User talk:KelseyEngelbracht

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July 2018
Your addition to National Federation of Families for Children's Mental Health has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images&mdash;you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. See Copying text from other sources for more information. Please also read Wikipedia:Neutral point of view and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. ~ Amory  (u • t • c) 17:20, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, KelseyEngelbracht. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the page National Federation of Families for Children's Mental Health, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


 * avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, company, organization or competitors;
 * propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (see the request edit template);
 * disclose your COI when discussing affected articles (see WP:DISCLOSE);
 * avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:SPAM);
 * do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Jmertel23 (talk) 17:38, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

This is new to me and I am learning as I go here. I understand we cannot use the direct language on our website. I am happy to rewrite the articles paying close attention to guidelines you have provided - i.e. more formal, encyclopedic language. I will do my best and am open to any help or direction. We don't have another person who can make the changes needed so I am trying to understand how to appropriately acknowledge my COI as an employee. Can you provide any direction on this? I found this template that I am supposed to use, but I don't really get how or where to do this. Thanks in advance.KelseyEngelbracht (talk) 19:10, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Answered below. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 21:56, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Copyright problem on National Federation of Families for Children's Mental Health
I have once again removed copyright content from the article, material copied from the organization's website. You state you have permission to do this, but there are a couple of problems with your submission. You cannot post copyright material on Wikipedia even if you are the copyright holder, unless special licensing permissions are in place. That is because Wikipedia aims to be freely distributable and copyable by anyone, and all content must have the appropriate documentation in place before that can happen. Please see donating copyrighted materials which explains how it works. Regardless of the copyright issue, material that appears on the corporate website is almost invariably unsuitable for inclusion in our encyclopedia because of the stylistic differences, the flowery prose, and the promotional tone, so would likely not be accepted for publication here even with the proper licensing in place.The second problem is conflict of interest. Writing an article about your own organisation or that of a client is strongly discouraged, as it is difficult to maintain the required neutral point of view. According to our terms of use, paid editors and people editing on behalf of their employer are required to disclose their conflict of interest by posting a notice on their user page or talk page.Please don't re-add the copyright material, or I will block you from editing. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 18:36, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

My apologies for the trouble. I am new to this and learning as I go. I believe this is where I need to disclose my COI and hope I am doing it correctly. I am in fact an employee of the organization and happy to disclose the conflict of interest. Once disclosed, I hope that means I can begin to work on rewrites of our articles that are not duplicative of our website. I understand the need to adjust the language to better fit Wikipedia's regulations. I am appreciate any guidance and your patience.KelseyEngelbracht (talk) 19:25, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I have added the required disclosure to your user page, as required by Wikipedia's terms of use. The template goes on the talk page of the article in question. Someone has already done that step. Please make yourself aware of our rules on conflict of interest already cited here on this page. The best source of information is not the organization's website but information obtained from third-party sources such as newspapers, magazines, or reliable websites. If no such sources can be found, the organization may not be notable enough, as Wikipedia defines it, to qualify for an article.I have removed your most recent addition to the article, because it's almost identical to content at https://www.ffcmh.org/, and hence is a copyright violation. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 22:02, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
 * So, two things to remedy: 1) don't copy and don't only lightly reword; 2) rather than making changes directly to the article, propose those changes at the Talk page of the article and another, non-affiliated editor will decide whether to incorporate into the article or not. Waiting can be frustrating. If there are other editors who have made recent changes to the article (You can see this at View history), you could leave a message on their Talk, asking for action on your proposed changes. David notMD (talk) 16:39, 26 July 2018 (UTC)