User talk:Ken Gallager/Archive 5

Supermax article
Hi Ken. Thanks for your alpabetizing the US facilities in the Supermax article. I added on to your formatting, and indented by state. Best wishes. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 20:39, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * That's great - certainly the next logical step. Thanks, --Ken Gallager (talk) 13:10, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Surely, Ken. Best wishes. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 15:40, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Telegraph links
Unfortunately, a switch of Web providers has killed virtually all links to all Telegraph stories before last fall. In theory this will get fixed one of these days ... but I'm beginning to lose hope. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 14:38, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I actually was thinking of removing the link in the Benson's article entirely, since it's kind of weird to offer instructions on searching. I left it in because I was impressed at the number of articles that have been written about the property in the last several months. --Ken Gallager (talk) 15:02, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Winnipesaukee Playhouse
Hi. Thanks for fixing up my grammar and such on the Winnipesaukee Playhouse page. I just have a quick question. I was under the impression that the opening of an article is basically a summary of the article in its hole, and that everything in the opening has to be somewhere else in the article. That is why i had the small awards section, so that the awards claims were found elsewhere in the article. Is this wrong? Just wondering since you got rid of that section for being repetitive, when i though you had to be. --Found5dollar (talk) 14:43, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Dodge's Store
All due respect Ken as a native of New Boston and growing up in the store that I discuss, I feel it is important to acknowledge and pay respect to my grandfather(s) that operated Dodge's Store for 3 generations then my uncle then myself. It does not put "undo weigh to one subject"

Dodge's Store and my family was an anchor to the town. Supporting people before there was a food pantry, extending credit to families that we did know full well would not pay us back. My grandfather Homer G. Dodge ran the store into the ground being of assistance to the people of New Boston. He took it lying down and never said an ill word about the people who owed him thousands upon thousand of dollars. Please consider this before you decide to make my contribution very vanilla.

John —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jjenkinson (talk • contribs) 02:29, 28 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree that the store is important enough to be included in the article. Usually, places of business don't rise to that level, but this is clearly a special place.  Sorry about the "vanilla" tone of my edits, but that's how Wikipedia is written.  It isn't actually a place for personal testimonials about one's relatives.  If you can find published works about the store, I would recommend starting a separate article about the store.  Then you could place in all the detail you originally mentioned and more.  But in an article about the entire town, two paragraphs detailing every owner's name and their dates of ownership is not pertinent to the overall subject of the article.--Ken Gallager (talk) 13:22, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Ken: It was not intentional to undo your edits. It was an error on my part. I will happily create my own article page. I felt it important to mention this business as I am confident there is not a single business in town besides maybe the Dodge Farm possibly that has been in operation as long as it was. Unfortunately all my pictures are hard copied and will need to be scanned. Are you one of the Galaghers from New Boston? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.253.56.216 (talk) 13:58, 28 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm not from New Boston, but I knew Claire Dodge several years ago when we worked in the same office in Concord. The farm is certainly another of the very special places in New Boston.  --Ken Gallager (talk) 16:45, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Habitat for Humanity
Hello Ken,

I've read about your work on New Hampshire Wiki pages; I wanted to see if I could procure your help as I am not knowledgeable in Wikipedia. I helped construct a page for Greater Nashua Habitat for Humanity - the intent of the main person working on this page was to provide a brief narrative of the organization's history. The page was pretty inconsequential for some time, only when some category boxes began to appear did it begin to leave an undesirable trail - the page really doesn't look like a reasonable and clean entry.

Can this page be deleted? Or set to "redirect" to Habitat for Humanity International's page again?

I can explain the brief history of the page with more clarity if you wish - there was never any intent to create a page that seemed "biased," "too local in interest," or "not notable enough..." not to mention "orphaned:" this prompted the two of us that worked on the page to add links to the cities and towns served by the organization - one of them being Merrimack - a link that you removed from the Merrimack page.

I'm not seeking to prolong any editorial differences with other Wiki editors - just to help preserve the integrity of both Wikipedia's efforts and any entries related to the organization. Could you kindly advise or simply help remove a page that seems to be creating great editorial trauma!? One of the categories on the page at the moment says the page could be deleted... can that be done rather than perpetuate the tortured existence of something that was done with no ill intent?

Regards,

WKS —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wkstrategies (talk • contribs) 23:29, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Please Ignore Previous Entry on Habitat for Humanity
It seems someone understood what I was trying to do and the redirect I tried to place has worked. I apologize for any confusion! WKS —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wkstrategies (talk • contribs) 23:34, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Great photos
Your photos of the NRHP sites in New Hampshire really add a lot to the articles. Thanks for all of your work. Swampyank (talk) 02:43, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Ken Gallager Arch

 * Awesome! Your new article was a great idea.  I put it in the "Climate change" category, because I'd like people interested in that topic worldwide to run across your info. --Ken Gallager (talk) 13:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Castle in the Clouds edits
Hi, Ken. Thanks for catching "It's". I don't know how I missed that. It happens. Also for adding India as the location of the city of Lucknow as it indeed sounds more likely to be found in China than there. Cheers. Wikiuser100 (talk) 17:59, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * That's interesting - I thought the same thing about Lucknow being in China before I looked it up. Thanks for all your improvements to the NH articles.--Ken Gallager (talk) 12:21, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It must be a common error, now avoided. Thanks for the positive feeback. Same in spades your way. Wikiuser100 (talk) 11:30, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Saint Anselm College
Hi Ken!

Thanks for awarding me "The Barnstar of Diligence", I'm relatively new to this and have never received an award! So thanks!

Also, thanks for your help as well with the Saint Anselm College page. I am trying to get it to GA status, so any help you give (you've already given a lot... thanks!) is much appreciated! --Ericci8996 (talk) 17:47, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Manchester, NH
yes, the primary reason to remove the data was the winter range. From what I see, Manchester is located not too far from the coast, and (pardon me if I do not know otherwise), given this and its low-lying location, the normal winter day-night (diurnal) temperature range should NOT be even close to 27 °F. Among NE stations, I have seen 20 °F for some areas away from an urban heat island, but rarely any larger: winter ranges here mostly tend to fall between 11-17 °F. Nonetheless, 27 °F is highly possible in summer. In the meantime, why don't we switch the station to Nashua? It just seems deceptive to users that such a large winter range is possible. ---华钢琴49 (TALK) 04:40, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
 * comment: actually, the closest station to the city is Massabesic Lake, as evidenced by the coordinates here. Something about the environs of the lake must make it have those ridiculous stats, namely the depressed nighttime temps. In a relatively urban setting, with respect to climactic data, we Wikipedians are supposed to depict an urban-influenced climate. Thus I still wish to change the station to Nashua. and if you think that I should be only bringing this issue to light on the Manchester discussion page, sorry. ---华钢琴49 (TALK) 04:58, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Chester City (disambiguation) listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Chester City (disambiguation). Since you had some involvement with the Chester City (disambiguation) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:24, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Your edits to New Hampshire Motor Speedway
You removed fully referenced information from a reliable source, i.e. the Indianapolis Star, calling it "crystal-ball info". What is the basis for this assertion? --rogerd (talk) 20:52, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Because the announcement hasn't been made yet. Wait until June 27, or whatever the date of the announcement is, before putting up the news.  Sometimes insider info that makes it to the paper turns out to be wrong. --Ken Gallager (talk) 12:33, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

KEENE Radio List
Hey Ken, just a thought, maybe the radio list for the city of Keene should be in frequency order, instead of Alpha-numeric order? Typically radio and TV directory lists are done this way. Before I did a change, I wanted to get your input on it, as I've seen you do a lot of edits there. Necrat (talk) 04:44, 22 June 2010 (UTC)NECRAT
 * That sounds like a great idea. Thanks for putting up the info on the additional stations.  --Ken Gallager (talk) 12:35, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Hedding
I provided some info on the Epping Talk page about Hedding Campground. Its also a pine tree farm BTW 74.215.169.66 (talk) 19:20, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Thomas Monson (disambiguation) listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Thomas Monson (disambiguation). Since you had some involvement with the Thomas Monson (disambiguation) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Bridgeplayer (talk) 14:40, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Ken - call Dave Brooks if you can (July 19)
Ken - you're off today and I'd like to talk to you for a story, about a weird place name. If you see this today (Monday, July 19) call me at work: 594-5831 - DavidWBrooks (talk) 15:23, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Got your message this morning, and I've left you one on your voice mail. See you, --Ken Gallager (talk) 14:52, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar for GNIS

 * Well, thank you! --Ken Gallager (talk) 18:56, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Doloris Bridges
Doh!Wikijsmak (talk) 03:34, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * If it had been someone from Georgia, I might have left it... ;-] --Ken Gallager (talk) 12:06, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I violated the rule against composing/editing while drowsy. Thanks for straightening it out.  Wikijsmak (talk) 23:25, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

traffic circle
I'm very dubious about this edit. I think you were probably looking at the far more common roundabouts, and possibly misreading the road signs. Johnbod (talk) 09:15, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I think the whole article is very unclear about making the distinction between a traffic circle and a roundabout. What is the minimum diameter of a traffic circle, below which it becomes a roundabout?  The references in the article don't point us to that information.  While my edit is unfortunately vague, we simply don't have the information to categorically state that traffic in the circle usually must yield to those entering.  As stated later on the article, that is certainly not true in the United States (except possibly in New Jersey), and in my forays in Google Street View I've seen numerous large traffic circles in Spain, France, and Italy that clearly have yield signs for entering traffic.  If you can provide better information, I'm all for it.--Ken Gallager (talk) 12:25, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Hillsboro-Dearing High School
Sure, I'll move it to User:Ken Gallager/Hillsboro-Dearing High School for you. The issue was that despite the title, the article itself was actually a poorly-written and unreferenced article about the whole town — but if you're familiar with the area, you're much better equipped to salvage it than I am :-) Bearcat (talk) 15:40, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

George Albert Frost
Ken, I know you are a frequent contributor to Wikipedia. I just noticed an edit to the bio of the artist George Albert Frost. Some guy at 69.247.128.24 basically lifted my bibliography from WhiteMountainArt.com and used it to create the bibliography for George Albert Frost. This is crazy. Most of these references have nothing to do with Frost. You are familiar with standards and policies. How do we address this issue? You can respond here or on my talk page. I guess I need to add something to the article's discussion page. Isn't it wrong to lift the bibliography from my site even if the references were relevant? JJ (talk) 15:03, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi John. That was a strange article, now that I recall.  The editor appears to have cut and pasted a large amount of information into it and not actually incorporated it into the existing text.  How much of the bibliography would you feel is relevant to Frost's article? My own inclination, if I found an entire list of mine placed in the article like this, would be to weed it out and simply reduce it to the bare essentials, but not entirely remove it.  If you can identify the most useful references in the list that would be of use to readers, perhaps you could leave those in.  It must be annoying to see the fruits of your labors so carelessly spread about, but I think with a free encyclopedia like this the best response is to set aside as best one can one's feelings of ownership towards the material and edit with an eye to what is most useful to the general reader.  Thanks for getting in touch.  --Ken Gallager (talk) 15:50, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Ken. It's not so much a sense of ownership, as it is the irrelevance of most of the material.  I would probably cut almost all the references, at least 95%!  But, good suggestion.  I'll pare it down.  JJ (talk) 16:01, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Exeter High Page
Ken,

Did you delete my adding of shrine players because of the formatting of the list? Or did you decided that they didn't deserve the recognition? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.67.106.98 (talk) 18:58, 23 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi. The latter.  There's always a big temptation to list students of which one is proud, but just think of all the other activities that students could be listed in - there's no end to it.  Articles would wind up just being enormous lists of names.  --Ken Gallager (talk) 19:08, 23 September 2010 (UTC)


 * If any of the students in the list have subsequently become notable enough for a Wikipedia article, that's a different story. They could be listed under a "Notable alumni" section.  See WP:Notability.  --Ken Gallager (talk) 19:10, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

I'll respect your edit. While I absolutely believe that the players who were selected deserve to be named I'm not about to argue about it. My interest was that wiki would be the only place where the names would be available to the public and that the respect afforded to the EHS football program more than merits as much information as possible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.67.106.98 (talk) 19:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

National Register of Historic Places info
Hi, thanks for revising new article Golden Rod Grange No. 114 and another New Hampshire Grange Hall article. These are from List of Grange Hall buildings which i have been developing, and i find that stub articles help me develop the list better. Thanks in particular for identifying the error of "Swanzy" when Swanzey, New Hampshire was meant. There are unfortunately a fair number of typos in the National Register's NRIS database, which was my source and which is generally reliable. FYI, I and other NRHP editors track NRIS errors in pages like wp:NRIS info issues NH, where i just noted your correction, so that we can correspond to the National Register and get them to update their database. Your noting other errors there, when you come across any, would be appreciated.

By the way, if you know of any notable New Hampshire places that should be added to List of Elks buildings or List of Masonic buildings or List of Odd Fellows buildings I would be glad to learn of them. I myself have not found any NRHP-listed ones of those in New Hampshire.

Thanks and keep up the good work! --doncram (talk) 13:27, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

courthouse moves
Hey, i know there are two treatments in place, but I don't agree with the courthouse move i notice going on. I prefer the (City, State) format, in part for consistency with all other historic buildings where (City, State) is used when disambiguation is needed. Can you please stop and discuss. --doncram (talk) 13:24, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * In particular i don't like to see edits like this one, in which city information is completely lost for readers in a dab page. I see how that happened, how you renamed the courthouse articles themselves to drop city, and then it is in fact correct that the dab page should show the actual, updated link, and you just dropped the city.  At a minimum, the city should have been given outside the link then.
 * In some counties, there are more than one courthouse currently in use at alternative county seats, and in other counties there are multiple buildings that have been used through time. I happen to think it helps to use (City, State) in all cases.  There is not a full consensus about this in past discussions though.  I would not be thrilled to have a big discussion, but i could dig out old discussion if necessary. --doncram (talk) 13:31, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Another problem in that edit is that you changed the article title for the Bluffton, Indiana, no article yet created, so that it is inconsistent with the article title in the corresponding NRHP-list, National Register of Historic Places listings in Wells County, Indiana, which would tend towards causing confusion, creation of 2 separate articles eventually, etc. I'll undo at least part of the Wells County Courthouse dab page changes now. --doncram (talk) 13:48, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi Don, I understand your concern about some of the changes I made. My overall rationale is to avoid confusion and make it easier for people searching for a county courthouse to come across them. That said, though, I do understand that there are cases where there are two or more county courthouses in different towns but in the same county. I have tried to avoid changing those (Arkansas is the best example, but I also saw a case in New Mexico), and I also avoided changing the ones in Missouri, because it appears that someone there has consciously named all the county courthouses by town and state. In other states, if the majority just use (state), then I have fixed the outliers. I guess I did overstep by changing the names of the red-linked ones, so I will not do that in the future.

This has all come about because I stumbled across List of courthouse buildings in the United States, which needed a ton of cleanup. Right now, I am trying to add NRHP courthouses that have articles but that got left out of the list for some reason. While doing so, and trying to link the courthouses listed, I have changed a small number of the county courthouse article titles based on what was prevalent around the country. So it's really just a side product of improving the list. I'll try to be sensitive to your concerns as I finish up the remaining states (O through Z). --Ken Gallager (talk) 14:36, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Lincoln County Courthouse (Nevada)
This is not really a good title from a dab point of view. There are two of these in the same town, so something better is needed. I know the old title was not great either. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:20, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for fixing that. I was focused on standardizing the state format and didn't give the 1838 courthouse as much weight as it should have had. --Ken Gallager (talk) 13:14, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape and Nanticoke Indian Tribe
Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape appears to be a POV fork of Nanticoke Indian Tribe. I would like to merge the first into the second, much better article. May I? Bearian (talk) 22:57, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Happy Ken Gallager's Day!
For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, click here. Have a Great Day... Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 06:00, 19 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Holy Topo Map, that's awesome! Thanks!  --Ken Gallager (talk) 13:08, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * You're quite Welcome! :) Keep up the Great Work! :) -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 18:28, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Hiking trails
Sure, if I can figure out which counties they are in, I'll be glad to organize them by county. Jllm06 (talk) 15:24, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Pelham, NH
I was surprised to see that yes, the border between MA and NH is not a latitude line. I need to update that article on the state borders to reflect that. I didn't believe Google Maps because it's so close to being a latitude line I wasn't sure their rendering was accurate. However, the USGS maps show that yes, the border drops ever so slightly from west to east from being a true east/west line. Happy editing, CSZero (talk) 23:27, 28 October 2010 (UTC)


 * You're point about not relying on the Google display is well-taken. I'll add a reference to the printed USGS quadrangle, because that's where the angle of the line is most clearly shown. --Ken Gallager (talk) 12:47, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Burke
Dear Mr. Gallager, thank you for your interest in my evolving article on Patrick E. Burke. Your assistance is appreciated. Yours, James Sullivan — Preceding unsigned comment added by WSS Regt Historian (talk • contribs) 21:44, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

dab cleanup involving NRHP entries
Hi, noticed ur edits like this one, cleaning up numerous dab pages which include NRHP entries, including updating former redlink entries where now an article exists. Thanks.

By the way, after the first NRHP entry on a page where i usually spell out National Register of Historic Places, I now usually format NRHP entries more briefly than i used to, e.g. as follows (from Edwards House dab): The last two are for where an article now exists, and i happen to have the county info handy vs. i don't happen to have that. You could choose to use that more succinct ", NRHP-listed" phrasing or not. Thanks and keep up the good work.... --doncram (talk) 15:25, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Adams-Edwards House, Raleigh, North Carolina, listed on the NRHP in Woodford County, North Carolina
 * John Edwards House, Leipsic, Ohio, NRHP-listed, in Putnam County
 * William Edwards Farmhouse, Newtown, Ohio, NRHP-listed


 * Thanks for the suggestion. I'll use "NRHP-listed" from now on when I run across it.  You may have noticed as well that I've started spelling out "National Register of Historic Places" just for the first time I run across it on a dab page. --Ken Gallager (talk) 15:27, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Helene edit
Even for good articles, red links are not considered a negative, as it lets people know a new article needs to be made. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:42, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with you that there is a place for red links. In this instance, though, the problem was a blue (ambiguous) link - First Baptist Church.  In some cases when disambiguating, I will leave a red link.  In this case, it would have been First Baptist Church (Augusta, North Carolina).  However, it appeared in my judgment that it would be very unlikely that an article will get written about the church.  It's not listed in the National Register of Historic Places, and it seems quite small and remote.  Nevertheless, if you think that an article may get written about it, by all means put in a red link there.  Please do not, however, simply revert my edits, as there were several other changes that I made at the same time.  --Ken Gallager (talk) 20:57, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Tenney Mountain
WRT to your question about year-round snowmaking, I think it's right; according to the company's website, "snow can be made regardless of temperature". I wouldn't pretend to have the slightest idea how it works, but apparently it does. C628 (talk) 15:03, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Yikes, you're right - I checked the reference you provided, which says they actually tried opening for skiing in the summer of 2004. Not a big surprise that it failed!  While the snowmaking may have been possible, the cost of constantly reapplying more snow to the constantly-melting slush must have been too great.  I'll remove my comment from the article. Thanks, by the way, for the nice upgrades you've been making to the ski slope articles. --Ken Gallager (talk) 19:04, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * First time I've tried my hand at ski area articles (sort of odd, given it's my favorite sport); good to know they aren't complete junk. :) C628 (talk) 20:42, 21 December 2010 (UTC)