User talk:Kellieloder

Hi there,

I'm writing because I have a concern about the Wikipedia page written about me. It continues to hurt my business because there's both dated and inaccurate information and I have no control over it.

For example, the first couple of lines state "Kellie Loder (born 1988) is an independent singer-songwriter from Newfoundland, Canada. She has released two Contemporary Christian music (CCM) albums: The Way in 2009 and Imperfections & Directions in 2010."

Since this, I've had 3 other releases and I'm no longer singing christian music. However, the information above is the first thing people find when people search for my name. When it comes to concert venues and festivals, they've verbally told me they didn't hire me because of the information found on the Wikipedia Page and assumed I was a contemporary christian singer (which wouldn't fit with the events they needed music for). Record executives and booking agents have been reluctant to work with me because the information is just not compatible with my career in the current time period.

Can you please help me with this? Information either needs to be edited and updated (I can send you the edits) or the article just needs to be deleted entirely. To be honest, I'd prefer if it was removed.

Thank you for reading,

Kellieloder (talk) 21:39, 25 February 2019 (UTC)Kellie Loder

Welcome!
Hello, Kellieloder, and welcome to Wikipedia!&#32;Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited was User talk:Walter Görlitz, which appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article.&#32;Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

To reduce the chances of your contributions being undone, you might like to draft your revised article before submission, and then ask me or another editor to proofread it. See our help page on userspace drafts for more details. If the page you created has already been deleted from Wikipedia, but you want to save the content from it to use for that draft, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page.

One rule we do have in connection with conflicts of interest is that accounts used by more than one person will unfortunately be blocked from editing. Wikipedia generally does not allow editors to have usernames which imply that the account belongs to a company or corporation. If you have a username like this, you should request a change of username or create a new account. (A name that identifies the user as an individual within a given organization may be OK.)

In addition, if you receive, or expect to receive, compensation for any contribution you make, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation to comply with our terms of use and our policy on paid editing.

Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
 * The plain and simple conflict of interest guide
 * The five pillars of Wikipedia
 * Contributing to Wikipedia
 * Tutorial
 * How to edit a page and How to develop articles
 * How to create your first article (using the Article Wizard if you wish)
 * Simplified Manual of Style

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place  before the question. Again, welcome! Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:05, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi Walter,

Is there a way to have this article removed entirely? I do not want this article to represent my business, brand, or name.

Thank you,

Kellieloder (talk) 20:39, 26 February 2019 (UTC)Kellie Loder

Kellie Loder
Updated. Hope that helps. I apologize for butting in, but I thought you might benefit from a helping hand. Cheers. {:>{)> 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 22:38, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

I don't know what to do anymore Walter.
Hi Walter,

Is there a way to have this article removed entirely? I do not want this article to represent my business, brand, or name. I feel like this request is not unreasonable.

Thank you,

Kellieloder (talk) 03:45, 7 March 2019 (UTC)Kellie Loder
 * Sorry Kellie, I'm not the problem. You are removing sourced information about yourself because it doesn't fit your current image.
 * As for deleting the article, WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO are the ground for which we expect articles about musicians to be judged on whether they should or should not exist. If you can convince a group of members that you do not meet any of those criteria, we could delete the article. See WP:AFD for the steps on how to make that happen. It's unlikely to happen though as the article is well-sourced. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:24, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

March 2019
This account has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia because the username, Kellieloder, matches the name of a well-known, living person.

If you are the person represented by this username, please note that the practice of blocking such usernames is to protect you from being impersonated, not to discourage you from editing Wikipedia. You may choose to edit under a new username (see information below), but keep in mind that you are welcome to continue to edit under this username. If you choose to do so, we ask the following:
 * Please be willing and able to prove your identity to Wikipedia.
 * Please send an email to info-en[[Image:At sign.svg|15px|@]]wikimedia.org. Be aware that the volunteer response team that handles email is indeed operated entirely by volunteers, and the reply may not be immediate.

If you are not the person represented by this username, you are welcome to choose a new username (see below).

A username should not be promotional, related to a "real-world" group or organization, misleading, offensive, or disruptive. Also, usernames may not end in the word "bot" unless the account is an approved bot account.

You are encouraged to choose a new account name that meets our policy guidelines and create the account yourself. Alternatively, if you have already made edits and you wish to keep your existing contributions under a new name, then you may request a change in username by:
 * Adding below. You should be able to do this even though you are blocked, as you can usually still edit your own talk page. If not, you may wish to contact the blocking administrator by clicking on "Email this user" on their talk page.
 * At an administrator's discretion, you may be unblocked for 24 hours to file a request.
 * Please note that you may only request a name that is not already in use, so please check here for a listing of already taken names. The account is created upon acceptance, thus do not try to create the new account before making the request for a name change. For more information, please see Changing username.

If you think that you were blocked in error, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   17:35, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Kellie Loder Wikipedia Page - Needs Editing
I understand what you are saying. However, I am no longer a contemporary christian singer/songwriter and I'm tired of it being the first thing people see when they read this article. It doesn't represent what I'm doing in my career and is misleading to performance bookers and people in the industry. I'm fine with the fact that being a contemporary christian artist could be in the history section of this article, but I'm so far removed from this that, it should no longer be in the opening paragraph or at the forefront. It's a misrepresentation and is hurting my business daily. Likewise, the photo is from when I used to play free shows at coffeeshops. Some of the information is even inaccurately sourced. For instance, I've NEVER released an album titled "Monster". What can we do to fix this?

Thank you

Kellieloder (talk) 17:41, 12 March 2019 (UTC)Kellie
 * And Dylan doesn't still have the same style as when he recorded The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan, but we don't delete that part of his article. The article should discuss your entire career, not just try to represent what you're doing now. I'm sorry it's hurting your livelihood. I will think if there's a way to restructure the article to reflect the change without misrepresenting the scope of your career.
 * I recognize that Monster was the name of the album at the time of the pre-release, but that's what the source states. A new source for the actual album title would be the best option.
 * There is nothing preventing you from creating another account that does not use your name, but be aware that WP:COI still applies and WP:SPAs are easy to spot. If the new account is solely concerned with removing sourced content because it hurts your business, it will likely be blocked as well. Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:00, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

It's fine if its sourced, but...
It would just be nice if it weren't in the first paragraph that people read. Not to mention, there's no mention of my most recent album in that paragraph. It would be different if the contemporary christian content was in "Early Life" or "History". Do you know what I'm saying?

Thanks,

Kellieloder (talk) 18:10, 21 March 2019 (UTC)Kellie