User talk:Kekmon

Need new username
I have managed to unintentionally provoke a lot of people leading them to bizarre conclusions about editing intentions with my username, which is apparently associated with fringe right (despite username predating Kek thing), so I obviously need a new username. Change it to Pyypivos, please. Kekmon (talk) 19:49, 24 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Please make use of Special:GlobalRenameRequest to request a change of username. The people requesting to help requests by and large won't have the advanced permissions required to change your username themselves. Huon (talk) 20:06, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

February 2018
I happened to notice this case (I read ANI when I should be sleeping), and I thought I'd try to help out. I think there might be some language and cultural differences that make Kekmon's actions seem worse than they were, at least in terms of wiki culture. (He seems to be Finnish as am I.) Yes he edit warred and wrote a personal attack, those are bad things. However I don't see the kind of POV pushing that was said in the ANI discussion. English Wikipedia seems to have quite strict rules about not mentioning people's Jewish background without context, but that doesn't mean that someone who tries to add such info is in any way targeting people of Jewish descent in a malicious way. I also don't see the SPLC case as POV pushing, he just didn't think the source was good for the statement. Maybe he's wrong but that doesn't make him a racist. As for his username, I thought maybe it had something to do with Kekkonen. And taking a Wikipedia editor award without reading the "rules", well, he saw it and like it, that's also not malicious. But now you're not helping your case, Kekmon, by posting those messages. -kyykaarme (talk) 23:59, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, let's see... Personal attacks (there's more on this page I didn't include at ANI, in the unblock requests), edit warring, arguments of such a low quality of logic that they reflect poorly upon the editor, out-and-out lying, attempting to cover up their lies, attempting to alter other editor's reports at 3RRN (I didn't mention that at ANI, but see here), claiming to be more experienced than they actually are, making WP:NOTTHEM unblock requests and having a username associated with antisemitic trolls. You may have doubts about this editor's bad faith and that's perfectly understandable (I know in some Scandinavian languages, "kek" is the equivalent of "lol" in English), but I suspect you will be in the vast minority. Having edited in controversial subjects for several years now, this editor reminds me far more of many other new editors who were quickly indeffed for being disruptive than with those who have had difficulties at first, but overcame them to become a good editor. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants   Tell me all about it.  00:25, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
 * You are still twisting the facts, not to mention none of you still haven't explained what is the problem with my 2½ year old user name... considering it precedes first source of Kek in that wikipage BY A YEAR. Explain that. You have decided it. Just as you have just now decided that I had arguments of poor quality. Looks like I need other ways to put my case forth. I'm looking forward to seeing three moderators lose their status. Kekmon (talk) 08:36, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
 * You know that an admin will block your access to this page if they see your rant above and look into it, right? You were blocked per WP:NOTHERE, and that's in your block log as well as at ANI. Lying about stuff we can easily check is one of the worst things you can do to your reputation on this site.
 * If you truly want to be able to edit WP, my advice would be: remove the rant and your unblock request below. use the help template to request a change in username. Then just sit and wait for about a month. Then make another unblock request in which you promise not to edit war, to cooperate with other editors and to try to remain neutral. Say that you understood what you've done wrong, and you won't do it again, even if you don't believe it. Wikipedia does not care about fairness. We only care about results. An admin will unblock you if they think that will produce the best results (adding a new, valuable editor to the pool). They will ignore you, no matter how unfairly you've been treated, if they think that ignoring you will produce the best result. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants   Tell me all about it.  14:05, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Kekmon, you should take the advice given to you above. This is not the Finnish Wikipedia where pretty much the only users who are indefinitely blocked are vandals. Admins here have bigger problems than dealing with your case and as mentioned, you might even lose access to this page and then it'll be even harder to get the block lifted. And please don't talk about admins losing their status, it's not going to happen and it only hurts your case. -kyykaarme (talk) 14:32, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll try your advice. You or someone else needs to explain in very concrete terms why expanding bios to mention someone is Jew is punishable and leads to horrible conclusions of editor and even counts as "point of view pushing" where I see it as no different to mentioning default desktop of operating system. English is my third language. It seems like I have stumbled on something very dark and ugly in American psyche here that I don't understand. Same with accepting that yeah half sentence isn't good sourcing, while on the other case similar half sentence qualifies as article leader statement. It's hard to understand I did something wrong if I don't understand what it was. Kekmon (talk) 18:21, 24 February 2018 (UTC)