User talk:Kellimetal666

Copyright problems
I've removed your lengthy addition of the Dan Slessor history of Metal Blade Records at that article. The history was apparently taken verbatim from Metal Blade's website. Notice that the page from which it was taken has a copyright notice at the bottom.

A verbatim quote of that length is a fairly clear violation of WP's copyright policy (and, for that matter, of copyright laws). To find out more about it, I'd encourage you to study WP:COPY and the pages linked therefrom. Ammodramus (talk) 02:13, 4 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Response: I actually work for Metal Blade Records and I am the one that hired out Dan Slessor to write our new company history, which is why I added it to our page. It is our material that we own so we should be able to add it to our wiki page. If it is a major issue to have our own text on our page I will just tweak it a little then re-add. Thank you.


 * Thanks for the reply. You might want to look at the material on copyright anyhow.  As I understand it, material on Wikipedia pages can be freely used by anyone else, for any purpose at all, commercial or otherwise.  For that reason, I think that we need some kind of statement from Metal Blade granting free use of the copyighted material.  I'm afraid I'm not really competent to say much about the issue, though&mdash;if you look through the link that I provided in my first comment, that'll probably tell you more about it.  I think that there's a noticeboard for copyright questions, too.


 * There's another problem with quoting the Slessor history in the WP article. One of the core principles of WP is neutral point of view, and one of the specific aspects of it is WP:NOTPROMOTION.  The Slessor piece is emphatically not neutral or encyclopedic in its tone: it's clearly written to present Metal Blade in a good light, and Brian Slagel as a really swell guy.  Phrases like "powerful, innovative, and often genre-defining music" or "genuine love and devotion to metal" are all very well on MB's own website, but they shouldn't be in an encyclopedia article that strives to present facts without editorializing.  A brief quote (and let me emphasize that "brief") giving Slagel's philosophy wouldn't be out of order, but seven paragraphs of praise is.


 * As an employee of MB, you've probably got access to lots of interesting material on the label's history, and could make great additions to the article. However, you also need to watch out for conflict-of-interest situations.  It's hard to write from a neutral point of view about something in which you've got a strong financial or emotional interest.


 * Good luck with your edits on the article. -- Ammodramus (talk) 00:14, 5 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Quick P.S. -- It's good WP practice to sign your edits on talk pages like this one. If you type four tildes (~) at the end of your comment, it'll automatically convert into your signature when you hit the "Save page" button.  Also, if you're in an ongoing discussion on a talk page, it helps to type colons  in front of each paragraph.  Each colon indents the paragraph by a bit; that makes it easier to see who's writing what.  Ammodramus (talk) 00:19, 5 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you for all these tips! And yes it is a little tricky trying to keep it neutral when coming from the label, especially from the gal that is used to writing press releases. I will work on my text and try to make it much more neutral to keep things cool in the world of wikipedia. thank you again! I really appreciate it! Kellimetal666 (talk) 00:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)


 * And thanks to you for taking my suggestions in good spirit. There's definitely some learning curve involved here, and it can be hard to figure everything out when you're new at it.  Don't be discouraged&mdash;it'll come quickly enough, once you've got over a few initial rough patches.


 * If you've got questions, or if there's anything I can help you with, please don't hesitate to drop me a line at my talk page. Just click on the "Talk" after my user name ("Ammodramus"), and then edit that page.  The usual practice is to put newer comments at the bottom; and if you're starting a new discussion, give it a section title by putting two equals-signs (=) on either side of it.  If you'd rather discuss things here on your own talk page, that works too; I'll watch your page for a while and see if you add anything to it.  Ammodramus (talk) 01:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)