User talk:KellyF5

Welcome to Wikipedia from the Wikiproject Medicine!


Welcome to Wikipedia from Wikiproject Medicine (also known as WPMED). We're a group of editors who strive to improve the quality of content about health here on Wikipedia, pursuing the mission of Wikipedia to provide the public with articles that present accepted knowledge, created and maintained by a community of editors.

One of our members has noticed that you are interested in editing medical articles; it's great to have a new interested editor on board!

First, some basics about editing Wikipedia, which is a strange place behind the scenes; you may find some of the ways we operate to be surprising. Please take your time and understand how this place works. Here are some useful links, which have information to help editors get the most out of Wikipedia:
 * Everything starts with the mission - the mission of Wikipedia is to provide the public with articles that summarize accepted knowledge, working in a community of editors. (see WP:NOT)
 * We find "accepted knowledge" for biomedical information in sources defined by WP:MEDRS -- we generally use literature reviews published in good journals or statements by major medical or scientific bodies and we generally avoid using research papers, editorials, and popular media as sources for such content. We read MEDRS sources and summarize them, giving the most space and emphasis (what we call WP:WEIGHT) to the most prevalent views found in MEDRS sources.
 * Please see WPMED's "how to" guide for editing content about health
 * More generally please see The five pillars of Wikipedia and please be aware of the "policies and guidelines" that govern what we do here; these have been generated by the community itself over the last fifteen years, and you will need to learn them (which is not too hard, it just takes some time). Documents about Wikipedia - the "back office" -  reside in "Wikipedia space" where document titles are preceded by "Wikipedia:" (often abbreviated "WP:"). WP space is separate from "article space" (also called "mainspace") - the document at WP:CONSENSUS is different from, and serves as a different purpose than, the document at  Consensus.

Every article and page in Wikipedia has an associated talk page, and these pages are essential because we editors use them to collaborate and work out disagreements. (This is your Talk page, associated with your user page.) When you use a Talk page, you should sign your name by typing four tildes ( ~ ) at the end of your comment; the Wikipedia software will automatically convert that into links to your Userpage and this page and will add a datestamp. This is how we know who said what. We also "thread" comments in a way that you will learn with time. Please see the Talk Page Guidelines to learn how to use talk pages.


 * Thanks for coming aboard! We always appreciate a new editor. Feel free to leave us a message at any time on our talk page. If you are interested in joining the project yourself, there is a participant list where you can sign up. You can also just add our talk page to your watchlist and join in discussions that interest you.  Please leave a message on the WPMED talk page if you have any problems, suggestions, would like review of an article, need suggestions for articles to edit, or would like some collaboration when editing!
 * The Wikipedia community includes a wide variety of editors with different interests, skills, and knowledge. We all manage to get along through a lot of discussion that happens under the scenes and through the bold, edit, discuss editing cycle. If you encounter any problems, you can discuss it on an article's talk page or post a message on the WPMED talk page.

Feel free to drop a note below if you have any questions or problems. I wish you all the best here in Wikipedia!

--Jytdog (talk) 05:56, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Paid editing in Wikipdia
Hi KellyF5. I want to thank you again for really taking some time, doing some homework to understand this crazy place, and being mindful of the PAID policy and the COI guideline.

You are ~part~ of the way there but there is another whole leg of the journey to get into how we edit content about health and medicine. I gave you the welcome message above which we created to get people oriented to that space as efficiently as possible.

There is some more of the COI management stuff we should get done, to get you all set, and some further orientation that you should be aware of, in case you are not.

First, we generally look for editors to disclose at the article (you did great there!) as well as on their user page. To finish the disclosure piece, would you please add the disclosure to your user page (which is User:KellyF5 - a redlink, because you haven't written anything there yet). Just something simple like:

I work for the W2O Group, a public relations agency. In my role, I represent healthcare clients. I will list the clients and any articles I work on for them below.
 * Client -- Ovid Therapeutics
 * Article -- Gaboxadol

Something simple like that will do for now. If you want to add anything else there that is relevant to what you want to do in WP feel free to add it, but please don't add anything promotional about Ovid or yourself (see WP:USERPAGE for guidance if you like). There are fancy tags and stuff that you could use to disclose on your userpage as well, but that will get you going. Would you please do that?

So you already have this down, but just to explain it once to make sure -- Wikipedia is a widely-used reference work and managing conflict of interest is essential for ensuring the integrity of Wikipedia and retaining the public's trust in it. As in academia, COI is managed here in two steps - disclosure and a form of peer review. Please note that there is no bar to being part of the Wikipedia community if you want to be involved in articles where you have a conflict of interest; there are just some things we ask you to do (and if you are paid, some things you need to do).


 * disclosure - we have this down now
 * Peer review -- What we ask editors to do who have a COI or who are paid, and want to work on articles where their COI is relevant, is:
 * a) if you want to create an article relevant to a COI you have, create the article as a draft through the WP:AFC process, disclose your COI on the Talk page with the Template:Connected contributor (paid) tag, and then submit the draft article for review (the AfC process sets up a nice big button for you to click when it is ready) so it can be reviewed before it publishes; and
 * b) And if you want to change content in any existing article on a topic where you have a COI, we ask you to
 * (i) disclose at the Talk page of the article with the Template:Connected contributor (paid) tag, putting it at the bottom of the beige box at the top of the page; and
 * (ii) propose content on the Talk page for others to review and implement before it goes live, instead of doing it directly yourself. Just open a new section, put the proposed content there, and just below the header (at the top of the editing window) please the  tag to flag it for other editors to review.  In general it should be relatively short so that it is not too much review at once.  Sometimes editors propose complete rewrites, providing a link to their sandbox for example (Yours is at User:KellyF5/sandbox -- you can get to that at any time by clicking on the link to "Sandbox" that is way up at the top of the page, to the right)  This is OK to do but please be aware that it is lot more for volunteers to process and will probably take longer.

By following those "peer review" processes, editors with a COI can contribute where they have a COI, and the integrity of WP can be protected. We get some great contributions that way, when conflicted editors take the time to understand what kinds of proposals are OK under the content policies. (There are good faith paid editors here, who have signed and follow the Statement on Wikipedia from participating communications firms, and there are "black hat" paid editors here who lie about what they do and really harm Wikipedia).

I encourage you to check out that Statement linked above. Ovid is not a signatory to it. There is another PR person here named User:MaryGaulke whose firm has signed on to that statement. Mary is great, and really understands this place. She might be willing to help you get oriented.

OK that is all for now. Have a read of all that stuff and once you do (especially WP:MEDMOS, WP:MEDRS, and WP:MEDHOW, we can talk about how to improve the Gaboxadol article.

Best regards -- Jytdog (talk) 06:18, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi! Chiming in to say I'd be happy to offer advice/guidance anytime you're interested. Mary Gaulke (talk) 02:02, 19 November 2017 (UTC)