. A JavaScript version will come later.
 * Wikis can now locally decide what wikitext they want the signature button to produce.
 * A one-time welcome message for users will now be shown in the wikitext editor. This will include existing users.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from May 17. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from May 18. It will be on all wikis from May 19 (calendar).

Meetings
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Future changes
 * Using self-closing tags like  and   to mean   and   will not work in the future. Templates and pages that use these tags should be fixed. When Phabricator ticket T134423 is fixed these tags will parse as   and   instead. This is normal in HTML5.

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Tech News: 2016-21
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Recent changes
 * You now see a warning message on pages that try to use but it doesn't work because it doesn't match the page's actual title.

Problems
 * Commons had problems with server lag. This meant that it took longer time for files to turn up in categories.

Changes this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 May. It will be on all wikis from 26 May (calendar).

Meetings
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Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg All HTTP access to Wikimedia sites and APIs will stop working. Some bots still use HTTP. They will need to use HTTPS instead. This will happen on June 12.

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Edits white-washing UK
I am puzzled by the massive number of edits you have made, using slightly ambiguous edit summaries such as "overlinking & unnecessary", removing UK or United Kingdom from the birthplace field in infoboxes. Firstly, the template infobox documenation suggests including the "country" - commonly known to mean "sovereign state". Secondly, I believe a de facto consensus exists against your edits. A very length RfC with wide participation was held on this subject at Talk:Jeremy Corbyn, which resulted in an overwhelming consensus in favour of using "UK" in the infobox for birthplace (eg Chippenham, Wiltshire, England, UK). Do you have any rationale behind your edits? AusLondonder (talk) 15:25, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I am utterly astounded by the sheer scale of how many edits you have made doing this. AusLondonder (talk) 01:11, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I am disappointed that you felt that you must revert my changes while I was away without waiting for a reply.


 * To explain, apart from 1 change, I was reverting out changes made by an IP who hops around and keeps adding England/Wales/Scotland/Northern Ireland plus UK, wikilinking both, linking the UK to the various varieties of it used through history. Though some are from previous visits by the IP to the article in question rather than their latest visit. I am one of a number of people who do the reverting out of this change from the said IP. You will see others using edit summaries such as "europe, earth, the solar system, the milky way; WP:OVERLINK". The others usually just perform a revert, but I tend to just remove the location changes as their other edits tend to be appropriate changes, such as capitalisation.


 * There is consensus not to link countries, which makes things difficult for UK as it could be various things depending on the time frame of the article in question. There is no consensus for using UK or not using UK, the consensus is not to keep changing it, similar to date formats and English variety, as this IP is doing, thus it is appropriate to reverse their changes. Keith D (talk) 09:15, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
 * If you had simply de-linked the country I would have raised no concerns. I think the RfC should be seen as a weak consensus in favour of always having UK in the infobox (the same as U.S.) as no contrary consensus exists and it seems to be supported by the template documentation. I apologise if my initial comments sounded abrupt AusLondonder (talk) 09:22, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-22
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Recent changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg There is now a standard way to get the target of a redirect page from a Lua module.

Problems
 * A new way to handle rollback was introduced. It broke some tools and scripts and was reverted. This will be re-planned after review.
 * CentralNotice didn't work in some older browsers. This has now been fixed.

Changes this week
 * When you edit a file or category page with the visual editor the rest of the page will be shown in its normal place.
 * The Translate extension will get an edit summary field.
 * A change to the  feature could break some user scripts. Contact Bawolff if the "click to insert special characters" links in the edit window break on your wiki.
 * Elasticsearch will be upgraded on Wikimedia wikis this week. This should not affect you, but if you have problems with the search function this is probably the reason.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 31 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 June. It will be on all wikis from 2 June (calendar).

Meetings
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Mary Boleyn
Hi Keith Please do a general check on the page Mary Boleyn - it was very hard to edit on my phone. As always, thanks in advance. M.E. Reed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.189.0.102 (talk) 12:33, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

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WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - June 2016
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Tech News: 2016-23
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Recent changes
 * MathML/SVG is now the default  rendering mode on Wikimedia projects.

Changes this week
 * The history page can tell you if a page on your watchlist was updated since you last visited it. This now works the same way in Vector as in other skins. The change broke local designs on some wikis. This will be fixed this week.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 June. It will be on all wikis from 9 June (calendar).

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82.112.144.10
Revoke talk page access for user:82.112.144.10. 2602:306:3357:BA0:91FA:29C8:1A98:AC81 (talk) 22:03, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Adding & n b s p ;
Hi Keith, it's been a long time since I bothered you, so I thought I'd give it a go! I've seen people adding this text inbetween a number and the word million lots of times & n b s p ; (my spaces). I've tried looking for a WP to relate to what it does, but have come up blank. What is it for? Hope you are well, Best wishes.The joy of all things (talk) 18:30, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, I see you have been working through the errors in articles, I am still catching-up on changes from my watchlist from break. The & n b s p ; is a non-breaking space that prevents a browser inserting a line break at that point and causing strange rendering. Numbers and units should always be held together with non-breaking spaces to make them read better when rendered. Keith D (talk) 18:44, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Keith. Yes, I have been trying to get the number of articles that need attention down as much as possible, but some are so tricky.... (and work gets in the way!) Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 18:47, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * in mainspace we have List of XML and HTML character entity references for such codes; they’re also documented on the W3C site.—Odysseus 1 4 7  9  18:59, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-24
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Recent changes
 * Wikimedia wikis now use AuthManager. If you have new problems related to logging in or being logged in, report them.
 * Visiting Special:Notifications doesn't automatically mark notifications as read anymore. You can go between read, unread or all notifications on Special:Notifications. Notifications on Special:Notifications are grouped by day. You can mark every daily group as read individually. Notifications are displayed by groups of 50 on Special:Notifications and you can find former notifications by using navigation arrows.

Changes this week
 * You can filter user contributions to hide minor edits.
 * It will be easier to edit galleries with the visual editor.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 June. It will be on all wikis from 16 June (calendar).

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Dead links Black Magic (Little Mix song)
Hi, thanks for moving the dead link tags out of the template – sorry for placing them in the wrong position, I wasn't sure where they should go. My worry is that the links don't flag up at all now in normal viewing mode, you have to view the text in editing mode to see them, so there will now be no incentive to fix them. Richard3120 (talk) 13:06, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, I was expecting them to show, thinking it was a normal cite web template that was generating the error message. Looks rather complicated as the URL is generated from the other fields, so if it is dead then one of the completed fields must be wrong or the template needs changing to fix the generated URL, could affect a large number of articles that use the Certification Table Entry template if that is the case. Keith D (talk) 16:30, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Looking further the Irish charts quoted end in 2013 so a 2015 entry in the article is obviously wrong or invented by someone. Keith D (talk) 17:58, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * It isn't invented – the band's record label tweeted that they had received that platinum award, and somebody has therefore added it using the template, not realising that the template no longer works for Ireland (or for the Netherlands or for Sweden – the old websites where they used to be located have stopped publishing certifications). I would like to comment out the template entry for these countries for now and let people enter the awards manually if they can find a reliable alternative source, but I haven't worked out yet where the pointer is in the template or any of its helper templates that provides the link to the certification website for a particular country. Richard3120 (talk) 18:22, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * May be you could contact one of the template maintainers to see if they could help. Keith D (talk) 18:29, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * This is an issue I'm involved with at the moment, and it's the reason I put the dead link tags on in the first place: the editor who originally coded the template has retired from Wikipedia, and the editors who are still active in this topic are not coders... I'm currently trying to get some help from experienced coders because a lot of information in this template is now out of date and urgently needs revising. Richard3120 (talk) 19:09, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-25
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Recent changes
 * Notifications were not always marked as read when you followed a link from an email notification. This will now happen.

Changes this week
 * The list of other languages an article is available in will be shorter on small Wikipedias and non-Wikipedia projects. This is to make it easier to find the most relevant languages for each user. You will still be able to see the other languages.
 * Alerts (the red badge) will not be automatically marked as read when you open the Notifications popup.
 * When you get several thanks you can see them as one notification. This is instead of one notification for each thanks.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 June. It will be on all wikis from 23 June (calendar).

Meetings
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Thanks for the Fix
Thanks for that fix on the date citation on the Bill Backer page. Seriously, I could NOT figure out what the problem was...apparently, I was looking in the wrong place. --PoughkeepsieNative (talk) 23:46, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Gentleman's farm
Please see if new edits are all OK Thanks so much as usual from a Yorkshire enthusiastSrbernadette (talk) 11:30, 25 June 2016 (UTC) Mike
 * ✅ Keith D (talk) 18:18, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Landed property
Please see if new edits are OK Thanks as usual. Srbernadette (talk) 11:28, 25 June 2016 (UTC) Mike


 * ✅ Keith D (talk) 18:19, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much 101.182.117.21 (talk) 13:01, 25 June 2016 (UTC) Mike

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge
I see that ref number 3 on this page does not have the journlist's name in it. His name is Christopher Wilson. can you please put it in the ref. and please leave the quote in ? Thanks again so much  101.182.117.21 (talk) 13:01, 25 June 2016 (UTC) Mike
 * ✅ Keith D (talk) 18:21, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-26
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Recent changes
 * The ORES service has now moved to a new location. This should make it easier to use ORES. The ORES review service is now available as a beta feature on Wikidata and Persian Wikipedia. ORES is an artificial intelligence system for Wikimedia wikis to help editors.
 * The order of wikis in collapsed cross-wiki notifications was different than when the list was expanded. This is now fixed.
 * A new category for tracking pages with math errors was added:    :.

Problems
 * The Wikimedia Etherpad crashed on June 23. Some edits done that day have been lost. They can be found at etherpad-restore.wikimedia.org for another few days.

Changes this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 June. It will be on all wikis from 30 June (calendar).
 * The way to mark notifications as read or unread will be changed to be more clear.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 28 June at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * The Collaboration team at the Wikimedia Foundation will look at developing better tools for edit review. This is because research suggests we scare away newcomers who want to help.
 * An e-mail from the Editing Department explains the technical work that is planned and being researched for the future. Items include better wikitext and visual editing, prompts for edits, language improvements, annotations, and meta-data separation.
 * The sorting of Notifications into the two fly-out menus is going to change on July 5 to 7. Bundled notifications should be easier to explore and mark as read individually.
 * Octicons-tools.svg From 29 June git.wikimedia.org (running Gitblit) will redirect all requests to Phabricator. The vast majority of requests should be correctly redirected.
 * Catalan and Polish Wikipedias will have Wikidata descriptions added to articles in the mobile view by default. This is currently a beta option for the mobile versions. This might come to other wikis later.

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Lupton family
Please tweak - I have added a new ref with quote. Please leave in quote. Then I have almost finished the Yorkshire stuff! Thanks so much Keith101.182.117.21 (talk) 10:58, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

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