User talk:Kelvin Knight

Professor Knight, on the Aristotelian page that you started I added several books that were then deleted without explanation. I have added them back and also some books that I hadn't added but were also deleted. Who do I complain to about deletions without explanations? Pomonomo2003 19:43, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

CASEP/self-promotion
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 * WAREH, I don't know who you are as you are hiding in anonymity. You are making a joke of Wikipedia, I am rushing, but several weeks ago I deleted dead links to bibliographies of MacIntyre's work. I take it that you reinstalled them without bothering to click the links yourself. I suggest that you do so now. Having found that they are dead, and - if you can be bothered - check the link I put in to confirm that the bibliographies there are fully up to date, I would very much hope that you will undo the damage you are doing This is appalling, and you should be ashamed of yourself. Sorry, but that's the way it is. I have been a hearty apostle for Wikipedia, and I'm shocked to myself encounter the kind of behaviour about which I've previously been told, and previously discounted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.72.89.204 (talk) 22:44, 14 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I have let stand your readdition of the bibliography at Martha Nussbaum and appended it to the list of the other two (with working links) at Alasdair MacIntyre. However, I hope you can yourself click on a couple of links above (especially for WP:COI and WP:EL) and realize that (for good reasons I'm sure you can appreciate), drafting and redrafting encyclopedic content by citations to oneself is against Wikipedia policies, as is a campaign to link a website with which you are affiliated.  Self-linking of this kind should be preceded by an effort to get a consensus of independent editors on an article's talk page, to make sure personal interest doesn't trump Wikipedia's ordinary standards, which aspire to neutrality.   When you consider the deletion of references to competing treatments at Aristotelianism (please see Talk:Aristotelianism), the presumption against the self-links (remembering: if they are self-links, they violate the policies linked above, period) will not seem so strange.  In short, these CASEP links got removed prejudicially because they seemed to be part of a wider (and less appropriate) campaign to promote Kelvin Knight and CASEP. (Moreover, by not reverting at Virtue ethics and Aristotelianism, you seem to acknowledge the difference between valuable resources like bibliographies and links to the CASEP home page that are questionable and appear to be self-promotion.) Wareh (talk) 23:51, 14 December 2009 (UTC)