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Football notability standards
Hello Kelsie. I noticed you've created a few articles related to FC Barcelona Femení that fail our notability guidelines related to football (WP:NFOOTY). For players or managers, they should have played or managed in a fully-professional league (see a list maintained at WP:FPL). As the Primera División (women) is not fully-professional, playing or managing in it does not grant the subjects notability. However, many Barcelona players will be notable by virtue of having won international caps, which does grant notability. The notability of 2018–19 FC Barcelona Femení season is also questionable, as the WP:NSEASONS guideline is generally interpreted to mean fully-professional in the context of football.

I'd advise concentrating on articles on players/managers that do pass the notability guideline, as otherwise your work is likely to be in vain (as articles will almost certainly be deleted). Cheers, Number   5  7  15:35, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * PS, don't be too disheartened by having a couple of articles deleted – it's all part of the learning process. I have had many of my articles deleted – quite often by myself once I realised the subject was not noteworthy after all. Number   5  7  16:03, 7 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads up, I appreciate it. I do have a question though- would this also apply to any player that's only ever played in the Primera División (women), or do they have to make a notable contribution to sport elsewhere? For example, Clàudia Pina has an article, but she's a Barcelona youth player that's only played sparingly for their senior team. The reason I assume that stays up is because she has successes outside of the Spanish league (being pivotal in Spain winning the U17 Women's World Cup and being runner-up in U17 Women's Euro, for example, although afaik U17 youth tournaments aren't considered professional.) Also, could I keep the source code for the articles and reinstate it at a later time once they do make a contribution considered notable (provided I add that information) and/or if the league becomes professional? Thanks. Kelsiesmith7 (talk) 05:35, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The guideline requires players to have played for a senior international team or a club in a fully-professional league. Playing in youth tournaments like the U17 World Cup wouldn't not be sufficient for notability purposes. There are a small number of exceptions, where players have received significant media coverage in independent sources. However, my personal view is that if you're famous for being a footballer, but haven't actually ever played professionally or internationally, I would question whether there is really any enduring notability. Many young players are hyped up in the press (especially in the Premier League) but never make it.
 * With regards to the source code, I will happily undelete any articles for you on request if the player passes the notability threshold through international or league appearances (the code remains accessible for admins). Cheers, Number   5  7  12:33, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

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DYK for Vicky López
RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 25 April 2024 (UTC)