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Bad Girls Club (season 16)
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 * nyuszika7h Actually I haven't ignored it because I've stated in some of my summaries that I have copied information from other pages, as per it says at minimum to do so. I have completely blanked when copying the episodes so I fully acknowledge that and I'll be sure to remember to state copied on those in future. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Kelege (talk) 12:09, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * You need to state the exact page name you copied to and from in the edit summaries, e.g. "Content WP:SPLIT to Bar" and "Content WP:SPLIT from Foo". (and ideally also add the Copied template on the talk pages, though that's not necessary). nyuszika7h (talk) 12:13, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Cheers for letting me know the procedure, I'll be sure to do that in my future edits. Kelege (talk) 12:17, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey, nyuszika7h, I've given credit in regards to the pages The Real Housewives of New York City (season 5) and (season 6) from the episodes page and I was just hoping if you could check if I did it correctly. Please and thanks in advance. Kelege (talk) 16:39, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me, you accidentally wrote season 5 in the copied template instead of season 6, but the diff was working anyway because the title is just an informational part and revision IDs are unique. I fixed it, anyway. nyuszika7h (talk) 16:53, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh haha my bad, thanks again for all your help! Kelege (talk) 16:55, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

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Tyler perrys house of paynes
Excuse, kelege, could hoy fix the table for Tyler perrys house of paynes, the table has China Anne McClain as a cast member, throughout the whole series, but she left the show after season 4 and returned and season 6, she wasnt in the 5th season, my computers broke, so im using a phone at the moment, and i cant edit the table right Zhyboo (talk) 03:06, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Done! Kelege (talk) 05:24, 22 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks, so much!!! I was praying u would respond Zhyboo (talk) 19:50, 22 September 2016 (UTC)


 * That's okay! If there's anything else just let me know! Kelege (talk) 04:58, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

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Why did you put the ",000" suffix back for Finding Prince Charming? It's not in the source, is not done that way on any other table and is completely not needed. It would be cleaner to use a "k" suffix or a "0." prefix with millions in the header or "0.###M" if you don't like thousands. 119.224.39.131 (talk) 23:34, 26 September 2016 (UTC) Initially I had it to millions and had no "000", and just had it as "0.123". Address it with those who want it to thousands because my history on Wiki is it's either millions or just the total, which includes the (000). Also I'd suggest you make an account if you want to talk to people, it makes it easier for others to talk to you back and remember who you are. Kelege (talk) 04:08, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

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Love and hip hop atlanta
Kelege, an anonymous user vandalized both the main and supporting tables for each cast member, and removed some of the cast members names, could you revert it back??? Zhyboo (talk) 19:39, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Meet the browns tv series
Could you add a character table for the meet the browns tv series, I can't I need a new computer and I use a phone, thanks if u can! Zhyboo (talk) 01:12, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I've never watched the series so I'm not too familiar with who is a main charter and when, as well as recurring and guest appearances. Kelege (talk) 02:16, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

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The real housewives of new jersey
Hay kelege, dont you think that Nicole should be listed under Amber on the table of cast members, because they are credited together (side-by-side) in the opening credits, because they're twins Zhyboo (talk) 20:56, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Oops, i mean under Teresa!!!!!! Zhyboo (talk) 20:58, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Nope. They way they're listed in the opening is due to artistic/editing reasons rather than billing, hence why The Real Housewives goes by alphabetical order as it's the most logical thing following billing. We can't determine the billing order with the franchise as the opening is forever changing. Although they're credited together, they are still two separate women with separate surnames and were featured separately throughout the season with different story-lines revolving their relationships etc. Also they have their own individual pages on Bravo (http://www.bravotv.com/people/teresa-aprea & http://www.bravotv.com/people/nicole-napolitano) and are featured as separate people rather than a duo, which leads to being treated as a duo in the opening more so a creative concept than a billing/credited one. Kelege (talk) 23:55, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

The real housewives
Hey kelege could you add notes in the list of episodes for the housewives shows. I just would like for you to note down when their added to the opening credits, when they first appear, when they don't appear, when they guest star and even when the "friends" first appear, I would like you to start with new york city, New jersey and atlanta first, I haven't really watched the others yet, and I don't have time to go through episodes right now, because I don't have hulu to go through all of them or a computer to edit with, so I'll need someone else to do it. Just like with love and hip hop, where they also add the notes Zhyboo (talk) 22:37, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Usually in the synopsis of the corresponding season it is mentioned. For example The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (season 6), it states when Girardi and Edwards made their debut that season. On The Real Housewives of New York City (season 3) it is stated in cast about Sonja Morgan making her debut as well. Just as when a housewives departs the series half way through it is also stated, for example see The Real Housewives of Atlanta (season 5) in regards to Zolciak. I don't think notes are all that necessary when it is explained in the article pertaining to their individual season. Kelege (talk) 22:46, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

But what's so confusing is that Sonja isn't featured at all in any of the season 3 casting photo and some people don't really noticed her as being credited as a main cast member in the opening credits Zhyboo (talk) 22:59, 8 October 2016 (UTC)


 * She and Jennifer Gilbert did actually have cast photos taken, but they weren't grouped with the other ladies, similar to how the "friends" are done now. I found them online when doing the article for the season. It's similar to Quinn Fry in season 3 and Lynne Curtin in season 4, on Orange County. It was just they way they did things back then, however it is stated on the main page of their series as well as the corresponding seasons. Also mentioned on the List of The Real Housewives cast members that they made their debut following the premiere of the season. Kelege (talk) 23:13, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Wow, thanks I didn't even know that!! Zhyboo (talk) 23:38, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem! Kelege (talk) 23:39, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

One more thing, can you tell me where I can find sonjas season 3 photo? Zhyboo (talk) 04:46, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
 * The close-up is http://www.realitytea.com/2010/02/24/new-photos-more-preview-of-the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city-season-3/ Full photo - http://www.gettyimages.ae/detail/news-photo/season-3-pictured-sonja-morgan-news-photo/138225943#season-3-pictured-sonja-morgan-picture-id138225943 Kelege (talk) 04:59, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Could you show me Jennifers photo? Zhyboo (talk) 05:20, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
 * http://img.poptower.com/pic-19642/jennifer-gilbert-real-housewives-new-york-city.jpg?d=600 & http://www.realitytea.com/2010/02/24/new-photos-more-preview-of-the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city-season-3/ Kelege (talk) 05:23, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Oops, nevermind i found it, thanks for helping, keep sticking around youre really nice and helpful. Thanks!!!!! 😀😃😘💕 Zhyboo (talk) 05:25, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem, always happy to help. Kelege (talk) 05:26, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Hey kelege, i noticed kim zociack wasnt in the season 5 casting photo for The real housewives of atlanta, jeana was still featured in the season 5 photo of Orange county, and dina in season 2 of new jersey and all The other housewives who quit in the middle of The season, isn't that strange?? Zhyboo (talk) 03:41, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

??? Zhyboo (talk) 04:22, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Probably because she didn't leave amicability to begin with. Her and Kroy storming off, pushing the cameras etc. Not to mention she had her own spin-off at that point and had photos already taken, and she was pregnant etc. Probably a whole mix of things. She was in the promos though- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-J_8RJbFug So Bravo might have just been spiteful. Kelege (talk) 04:30, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Oh, okay thanks so much! Zhyboo (talk) 04:41, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * No Problem. :) Kelege (talk) 04:55, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

👍😃😘💕💕 Zhyboo (talk) 05:43, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Hey kelege, isn't there a big similarity between a title sequence and opening credits, because they called a title sequence the opening credits too. They also refer to the title sequence as the intro and opening sequence. Zhyboo (talk) 02:48, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh totally, it's opening credits because they credit who is main characters- but it doesn't reflect the starring power/billing rates of said characters and that's the issue. Each season it credits who is main characters but it is forever changing in what particular order. Then at the end of the crediting the cast image doesn't always reflect the crediting as well. Going of the intro would be a lot of speculation and arguably original research. Kelege (talk) 03:17, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Oh, okay thanks a lot!! 😘❤👍 Zhyboo (talk) 03:25, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Hey kelege could you give me show me where i can find season 9 opening credits to The real housewives of atlanta? Zhyboo (talk) 12:54, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Whoops, its not available yet Zhyboo (talk) 13:02, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Kelege, could you add reference to Aviva's absence in the sixth season of the real housewives of new York city in the season 6 article for it? Zhyboo (talk) 17:25, 3 November 2016 (UTC) Are we in a different time zone or something??because this is ridiculous Zhyboo (talk) 23:04, 3 November 2016 (UTC) Omg Zhyboo (talk) 02:30, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Done. Also I'm from Australia, so probably are in different zones. Kelege (talk) 03:44, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Oh, I'm in America, so yeah, but thanks a lot!! 😉👍 Zhyboo (talk) 13:39, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Kelege, could you list of The housewives in order of their original opening credits order, as the rules does state cast members should be listed in original broadcasting credits. Thanks Zhyboo (talk) 14:08, 24 December 2016 (UTC)


 * We could but as it has been discussed previously, cast ordering changes each season so the reflection of the first season is becauase of editing not star power/billing hence why it's always been done alphabetically. With the ever changing intro (a creative decision) it's most logical to feature it alphabetically instead. Kelege (talk) 14:18, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, but we it goes along with the wiki rules, so it guess its definelty a good idea. Zhyboo (talk) 15:03, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
 * As I said, it's been discussed before and it was decided that it didn't follow suit of the purpose of crediting. If you want to create a discussion for it go ahead because something like that would probably require more than just our opinions seeing as it was already discussed. Kelege (talk) 16:00, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I just was adding notes in the lists like with love and hip hop and basketball wives. If the edits are redundant, could you undo them for me? Since I can only make mobile edits at the moment, its kind of very difficult to undo them, as it was already difficult to try adding them. Zhyboo (talk) 03:20, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

In the list of the real housewives cast members, make sure note that Kim Fields was introduced after the season premiere. Zhyboo (talk) 15:26, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

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Love and hip hop
Kelege I need your help, I need you to block the love and hip hop pages from anonymous users, so they want keep adding information repeatedly that's false, please do it for me. Zhyboo (talk) 02:19, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

??? Zhyboo (talk) 22:48, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Whenever you have time, just please respond back, I get worried without any response Zhyboo (talk) 05:16, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't have the ability to do that, you'll have to lodge a request for page protection. :) Kelege (talk) 13:20, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Someone just reported all three pages to be protected, thanks so much, by the way! Zhyboo (talk) 15:58, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Married to medicine
Hello, Kelege I've recently created individual pages for married to medicine and i was wondering could you finish the pages and add a casting photo, please? Let me know, whenever you get a chance. Zhyboo (talk) 19:55, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I've never watched the series, so I haven't got a clue about the show/season/cast. Kelege (talk) 02:11, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Oh, thanks. Zhyboo (talk) 03:06, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Just listen!
I find it really interesting that since you took over changing the Real Housewives pages that only you're changes are correct and everyone else is wrong, because of you everybody including me is destroying the pages with unnecessary changes. You know the saying if it ain't broke don't fix it, the pages are not broke. Lisa Rinna of Beverly Hills was not a guest in season 4 a brief cameo on a red carpet doesn't make her a guest just like Denise Richards in season 5. We need the current main and former main  housewives because it tells people who is and isn't on currently and it will be neat and organized. Stop trying to control everything my goodness. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editman25 (talk • contribs) 12:50, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
 * First of all; the same thing is done for many other wives who have previously appeared, eg: Dolores in RHONJ, Meghan in RHOC, Ana in RHOM and Ddorinda in RHONY. She wouldn't have been featured as a guest if she didn't become full-time, now that she is her prior guest appearance on the series is noted. Secondly; as I stated on the edit I prefer the way the timeline was done but it actually violates the procedure of timelines on Wikipedia; which isn't my opinion it's a majority that enforced it. Plus I didn't initially alter it either, did and I've just enforced the changes made. I resent the fact that you're claiming only my changed are correct, seeing as I don't revert many edit that are in fact constructive and follow the rules.  frequently edits the pages realting to the franchise and I don't undo them, in fact I actually thank him for his posts. Kelege (talk) 13:36, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The best way, always, is to start a discussion if someone disagrees with a certain change, and try not to revert an edit more than once. When it comes to the timeline, per WP:MOSTV, the cast members should be listed in order that they first appeared. We should not focus on who's on the show currently, because the article covers the entire series, not just the most recent season. And about the guest stars, I am not sure because I have not seen all the episodes to confirm their role, and cannot find any guideline about it, but I'd say that if a person appeared on the show very briefly for a second and did not even speak, probably not worth mentioning. In films, for instance, the person would be considered an "extra" and would not be listed in the credits. Mymis (talk) 13:54, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
 * No we don't need current / former divisions. Its obviously by looking at the chart who is still on the show and who is not. Like Mymis said, the article is an OVERVIEW of the ENTIRE series. Stop trying to start an edit war and follow the Wiki rules. Pinchofhope (talk) 21:47, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

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M.I.A.
Kelege, where have you been?! You've been M.I.A. for literraly days!! What's going on?!? Zhyboo (talk) 05:20, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * On holidays. Kelege (talk) 11:37, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Oh, yeah I forgot!. Zhyboo (talk) 13:50, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Still on holidays?? Zhyboo (talk) 05:35, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Where are you?? Zhyboo (talk) 02:44, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Delete, I know it's been forever but you really need to fix the real housewives articles including the list of the real housewives Zhyboo (talk) 00:17, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

I mean kelege not delete, sorry Zhyboo (talk) 00:18, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

RHONJ/RHOC
Hi Kelege! I've added information about the upcoming seasons of RHONJ and RHOC, and have included sources from US Weekly to back up the information. Should all be removed until network confirmation? Vmars22 (talk) 22:32, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

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