User talk:Kelly A. Cheng

Ways to improve Natalie Faye
Hi, I'm Lemongirl942. Kelly A. Cheng, thanks for creating Natalie Faye!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Please add some references from independent sources. Most of the references seem to be from IMDb or the personal website of the article subject.

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse. Lemongirl942 (talk) 08:33, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Conflict of Interest
Hello, Kelly A. Cheng. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the article Natalie Faye, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. In particular, please:


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Please familiarize yourself with relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, sourcing and autobiographies. Thank you. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 07:22, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Template removal
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About your recent article
Hi, I understand that you created the article recently. May I know if you are in any way affiliated to the article subject? In any case, I had to remove parts of the article since it seemed overly promotional, the references could not be verified, or the references are themselves questionable sources (you might wish to read WP:RS). Until these issues are fixed I would request you not to add the content back. If you have any queries, you can let me know. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 07:29, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

@Lemongirl942
No I am not. I have just been following her work since her early days in Mediacorp and the Singapore theatre scene of the early 00s. You seem to be removing several verifiable and legitimate references I have added. For example, I'm not sure why you removed the reference to her most recent media article from an established award-nominated travel blog from the UK. I had another look at it, and it is definitely a legitimate feature interview with mention of Faye's newest project listed on Wikipedia. I've added it back because it is a legitimate source from an independent media outlet. Likewise, her production company's notable dedication to diversity and equal opportunity was covered in an article on Ground Report, which you also removed. Perhaps you removed it because the article also contains links to a promotional trailer for Faye's new comedy series and other promotional content, but I feel that in this case, just because the article contains promotional links at the end does not take away from the legitimate content, which forms the bulk of the feature on Ground Report. That reference also should not be removed. Kelly A. Cheng  03:55, 22 March 2016


 * Hi, thank you for your reply. For an actor to have an article on Wikipedia, please read WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. I am not able to find that she has acted in significant roles in multiple notable films. In addition, there is hardly any independent media coverage about her. You quoted a blog, but blogs are not considered reliable references and are are usually not accepted (see WP:SPS). Ground Report seems to me a citizen journalism website which falls under a similar category. Neither is IMDb considered reliable. The link to Asiaone was a reliable reference though, so I did not remove it. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 08:01, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Natalie Faye for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Natalie Faye is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Natalie Faye until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Lemongirl942 (talk) 07:54, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Articles of Singapore actors
Hi, thank you for your help. I understand that this was your first article and you may not have been aware of the requirements. For Actors, the way to go about is to see if they satisfy WP:GNG or WP:NACTOR. I do agree that many Singapore actors/actresses may not be notable enough to have their own articles. The correct action in such a case is to flag it for deletion.

Before flagging it for deletion, it should be ascertained that the article does meet the notability criteria and that enough references do not exist. (This is different from the fact that references are not present in the article). From your post at the AfD I have a list of articles which may not be notable enough Hayley Woo, Race Wong, Cheryl Chin, Mariam Baharum, Jeszlene Zhou, Michelle Goh, Melvinder Kanth, S. Shamsuddin, Elvin Ng, Baskar Subramanian, Anwar Hadi, Nathan Hartono. I will have a look at them soon.

I understand and totally agree to your point that Wikipedia is inconsistent with respect to articles about Singaporean entertainers. However, this is mostly due to lack of interest from editors. Your article was newly created and hence, I just happened to look at it. Even if an article stays for many years, if it is not notable, it should be deleted. (For example, this article existed for 4 years before someone managed to look at it. I would be glad if you could help me out with finding out such articles. Every action helps to ensure that Wikipedia remains a high quality resource.

Also, please sign your posts by typing 4 tildes (see WP:TILDE). You can also read the indentation guide here WP:THREAD for formatting discussions. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 08:32, 26 March 2016 (UTC)