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Nomination of Tulāsana for deletion
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Factual addendum to above template notification: The AfD discussion concerns a total of 58 asana articles. MarB4  •ɯɒɹ• 15:47, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

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Your work on lotus birth has been a years-long campaign of blatant tendentious editing. Many of your edits are overtly non-neutral, and they have transformed the article into a tendentious screed. This is disruptive and has to stop. Since the damage to the article is quite thorough, I am going to reduce it to a brief stub, and will ask members of WikiProject Medicine to help rebuild it. You are welcome to participate in its reconstruction, but if you start engaging in advocacy again while doing so, you will be blocked without further notice. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:18, 26 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Despite my warnings, you have continued your disruptive advocacy editing, this time on the doula article, with these edits, which, besides being overtly argumentative and tendentious, also falsified statements attributed to a source. This is unacceptable. I have therefore blocked you. The block is of undetermined duration and may be lifted if and when you make a credible commitment to this project's goal of neutral coverage and due weight given to mainstream scientific consensus. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:26, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

What is the procedure to have a blocking decision further reviewed and citations actually analyzed? I have attempted to edit boldly and helpfully, and have been rewarded for my contributions in the past. Though one particular administrator has taken offense at the topic, and my editing style( which include many small edits over concentrated periods of time), my ignored my plentiful and diverse citations have been ignored.

In addition, the topic Lotus birth is not a medical category. Birth is a human event, not a disease, and not exclusively a medical event. The topic incorporates anthrolopology, psychology, sociology, and public health as well as evidence-based medical journal citations.

The page is a helpful community education resource in a developing area of inter-disciplinary research and social dialogue. The history for the page involves a battle between editors who view the topic exclusively through the lens of medicine and those who do not.

--KellyPhD (talk) 16:07, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

As I cannot figure out how to email admin Fut Per at Sun, I am posting this request in hopes to bring attention to the above. We may not speak the same languages, but quality of citations and bold neutrality rather than bias is a common goal. I am diligent at removing biased presentation and facilitating full-spectrum inquiry and review.

In addition, the topic Lotus birth is not a medical category. Birth is a human event, not a disease, and not exclusively a medical event. The topic incorporates anthrolopology, psychology, sociology, and public health as well as evidence-based medical journal citations.

The page is a helpful community education resource in a developing area of inter-disciplinary research and social dialogue. The history for the page involves a battle between editors who view the topic exclusively through the lens of medicine and those who do not.--KellyPhD (talk) 16:34, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello! I'd love to get in touch with you to find out how you know so much about Jeannine Parvati - I'm wanting to put together a biography at some point because people need to know all that she's done (I'm her eldest daughter). Feel free to contact me - drloi@drloi.com. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:7876:F89:A531:DCEF:B7A4:FCC (talk) 22:52, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

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How's it going? Do you know if there are nociceptors in the cord or placenta? --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 12:04, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm not following your situation here. You appear to have been blocked for adding health, efficacy and safety claims that are not supported by good sources. If you want to return to editing, and want clarification or help with that, don't hesitate to contact me. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 02:42, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi Anthonyhcole, I am blocked and cannot post on your talk page - but in case you check back and see this, yes I would like to return to editing and would like to restore a good many excellent references and internal links.

To answer your previous question - nociceptors are not an area of my expertise. But it is common knowledge or empirically evidenced to midwives that undrugged babies scream when their cords are cut even within the first 20-45 minutes after birth when the cord has internally clamped with Wharton's Jelly, and western science has no answer for why. However, after that time period, when the cord is very shrunken, they don't appear bothered by any cutting. The Midwifery Model of Care protocol is at least one hour of undisturbed bonding before any cord cutting, and though midwives in the west are just now seeing more clients request lotus births, midwives in Bali consider lotus birth quite normal.

However, the innate natural cord drying process ensures full stem cell transmission the first 20 minutes after birth (Tolosa, J.N., Park, D.H., Eve, D.J., Klasko, S.K., Borlongan, C.V. & Sanberg, P.R. (2010). Mankind’s first natural stem cell transplant. Journal of Cellular and Molecular Medicine, 14:3, p488-495.). Neonatal transitional physiology, like many other things in western science, is a new paradigm for exploration - though it has a longstanding respect in eastern science and traditional midwifery.

As another editor pointed out, in the talk page for lotus birth, birth is a human event primarily, and only a medical event secondarily. It being a human event, it touches on anthropology (birth and culture), pre and perinatal psychology, primatology, and feminist health/informed choice. To, as Future Sunset has done, take lotus birth and give it only a medical view, is not to do it justice. I am a published researcher on the midwifery model of care for birth and postpartum, not the medical model. They are two different models with very different information bases and orientations. However, in terms of the medical model, certain physicians are quite outspoken about the benefits of lotus birth in terms of the elimination of risk of tetanus at the site of the open wound incision (Michel Odent, MD and Sarah Buckley MD). When I research and write on any human development topic, I seek to incorporate an interdisplinary approach - to me, that is humanitarianism.

I would love your help, but being as I am blocked indefinitely due to the reactionary act of FPAS, I am currently unable to post, which seems rather a disservice to informed choice public education resources on the matter. Or in the very least, dictatorial, questionable, and not conducive to the collaborative spirit of Wikipedia. KellyPhD (talk) 00:08, 16 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Cool. I got your email, too. Do you receive email notification when someone leaves a message on your talk page? If not, you can enable that by going to "preferences" (top of this page), "notifications", and ticking "email" next to "Talk page post". It will be a little while before I get back to you - I am unwell at the moment, with a longish to-do list - but I'll post here once I've read through the history and sources for this article.


 * We are pretty strict about the kind of sources that support health claims, especially for safety and efficacy claims. Let's see if there is any more we can say within our guidelines. I'll get back to you. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 03:38, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, appreciate it! I understand about time availability - am only on Wikipiedia sporadically at best :) KellyPhD (talk) 20:12, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

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