User talk:Kellyannb

July 2011
Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did to Sherlock Holmes (2009 film). Wikipedia is not a collection of links, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam guideline for further explanations. Because Wikipedia uses the nofollow attribute value, its external links are disregarded by most search engines. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. You have added the same links to other articles. Please stop.

Since all links provided related directly to the content of the wikipedia page and are free for download and cite accurately the sources used within the guides I am struggling with why these would be considered spam. Pop Goes the Classroom is a free initiative that provides teachers with guides on how to use pop culture artifacts such as television series and movies in the classroom. We ask nothing, we charge nothing and we accept content from a variety of sources. Please advise if you would perfer we include the links for the free downloads from the teacherspayteaches site instead. it's about getting the information out not promoting any business. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.17.0.234 (talk) 03:45, 28 July 2011 (UTC)


 * It's clear from your comment that you are affiliated with Pop Goes the Classroom. As such, you have a clear conflict of interest and should not be adding anything related to that website. If you want to propose adding something to a particular article, you can ask whether it would be acceptable on the article's Talk page, making sure that you disclose your conflict. I also frankly see nothing about what you do being helpful to a reader's understanding of the article.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:29, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

"I also frankly see nothing about what you do being helpful to a reader's understanding of the article."

So if I take the themes of the show, its historical and contemporary context and add them as stand alone pieces would that be okay? Would a section on appropriate integrations into the classroom be appropropriate. it wasn't my intention to promote pop goes the classroom. We don't really care about that. it's the information into the hands of the teachers that is important. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.17.0.234 (talk) 00:54, 29 July 2011 (UTC)


 * But what does putting the information into the hands of the teachers have to do with the article? As for your question, are you talking about creating new standalone articles? If so, take a look at WP:FIRST because it doesn't sound like they would be sufficiently notable to justify a standalone article. Certainly, a new section in the article about intergration into the classroom would never work. It has zero relevance to the article.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:15, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Okay, now I'm confused.

Please look at this page on your site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_worlds

Its relation to invasion literature is the historical context of the piece. Why does a section on historical context have a place on this page but a section in Falling Skies which explains its place as a contemporary retelling of War of the Worlds in serialized format that is supported by educational scholars not appropriate. Do we need to get the permission of the TNT marketing department? I can do that if you want me to? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.17.0.234 (talk) 01:37, 29 July 2011 (UTC)


 * TNT Marketing has nothing to do with anything. You don't want to address issues of historical context. You want to relate articles to teachers. I don't see the two as the same at all. By the way, you should really be logging in as Kellyannb rather than editing from an IP address.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:51, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the reminder. I hadn't realized I wasn't logged in until you pointed it out. In the world of integrated studies there is no delineation. If I can get the resource up that gives the teachers the historical and contemporary context for an artifact, and the underlying themes they can do the integration work themselves. These three areas enrich the reader's experience regardless of whether they are educators or not but if they are educators it gives them the tools to integrate the artifact more effectively into their lesson plans.

Example: if you know that Avatar is a science fiction retelling of Dances with Wolves, its enriches the average readers understanding of what Cameron was trying to say about the disrespect of native populations but as a teacher it allows you to use that artifact to introduce westward expansion on a high school us history class. Or if you know that Batman is a contemporary retelling of Hamlet it allows you to approach the tale in a richer context as a reader but as a teacher it gives you a tool for teaching Shakespeare. This isn't about self promotion its about changing the perspective of the fan and the teacher by providing a richer context for the artifact.