User talk:KenWalker/Archive 2007

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I have moved the Meritorious Service Medal page to Meritorious Service Decoration, which has then been changed to Meritorious Service Decoration (Canada). Intially, we only had the medal, but later the Cross, a higher decoration, was added. The page refers to both which together are properly described by the new page title. I hope this is ok, it seems correct to me. When I click on What Links Here, I see several pages that come up. Is it the right thing to do to go to each and edit them to lead to the new page or should it just be left for the redirection function to take care of? kgw 21:08, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi I guess you mean you moved Meritorious Service Medal (Canada). Ideally you would go to the pages linking to it and update them to point to the real page rather than the redirect. This might mean that the text in the linging page changes which may not be what is intended (depening on context), so you might need to make the links something like Meritorious Service Medal which would show up as Meritorious Service Medal. --pgk( talk ) 21:17, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

OK, I understand that, but now I may have messed up here. I am trying to add a category to useon the page I have done for Jill Sampson. What I wanted to do is make a category link like the one for recipients of the Order of Canada. Such a list would be a useful reference and add recognition to the decoration by creating a list of these recipients. But when I tried to do it, I think I have messed up. The page Category:Meritorious Service Decoration (Canada) only shows up as a preview even though it shows the links to Jill Sampson and Julian Armour These show up because I have edited those two pages to refer to this category. Yet the category shows up in red when it is referred to. Am I on the wrong track? kgw 21:57, 15 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I fixed it for you. You have to add content to the category page for it to work. I added a brief description on the category page, saved it, and thus, voila, blue link. Feel free to ask if you need more help. Pepsidrinka 22:06, 15 April 2006 (UTC)


 * An added note: to link to a category, just write a colon followed by the category page, and enclose it in wikilinks. For example, Category:Meritorious Service Decoration (Canada) will appear as Category:Meritorious Service Decoration (Canada). If you leave out the colon, it will instead categorize the page instead of inserting a link to the category. Pepsidrinka 22:10, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the message on Digna Ochoa
Oh, I see what you mean. Thanks for the message. I believe, though, that you should make it a bit more clear in the article why this is being included and where the controversy falls in, because otherwise, it could easily be missed, or that sentence may be viewed as random spam...Just my thoughts, anyway... Michael 05:42, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Aerial shots of Nanaimo
I see you renamed the images - good job - I went ahead and added Image:Nanaimo aerial 1.jpg to the Newcastle Island and Nanaimo articles. heqs 01:23, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

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Toolbar Dv82matt
I came across the very useful User page tool at the User page of User:Dv82matt. I am not sure of the source, but I am really pleased with it and want to thank Dv82matt for making it available. kgw 05:03, 5 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm pleased that you like it, I made it myself. Feel free, of course, to use and modify it as you see fit. :) --Dv82matt 07:41, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Signature Change
Just figured out why my signature wasn't turning up the way I expected on things and I have changed it. It used to sign things as kgw but now signs with my correct username with is KenWalker. I hope that does not create any confusion. KenWalker | Talk 05:23, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Iain Black
The point of the copyvio flag is to clear the copyright violations from the page history. Now you've just copied the plagiarized text onto the "new" page. --Usgnus 06:39, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * It's only a problem if someone complains. I didn't mean to come down too harsh. I already cut out the offending stuff. Feel free to rewrite the rest. --Usgnus 06:51, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * An administrator will delete the page and move the temp page over. No action is required on your part. --Usgnus 13:58, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

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ITN
Thanks for the heads up - send a link to the article and I'll try to included it next week. I have been including these local newspaper stories, and will probably continue to do so until they get to numerous :) -- Trödel 20:23, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Nevermind on sending the link - I missed the link when I read your note the first time -- Trödel 20:24, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough
ken

John Turvey
Ken -- Merope might not get back to you right away; she's taking a bit of a break from Wikipedia. If I'm thinking of the same John Turvey you are, he seems like he might be notable enough for Wikipedia. The standards are described here: WP:BIO.

When you create the page initially, be sure to make it clear why he is notable enough (WP:N) for a biography on Wikipedia.

Also, while you're adding to the article, you can include the tag   to make it clear that it's incomplete.

It can also help to temporarily include the tag   to indicate that the article is a work in process...but that's only intended to be used for a very brief period, no more than an hour or so. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs)  04:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I just noticed that you're in Canada, which makes me guess that you might be thinking of the same John Turvey I am. Is this and this the person you're thinking of? -- Jim Douglas (talk)  (contribs)  04:21, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Ok, I see no problem with notability; refer to WP:BIO for the guidelines. See the Order of Canada and Order of BC bios for background information, and if you google his name, you should find plenty of press coverage.  I'm in Vancouver...and here's something strange:  I've never met him myself, but his late brother, Dave, was my uncle. -- Jim Douglas (talk)  (contribs)  04:28, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I haven't turned on the TV or radio, or looked at any news sites today, so I hadn't realized he died. You've done a great job on the article.  I found this CBC obituary as well.


 * Oh wow, you're right! "In 1984...."  Sloppy fact-checking.  I've been trying to find his date of birth, all I can find is the reference that he was 61. -- Jim Douglas (talk)  (contribs)  06:42, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I added him to this list; it seemed appropriate. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs)  06:52, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Followup about Wikipedia deletion policy
Ken, I thought you might be interested in this New York Times article:


 * "Roughly 4,000 articles are added each day, and about half that number are deleted that same day, Wikipedia says, by administrators who determine that an article is not up to standards."

With that volume of new articles, we end up having to make a snap judgement: does the article describe a person who seems to be notable enough to justify a Wikipedia bio? We honestly try to make the right choice each time; we don't want to delete valid content any more than we want to keep junk. If you just started the first version of the article as a minimal framework, with no indication why this person might be notable, then the deletion is understandable. (I really don't know; I didn't see the article.) Anyway, thanks for taking the time to add it. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs)  15:49, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


 * "I was going to reference another NYTimes article in the Turvey article but didn't because they require registration to access it."


 * The New York Times is one of the best possible sources to cite; it helps to demonstrate more than local/regional notability. If it just requires the free registration, that's not a major problem.  If it requires a TimesSelect (paid) registration, it's a bit more problematical.  But if the piece adds context, then it's probably useful.


 * Ok, I just did the search...is this the article you were thinking of? That seems like a good citation to show that he was the driving force behind one of the first needle exchange programs in North America. -- Jim Douglas (talk)  (contribs)  16:30, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I noticed the new link...and someone else added some useful categories at the bottom (Canadian activists makes sense). Hopefully someone else will come along now and expand it. -- Jim Douglas (talk)  <sub style="color:gray;">(contribs)  19:36, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Insular Plate
I saw a comment you left on the talk page of this page. But I'm sorry to tell you I had to delete this artcile as it was a copyright violation uploaded by another user (from here)--Konst.ableTalk 23:23, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

BC Premier Joseph Martin
Hi; saw your comment on the Talk:Joseph Martin (Canadian politician page; I made some notes there but it occurred to me that later on tonight or tomorrow I'll transcribe the relevant passages from the J. Morton book I mention onto one of my sandbox pages for your perusal and possible condensation (since I've been too lazy....transcribing takes less mental work than editing/thinking, as you know).Skookum1 01:56, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Cougar Annie
Great work on the Cougar Annie article! I bought the book after a visit to Cougar Annie's in the 90's. She was long gone of course, and the house & gardens were in disrepair. I have a few pictures of Cougar Annie's house at the time that I'll upload when I find a scanner. I believe her house has now been torn down, but I did have a chance to wander inside at the time. Lots of canned goods still on shelf. Can't say for certain whether any were labelled "cougar", but who knows? Paper ripper 1968 04:35, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Joseph Martin (Canadian politician)
See reply at User_talk:BrownHairedGirl. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:04, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I've just completed transcribing all passages from one of my own sources on Martin, J. Morton's In the Sea of Sterile Mountains, on a sandbox page at User talk:Skookum1/BC&PacificNorthwestHistory/Resources It doesn't have the particular passage on the Martin regime's session of parliament, such as it was, so I must have something else around here because, if it was maybe in a newspaper history column, I think I must have saved it; I think it was in another book though, I just can't remember which for now; but there's plenty in Morton to dig your teeth into (including the tidbit that Martin was the first person ever to be treated with insulin).Skookum1 22:11, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Mr. Lunney
I replied on my talk page. – Quadell (talk) (random) 03:09, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Editing Thurber Engineering Ltd.
Hi KenWalker. Not only was the article I created tagged with speedy deletion; it was deleted! I don't work for the company, nor do I want to; however I do have interests in many things related to engineering geology. I don't believe this was advertising the company, as I was clearly starting an article with its founders, etc. This is no more of an advertisement than AMEC and other articles, and I take offense that you have done this. Please look at the contributions before deciding if that person was starting an article that was "clearly written to promote a company". Please bring the said article back, if you can. <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">+mwtoews 17:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Change to Common.css
Per recent discussions, the way in which Persondata is viewed by Wikipedia editors has changed. In order to continue viewing Persondata in Wikipedia articles, please edit your user CSS file to display table.persondata rather than table.metadata. More specific instructions can be found on the Persondata page. -- ShakingSpirit <sup style="color:#000000;">talk  on behalf of Kaldari 01:23, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Public Domain photos
Hi Ken, Skookum1 mentioned you were interested in copyright info for historical photos. I put some information and links as a resource on my user page if you want to check it out. Cheers, Bobanny 08:38, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Erik Bornmann links
An hour spent with Google tonight produced the following sources that provide background concerning Mr Bornmann that may be useful in adding content to the Erik Bornmann article. A press release by his lawyer in Ontario, and a related canada.com article. Tyee article, an essay he apparently did, Delta Optimist Article,  A reference to him in question period in the BC legislature and another one.  Something from CTV news, from Burnaby now, and two pieces from CBC 1 and 2. Something from Victoria voices,  and from Mr Bornmann's own work and from Andrew Coyne who I think is a Globe and Mail columnist. These are at least a starting point. KenWalker | Talk 07:29, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

BC WikiProject Userbox has been made
Made a stab at a userbox; check 'er out: Template:User WikiProject British Columbia (use ). Fudged around with the colours and borders for a while, tried to use colours taken from the dogwood but wound up blue-adjusting the background, not quite happy with the bkgnd colour but it's better than the grey-transparent on the Vancouver userbox. Trying to think which stubs are needed; I think one for mountain and moutain range stubs (there'll be hundreds of these...), though the dogwood won't do for that; could use it for parks stubs, though, no? There's already a protected area stub that has a thing from the US Southwest on it; might as well replace it with the dogwood (d'ya like the dogwood? It's from Wikimedia Commons...I thumbed it down though). Trying to remember which other stubs are needed....bio-stub I guess for biographies, I'm thinking one for communities/settlements, have to think what else. Suggestions?Skookum1 02:21, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

WP:COI - possible recourse?
Please see a note on this to Bobanny on her talk page. Note especially the bit about not taking part in deletion discussions..... Skookum1 00:17, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Just left a note with Proto about Omar Jack's latest
Please see Ongoing vandalism by sockpuppet at Erik Bornmann page at Proto's talkpage.Skookum1 02:40, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

relief from puppetry - new article on Rock Creek War
At last - I got to write something useful. Been putting this off for a while now, finally got the outline in tonight. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Creek_Gold_Rush Now for the Omineca, Wild Horse Creek and the Big Bend.....Skookum1 10:28, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Fresh vandalism of Talk:Erik Bornmann
Please see this.Skookum1 19:06, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Opinion requested - PSAC title
Hi. Please see and  re the best/preferred name for an article on Puget's Sound Agricultural Company (that's my own pref).Skookum1 00:05, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Here we go again....maybe
Please see Removal of Erik Bornmann protection and history at Erik Bornmann. Seems like I better get off my duff with that Riley Smyth thing, although "he" wasn't a new account anyway so the protect didn't affect "him". Between the block/AFD/sockpuppetry reports the whole page has quieted down...for now...but with the block lifted I'm expecting further trouble, unless EB's "friends" have decided to back off because of the public attention it was drawing to their efforts to screw with it....Skookum1 00:56, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

reply on my talkpage
Hi; been at First Nations government and tribal council stubs all morning, finally got to have my shower and eat lunch...reply is on my talkpage.Skookum1 22:08, 20 January 2007 (UTC) PS you may enjoy my post from last night on the Tyee Books although what I'm on about has nothing to do with the article/book being reviewed....Skookum1 22:10, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Canadiana.org sources on colonial BC
Hi; I'll try and remember to get on that Vancouver Island Ranges map this evening; I spent all day yesterday making stubs and redirects (duh, talk about OCD...). But this morning I came across an online source in www.canadiana.org that has details I've been looking for for quite a while: not just the date and circumstances of the Colonial councils and assemblies, but also what their districts and members were, and the qualifying requirements for votersr and members; there's also details of the Whatcom Trail and even of the Fraser Canyon Gold Rush that I've never seen or heard of before (and that's saying a lot...in all modesty). Anyway, after reading from where I started on about page 18 of J.B. Kerr's Biographical Sketches of British Columbians, with historical etc., I know that articles on the Colonial Assembly of Vancouver Island can be started, but wanted to check the title with other editors; formal title wold be Legislative Assembly of the Colony of Vancouver's Island, I believe, or maybe without the "Legislative" qualifier; likewise the Executive Council of British Columbia which didn't come into being until almost Douglas' retirement; I think there'd been a Mainland Assembly but he dissolved it in frustration (if that's the case I saw that in Hauka, I'm sure) with the riff-raff who railed against him from it; there was one after him but I haven't read through Kerr all the way yet; I imagine all the full details are in Bancroft or Scholefield, although I'm not sure if they're on line and I don't feel like putting up with the SFU library's teenage-hallway bullshit to research anything up there; especially in reserves, which has no seating and is adjacent to the 400 cellphone-babbling, gossiping, flirting undergrads (in what used to be the quiet area of the card catalogue, years ago....). Anyway, partly passing on the Kerr/canadiana.org reference, and also needing advice/input on article titles. His take on the San Juans gets really interesting, too, by the way....I imagine there's a few more eye-openers in it...but right now I've got to go to the store....Skookum1 22:32, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Bro XII
Saw your merge; didn't know there were two...so I went and made redirect for Edward Arthur Wilson and also plopped him on the Wilson and Brother dab pages.....Garnet Basque's write-up in Lost Bonanzas of British Columbia is a doozy...(and well-done); you can see by my redlink there I think Basque deserves an article as a notable BC historian; T.W. Paterson also (Heritage House mag-size series). Do you want to tackle the Reincarnation of Isis (that was her sobriquet, one of his paramours, the last and flashiest one I think) or should we pawn that one off on Fishhead64 (he's an Anglican priest, but De Courcy Island is on his beat more than yours I think.... ;=) Skookum1 10:25, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

"Legitimacy of the Provisional Government of Oregon"
Hi; I've got this ongoing snarl at Talk:Oregon Country and related stuff on Talk:Oregon boundary dispute and Talk:Oregon Treaty that I'm getting weary of arguing with this User:Aboutmovies guy about; is it just me or are the sophomores taking over the world? Anyway, my fault for not digging through Akriggs, Ormsby and this new Kerr source and making sure the BPOV (British point of view) is present on these pages; but lately this kid - and I'm sure it's a kid, although apparently he has a BA (a kid, in other words...) is adamant about "proving" the legitimacy of the Provisional Government of Oregon, even making it a central theme of the article; British perspectives on the American claims and tactics are absent, and dismissed in discussion, and the Native American perspective omitted entirely; I don't know if you'd care to provide backup but it's really getting to be a waste of time for me; no matter what I say to point out his non sequiturs he wants to keep on "proving" the legitimacy of this provisional government thing the Williamette squatters set up in their own image in 1843, and isn't interested in anything else. There's a certain breed of "Oregon nationalist" that's out there, and there's similar problems on Pacific Northwest regarding what I call the "Cascadia agenda"....."historical imperialism" or "historiographical imperialism" is what I call all this stuff; revising history to justify its iniquities is an old game, of course. I'll fly this by Fishhead64 as well, though he's delightfully non-confrontational/non-committal on most things, but tends to know his early BC/NW history...I've got to do my laundry and go shopping......Skookum1 21:00, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Vancouver Island Ranges map
There ya go. My two bits for the night; think I'm going to hit the bus and make it down to the $2 show at the Dolphin to see The Fountain. Been Wiki'ing way too much lately....Skookum1 05:00, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Number-key is done; see Talk:Vancouver Island Ranges.Skookum1 08:29, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Should I redo the numbers, or is it fine as-is? i.e. am I being "too perfectionist"?  Fixed the links and gave the NASA source image, pondering which range-area to do next; Hazelton Mountains are kind of complicated so maybe they'd be fun; but I supposed the Selkirks are more high-priority (and multi-layered too, i.e. subranges within subranges, like the Lillooet Ranges were on that other map}.Skookum1 17:28, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Fort Ware - mid?
Hi; just happened to see the rating you gave Fort Ware; I know it's the only town for, what, 200 miles, but just curious what the rationale for the "mid" rating is; there's far larger places elsewhere that only get "low". Not that it matters, just curious. BTW there's an AFD off that fracas at Hollywood North; from the sublime to the ridiculous, if you examine the talkpage and edit history that "led" to it...actually there was nothing sublime going on at all...back to the North; found out some interesting stuff about McDame/Fort McDame/McDame Post (its various guises); I've really got to get away from the controversies on various talkpages and "get at" my ghost town and history articles; there's only so much time I've got left on this planet before they revoke my diplomatic visa ;-)....by which I mean "the road is calling" and I may be doing the wandering musician thing by spring...so should get at the planned article contributions I've always wanted to do, avoid the b.s. and the slippery slopes of impossible POV debates that seem to take up way too much time, without any actual "contributing" getting done. I've been looking for a troll-spray to use to that end, but haven't found one....Skookum1 09:43, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Canadian Freemasons
Got them from this site http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/history/bc_premiers.html

Will cite each one soon. It's alot of work. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Webucation (talk • contribs) 12:48, 26 January 2007 (UTC).

Your thoughts on something
Hi; please see Wars/conflicts without names on the List of conflicts in Canada talkpage.Skookum1 21:19, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Lakes vs. communities named after lakes
Hi; saw your Devick Lake, British Columbia template addition; see Talk:Devick Lake, British Columbia.....Skookum1 04:32, 27 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, all BC project people should probably make a point of using the project's talkpage(s), esp. for issues like this; maybe a loose policy of "if you make some comments relevant to whole categories of articles, please at least make a link on the project talkpage" or otherwise keep notes on stuff like this there......ditto with my rambling guidelines on the FN-article stuff. BTW I noticed you'd put Forbes Vernon at mid or low; one loose policy I'd had was that all major early BC politicians (and in his case, major landowner) should get "high"; he was also a cabinet minister I'm pretty sure.  What did I put on Talk:John Andrew Mara anyway (his neighbour)?  Just a sec I'll be back...Skookum1 04:46, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, OK - "mid" - or did you rate that one? All those kinds of guys should at least get "mid".  I just had a look through that Early Canadian Online J.B. Kerr book I referenced for you, thinking I'd find something on Andrew Charles Elliott....to my surprise, he's not in there, unless the Premiers are listed separately and I haven't found that section yet....one thing that caught my eye is it seems in the 19th Century they used "MPP" instead of MLA, also.....thinking of writing an article on the pre-party system/era in BC, as I've found a number of interesting contemporary passages defending it and expressing discontent with the impending imposition of the party system (by Joly de Lotbiniere, after the Turner-Semlin-Martin-Dunsmuir multiple fiasco....).Skookum1 04:50, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * re Vernon to "high"- so should Mara be, then, and anyone in ranching/politics from that area/era. I'll set Andrew Charles Elliott to "high", also, as any Premier should be "high" (on whatever...); also any L-G (found some good stuff on L-G Clement Cornwall lately, too.....).Skookum1 04:53, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Here's one for ya....
Please see Talk:List of Lieutenant-Governors of British Columbia; I'll run it by Fishhead and Bobanny later also.....Skookum1 05:00, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Skookumchuck Narrows/Sechelt Rapids and googlemaps v. basemap
Hi; just a reminder that googlemaps' labelling is not necessarily what's gazetted; what's gazetted is what's on Basemap/LRDWC at maps.gov.bc.ca. Bivouac/RT invented a parse of basemap which opens Basemap at the given coordinates of the entry, be it a pass or peak; but it routes through bivouac's php system so you can't simply copy the link on an entry page; must be simple but I don't know enough code how to do it. Anyway, while googleearth/googlemaps opens up on something labelled Sechelt Rapids, remember that their data set is also user-generated content like Wikipedia (I know, because I've added a few things...); it's basemap/LRDWC that's the archival naming system, which should be the primary, especiall because of the user-generated content issue at googlemaps.Skookum1 01:33, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I understand, but my source is marine charts. I guess I should have said where I was getting the information.  Does the source you mention produce a different answer? I get a 404 error at maps.gov.bc.ca. uh, when I type it right it does work.  Checking to see what they have. KenWalker | Talk 01:37, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

your www visit
Thought I should drop a line here too, to thank you for the visit to my photo galleries, glad you enjoyed them. I certainly plan on placing some of them on various pages here. Earlier today, posted some in my 'older' collection (which for me is Y2K or so) of Kispiox, Lakelse Lake, and Thornhill. Thanks for noticing the Nass one. A matter of where to start, andso far seems to be in north to south direction. But yes, Golden Hinde would be good, since I'm originally from the Island.. (although my usage there of "The Island" may indicate I've been on the Lower Mainland longer than I care to admit). Been adding some stuff and mostly just snooping around and doing light maintenance here so far, in my week or so of active participation. Look forward to working with you and others on the project. Oh yes, another thing, articles created by oneself: should not be rated for WikiProject purposes? Just wondering, I think one or two I did tag as stubs with low or mid (usually low) priority. Thx again --Keefer4 11:48, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

reply
glad you liked it; more on my talk page. Later....Skookum1 00:03, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Fountainview Academy
Saw your fixes to the Fountainview Academy section on there, which I've redlinked for fairly obvious reasons; and they do have a story worth a telling - their annual fall feast invites everyone in the valley, from town and the reserves, and it's an international place as well as connected into a lot of the small ranches and farms up and down Highway 12; they're just another element in Lillooet; but even as a separate educational institution, like Lillooet Secondary School or the Upper St'at'imc Language Authority and its school, for that matter. Lillooet's not about Fountainview Academy; Fountainview just happens to be near it, and since everyone knows everyone; as for the spelling, venture this was a farm kid but don't hold it against 'em; they put in a lot of info; it just needs to be a separate article, with a mention on this page. I was going to stub up the Upper St'at'imc Language Authority (or is it Language and Culture Authority?) before I vanish (poof!) and also a few other local institutions; if that public domain photo argument/discussion holds there'll be pictures of Ma Murray I can finally add to her page, too...anyway, I'm not in the mood to write it right now (I just came in from playing music and just catching my proverbial as well as physical breath) but I'd say Fountainview should be a separate article, and it shouldn't be the only thing in that section; I'm not sure of all the Elementary schools (native and white, as there are separate systems as well as heavy native content/curriculum in the public system; at least if you're native I guess, because the white kids - er, non-native kids, as Lillooet's always been very multi-racial - don't seem to absorb any of it, nor want to for the most part) and I'm sure there's not another high school. Fountainview is very much a different world than the post-frontier/urban space and the educational milieu in town, and in Lillooet Secondary especially. Not even only be comparison but in reality, Fountainview is a veritable monastery, in very real terms though not to the Benedictine rule, celibacy etc.; speaking of which the Benedictines from Mission have a retreat up in the Cayoosh, and have a bit of a role in some local rescues, and were also Ma Murray's pallbearers and funeral choir. The area of their main spread (ranch/farm in the local talk/argot) is called what it is because it's at the bottom of the hill from Fountain Lake, which is the old and original trail/wagon road to connect Lytton to Lillooet - via Fountain, not by Highway 12, which was impassable and sometimes/often still is - and was known for its steep grade; and the amazing view of the Fraser benchlands southwards as you're coming down it, as well as the descent into the Great Bend of the Fraser on the north side of the little pass; speaking of which I've got to remember to at least stub up Fountain, British Columbia and other localities in there I should have written long ago; Bralorne most of all. So much for thoughts on Fountainview; when I split Wikiworld I'd appreciate someone watching over my Lillooet area articles - someone taking an interest in the overall subject matter, too; I've been asked to write a book, but no one's coughing up my living expenses in the meantime...and I'm too "original research"-flavoured over all to work within Wiki comfortably, quite frankly, although WikiVersity and MidnightWiki and other similar Wikis might be more amenable to being adventurous; I had a look at WikiNews but it's even stricter than Wikipedia on source/content rules. Not that that's a bad thing, and I understand why; pity more journalists aren't taking advantage of it; Canada could use a free press one day, for one thing.....(you were around in '83 right - you remember the BC edition of the Globe & Mail that summer?.....) Anyway, g'nite; —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Skookum1 (talk • contribs) 06:36, 5 February 2007 (UTC).
 * Well, I arrived here from Saskatchewan in Sept 83, so I guess I missed what happened here that summer. Interesting stuff about Lillooet and the school. Your comments make sense, and as usual, your stories are interesting.  Sorry to hear talk of you heading off, hope it isn't completely or permanently.  Cheers.  KenWalker | Talk 07:41, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Nicholas Rockefeller
Hi Ken, I just had a look at the NR article and I'm pretty sure it needs to be deleted. I can see that you've puzzled about it too. I've left some remarks on the talk page.--Thomas Basboll 22:23, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for you comments. I've nominated it for deletion.--Thomas Basboll 23:41, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

You were right. (It's my first AfD.) I had not listed it in the request for deletion log. It should be in order now. Let me know if there's anything else you think I've missed.--Thomas Basboll 08:06, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks to me like you have it right now. I added my delete vote.  KenWalker | Talk 09:13, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Category:Vancouver Island
Hi there Ken. You have probably watchlisted some of Vancouver Island so will see the new category adds stemming from the Category:Vancouver Island creation today. It seems sensible that the new category may need further subdivision at some point down the line, but at the moment I've been throwing in anything I can find/think of geographical, historical and personal (people). Plenty of communities not in it yet, and still debating whether to add things like Neighbourhoods of Victoria, for example. So if it occurs to you as you peruse, have a look at the bottom of Van Isle pages to see whether they're added to the category, and add as needed, if you feel inclined. Regards. --Keefer4 | Talk 07:42, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

The WikiProject Biography Newsletter: Issue II - April 2007
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Pat Burns
Hi, I just noticed your note on the Talk:Patrick Burns (politician) article, which I just got back to today and expanded. Yes, BC related, as to the Grand Trunk Pacific construction and through the many BC locations of Burns Meats. Original stub article never mentioned any of that. Anyway, not sure if I should add any BC related categories to it or not.CindyBo 04:16, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for doing it, it is an interesting and useful article. I can't think of any BC Cats that  would be useful, but if I come across one I will add it.  -- KenWalker | Talk 05:52, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Assessment Drive
Yes I think that competitive edge is kicking in again - must go get some more done today....

But of course its all for the greater good of the Biography Assessment Drive, so its all worth it in the end!--Heidijane 11:17, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

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The article BX (sternwheeler) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. It hasn't failed because it's basically a good article, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:BX (sternwheeler) for things needed to be addressed. Mouse Nightshirt | talk  00:57, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
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 * Hi, Makes sense to me. Actually it was another editor who made the assessment you refer to though, I only did the WP:BIO assessment.  Cheers, -- KenWalker | Talk 15:35, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that, though it does seem it was your assessment, at this edit? Anyway, I wouldn't wish to assess the article, but if you're happy you may feel like amending. Regards, Xn4 20:13, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
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