User talk:Keith D/Archive 62

Edits at Alfred Hitchcock
Thanks for your edits on Hitchcock. The article has been somewhat languishing for over 2 months at my GAN nomination for it, and the nomination category as a whole has had no activity for this time period at all. I think the length of the biography for him is slowing down finding a reviewer. Since the article looks fairly good, it occurred to me that nominating it at FAC might get things into motion since they are more amenable to longer articles. The instruction at FAC, however, recommend that editors without a peer review under their belt like me should try doing a joint nomination. If you might have any interest in this article, then with your 5 peer reviewed articles maybe you could team with me for a joint FA nom for Sir Alfred? ManKnowsInfinity (talk) 14:41, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I mostly do small improvements to articles, rather than major changes, but if you feel that you can cover off any major comments by the reviewers then I am happy to help with the nomination. Though I will be without internet access from tomorrow until 12 November as no BT connection in Hull. Keith D (talk) 19:33, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. If its my taking up the larger edits on the article and your taking up the shorter edits then I think it should go well. My own thinking was to start the assessment for this about 2 weeks from now on Nov 14 or Nov 15, whichever sounds better for you. In the meantime, I usually believe in double-checking things and if you have time to double check the photos and images, then I'll give the main body of the article another read through from top to bottom. Let me know if the Nov 14 or Nov 15 dates sound reasonable to start things moving on the assessment. ManKnowsInfinity (talk) 20:24, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I would go for 15 Nov to give another day to catch-up on watchlist though the new limit on the entries means you miss lots of changes.
 * Let's go with the 15th of November. ManKnowsInfinity (talk) 15:00, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * A quick look at the images and File:Number 13.jpg has no author information which may be a problem for the nit-pickers.
 * I'll examine this image today further. If the history and description is not good I might try to see what the article looks like after its deleted. This is the image here: . Since the image is before 1947, then it should be public domain in UK with or without the author stated as source. Your call if you would like to retain it. ManKnowsInfinity (talk) 15:00, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I would keep it but I suspect that in an FA review that this will be picked up as a problem that needs fixing. Keith D (talk) 23:59, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I would suggest converting the rest of the short references to use harv-linkage as one of the references uses that format already. Keith D (talk) 20:55, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * If I recall, all of the references were formatted. Do you mean converting all of them even if formatted? Otherwise, those were nice edits by you on the article over night and on the references you looked at. Later today, I'll try to do a second go-through on the citation again. ManKnowsInfinity (talk) 15:00, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * No I was suggesting converting the plain entries like "Leitch, 2002, p. 115" to the linked versions as per "Truffaut 1984, p. 153" for consistency. Keith D (talk) 23:59, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Found it. That should be all the Leitch references in Harvard now. I noticed over the week-end that someone has added another image to the N by NW section which might mean some image bunching there if you could take a look. Otherwise, its November 15th and if you think the article is ready to green light for the joint nomination process then possibly you could start it tonight. ManKnowsInfinity (talk) 16:31, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

I have spotted a funny on the Spoto reference, ref 31 & 34, these uses a date range while the entry in the "Further reading" section has a specific date. Would be worth checking out, if you have access, to see if it should be just a specific date and if the page numbers are for 1992 edition. Keith D (talk) 17:16, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
 * FA nomination seems to be on hold until the current reviewer finishes. I plan to be away from my computer for a long week-end likely until Monday and was wondering if you could keep an eye on the Hitchcock GA review until then. No 'main review' from that reviewer yet but who knows when it will be ready. Cheers. ManKnowsInfinity (talk) 15:17, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, I should be around for the weekend and I will keep an eye out to see if they respond to anything. I expect further comments on the referencing as that was their main problem reported that we have not really covered off. I think we have done the flow and dealt with the tags from their initial comments OK. Keith D (talk) 17:20, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
 * No update on the review page and I have left an inquiry about the hold there. After checking the instructions for peer review, there is no apparent restriction that a GA must go before an FA nomination, and if its preferable then the article could go straight for FA review. Previously I mentioned choosing a mentor at random from the Adopter list, such as this editor here if you might ask him to see if he is agreeable. Possibly there is a real world obligation that the current GA review editor is dealing with which has put things on a hold for over 10 days. ManKnowsInfinity (talk) 15:51, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, nice to know you are back after break, may be an idea to remind the reviewer on their talk page as they appear to have forgotten the review, yet have been editing today. Keith D (talk) 16:46, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 * An experienced FA editor has listed some review comments for Hitchcock on my Talk page which you might be able to help with. Indy looks he might take up the FA mentor for the article if his preparatory edits are addressed. What do you think? ManKnowsInfinity (talk) 15:27, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * May be we could ask them if they are willing to act as a mentor, though they are not on the list. Would be a good idea to clear-up their comments before nominating or we may get swamped with comments from different editors. Keith D (talk) 18:28, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Useful edit by you to list it on FAC Talk for the mentor. It appears unanimous that the editors there would like to see it go to a peer review page. Does one of those editors start that page, or is it up to you, or should we wait another day? I am leaving for the day and will check on things in the morning. ManKnowsInfinity (talk) 20:41, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Probably should be one of us rather than someone else. I have not had much success at peer reviews in the past as failed to get many comments. Though it is getting near to Christmas for me, will be without internet connection from Thursday until my return in the New Year. Keith D (talk) 20:49, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the update regarding your holiday plans. It occurs to me that another option in this case might be to invite Indy as a joint nominator since a successful attempt here would put him over the 5-article requirement for mentor status (he is currently at 4) while effectively providing all the "mentor" benefits of his 4 successful FA nominations. Otherwise, the peer review page might be the only option left prior to your holiday schedule start which you mention as starting this Thursday. Either option sounds fine and it would be nice to start things moving forward prior to your Thursday start of holiday schedule. ManKnowsInfinity (talk) 16:09, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I was thinking of starting a peer review, but with the break I was wondering if you could handle this in my absence especially if there is a lot of interest as appears to be generated by the mentor request. I will set-up if you are happy with this. Keith D (talk) 17:21, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
 * That should work, and you can do the set-up and start it whenever you are ready. I should be around to check up on it during the holiday week until your return. Holiday wishes in the meantime. ManKnowsInfinity (talk) 17:48, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
 * OK I have initiated the peer review, sit back and see what responses we get. Probably best to start a new thread here as getting rather indented. Keith D (talk) 18:49, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

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Mitch Mitchell
I was puzzled by your comment re FindMyPast, but 1946 is indeed the correct birth year not 1947.

See here

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/57073641_mitch-mitchell-hendrix-era-passport

A passport which was auctioned just this moth, also confirms the correct birth year. That, along with the birth record and the employment form makes it quite clear! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.97.205.123 (talk) 18:30, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I was just trying to point out that the birth was registered in 1946 and not 1947. Keith D (talk) 23:54, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

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Ackworth
Hi Keith. Just trying to cite an unreferenced section in Ackworth and the Notable people section has really small text (compared to the rest of the article) which carries on through the Ref section and into the External links. It was like that before I got there, I promise! There is a table above and I tried re-formatting that, but it seems nothing I am doing is correcting it. Any ideas? Thanks and regards. The joy of all things (talk) 20:16, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I have removed the 95% size from the table, I think that fixes the problem. The  tag was unclosed. Keith D (talk) 20:24, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * As ever, thanks very much; it was about the one thing I didn't try and I should have seen it! Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 20:35, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Lillian Bilocca edit
Thanks for rescuing my incompetent referencing. I'll try to learn to do better next time! MacAuslan (talk) 18:05, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Albert Kitson, 2nd Baron Airedale
Thanks again - can you check please new refs. I added a file of old Gledhow Hall photo. Please put the little dots under the letter "c" (for circa)  which is in the photo. Thanks from T. 101.189.107.58 (talk) 06:13, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

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Albert Kitson, 2nd Baron Airedale
Please check this page again. - SORRY I would like to have the black and white photo of Gledhow Hall - what do you think? - SOME STRANGE EDITORS OUT THERE!!. also - please check this page - Meghan Markle  ok? And also please John Hussey, 1st Baron Hussey of Sleaford. Thanks as always T — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.216.210.155 (talk) 04:41, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Done. May I suggest that you avoid The Daily Mail & Daily Express for references as they are not considered reliable. No views on the image suggest you bring-up on the article talk page. Keith D (talk) 21:10, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Stainforth, South Yorkshire
Hi Keith,

I see you reverted my deletion of the passage about Stainforth Underbargh and Sir Edward Darcy from Stainforth, South Yorkshire's Wiki page.

I removed this from Stainforth, South Yorkshire's page because as a Town Councillor for Stainforth Town Council I believe it is not about my Stainforth, but the other Stainforth in the Yorkshire Dales, North Yorkshire.

The Stainforth Underbargh that the passage refers to, along with Knight Stainforth joined to make the modern day Stainforth, North Yorkshire. Sir Edward Darcy was the third son of Sir Arthur Darcy who owned Stainforth Underbargh during Henry VIII's time. The lands and village passed to Sir Edward in 1579.

This can be seen and is sourced in the Stepping Stones Through History section of Stainforth (North Yorkshire's) website: http://www.stainforth.info/stepping_stones_through_history.htm

the actual page that proves my case is here: http://www.stainforth.info/Stainforth_PDF/06%20Stepping%20Stones%20-%20sale%20of%20manorial%20rights.pdf

I hope you can see that this is a frustrating confusion caused by the two villages sharing a common name and trust that the erroneous passage can be removed from Stainforth, South Yorkshire's page.

Best regards

P Bedford Stainforth Town Council South Yorkshire — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pabford (talk • contribs) 14:50, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know about this. If you had made an edit summary entry with a note about it being the wrong place then I would have looked further, rather than just reverting your edit. Keith D (talk) 18:58, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

John Hussey, 1st Baron Hussey of Sleaford
Hi Keith - a new   edit  (number 17)  has been done - is this OK? Please check if you can. Thanks T. 203.132.68.1 (talk) 01:58, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

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West Ruislip station
Hi, Keith. On the West Ruislip station article, there is an artefact that looks like this '|-'. It is located in the Services heading between the text and the preceding/following stations box and no matter what, when in edit source, I cannot see where it is to delete it (and it does not seem to appear in visual editing either). Any help, please? Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 21:50, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Looks like the problem is being on the end of a line rather than a new line by itself. Keith D (talk) 22:22, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Amazing, thanks Keith; I would have never have seen that as I was looking for the actual characters themselves rather than an effect of mark-up elsewhere. Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 22:45, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Re 96.31.10.178.
As you may have just noticed, is spamming editors' talk pages with a warning message I left him—including my signature. Given his other recent edits, like this, I think it's beyond clear that he's here to cause disruption, likely while block evading from an account—see this unblock request and this comment. Would you mind doing the honors? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rebbing (talk • contribs) 01:03, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I have blocked indefinitely as being an apparent sock & imitating another use. Keith D (talk) 01:20, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Edit on Benjamin Law (artist) - ref question
Hi Keith,

Thanks for editing the reference in Benjamin Law (artist) page.

I viewed the hardcopy of the journal for Mackay's article last night. The actual journal itself lists the months as April/May (with a slash). Even though that's as it was published, is the dash used as preference in referencing style? Or is it better to leave the / as that's faithful to the original? Thank you!SunnyBoi (talk) 03:57, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, the slash gives a cite date error as it is not one of the styles we use for dates. The way to present this type of date is to join the months with an en-dash. You can see the acceptable styles for dates in MOS:DATES. Keith D (talk) 11:20, 6 December 2017 (

Philip Wentworth
Another Yorkshire page for you to please check if you can. Thanks again T.

also

Christopher Hussey (died 1686)
if you can find the time. Thanks - T.

also

John Hussey, 1st Baron Hussey of Sleaford
Thank you - T.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.216.210.155 (talk) 22:54, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Philip Wentworth
Should - in the family section - the term queen of England  have a link on it? Thanks T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.160.40 (talk) 00:07, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Probably it should. Keith D (talk) 00:35, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

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