User talk:Kendrick7/Archive/8

I wish you'd come back. You were a great editor. --William S. Saturn (talk) 01:15, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Unblock request
What I did was restore the consensus wording of one of our oldest policies, WP:EP, to the language it had for much longer than the six years I've been editing here. I admit, the idea of having to be drawn into yet another policy edit war didn't make me at all happy, and I realized in a moment of clarity that the project is seriously broken as there is no effective means of maintaining the project's ideals. WP:5P is apparently sacrosanct, but that's mere ritual when the underlying policies which effect it have no true relationship to it. Trying to keep them that way wasn't always such a lonesome and thankless task; but in every example of policy disputes for about two years now, there's simply months of bickering followed by, at best, the ArbCom taking six months to ponder the situation deeply and collectively shrug. I should not have directed my frustration at one random edit warrior, obviously, and like I said above, I would like to formally apologize for to him for that (I guess, that is, should he ever see this). However, my good name is now being dragged through the mud in an Arbitration case I'm not even a party to that I'm aware of, and I would have liked an opportunity to defend myself; but, OK sirs, whatever. I occasionally hold some slim hope that in the coming years or decades some clever Wikipedian will be able to stop the shifting sands of fickle policy, that are slowly but inevitably sinking the Five Pillars into the wasteland. But this silliness here... that I've been WP:BANned from the project for quitting, makes me have my doubts. I don't really know if there is anyone left who cares. -- Kendrick7talk 09:11, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Why isn't Kendrick being unblocked? The blocking admin stated that he would be "unblock[ed] with conditions" if he returned. --William S. Saturn (talk) 23:13, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Request for arbitration: Date delinking amendment motion
A request to amend the dates delinking arbitration case (filed 19 July 2009) has resulted in a motion (filed 2 August 2009) that proposes to change the restrictions imposed on you as a result of the case. The proposed amendment would affect the restrictions pertaining to 16 editors, all of whom are now being notified of the proposed amendment. Given that the proposed amendment affects your restrictions, and further that the proposed amendment will restrict the filing of further proposed amendments for a period of 30 days, your input is invited at the amendments page. You may view an unofficial table of the proposed changes here. Comments from affected parties are currently being considered by the Arbitration Committee. If you would like the arbitrators who have already voted to reconsider their votes in light of your comments, please indicate that in your comments.

For the Arbitration Committee

Sedd&sigma;n talk|WikimediaUK 03:32, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Arbitration motion regarding Requests for arbitration/Date delinking
Per a motion at Arbitration/Requests/Amendment: Having considered all the requests for amendment and requests for clarification submitted following the decision in Requests for arbitration/Date delinking, the Arbitration Committee decides as follows:


 * (1) All remedies in the decision providing that a specified user is topic-banned from editing or discussing "style and editing guidelines" (or similar wording) are modified by replacing these words with the words "style and editing guidelines relating to the linking or unlinking of dates";
 * (2) All remedies in the decision providing that a specified user is "prohibited from reversion of changes which are principally stylistic, except where all style elements are prescribed in the applicable style guideline" are modified by replacing these words with the words "prohibited from reverting the linking or unlinking of dates";
 * (3) All editors whose restrictions are being narrowed are reminded to abide by all applicable policies and guidelines in their editing, so that further controversies such as the one that led to the arbitration case will not arise, and any disagreements concerning style guidelines can be addressed in a civil and efficient fashion;
 * (4) Any party who believes the Date delinking decision should be further amended may file a new request for amendment. To allow time to evaluate the effect of the amendments already made, editors are asked to wait at least 30 days after this motion is passed before submitting any further amendment requests.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Tiptoety  talk 04:11, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Discuss this

AfD nomination of Scroogle
An editor has nominated one or more articles which you have created or worked on, for deletion. The nominated article is Scroogle. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also Notability and "What Wikipedia is not").

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Unblock request 2
Do we infer from your unblock request that you have been editing as an IP while blocked? --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 12:36, 16 November 2009 (UTC)


 * He edited to (among other things) apologize to me for the edit summary that got him blocked, I don't see that as a problem myself. The IP that was used has also made other constructive edits and has not edit-warred. I'd be happy to forgive and forget here, especially since this account is under restrictions to avoid the style guideline conflict that was the source of their most problematic behavior. Tim Vickers (talk) 17:36, 16 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Sure, I'm OK with unblocking. I'll refer Black Kite to this page and we'll go from there. m.o.p  20:31, 16 November 2009 (UTC)


 * If Tim's OK with it, then I am too. Obviously any recurrence of the behaviour that led to the block will mean (etc, etc.). Black Kite 20:50, 16 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Unblocking. Again, if you cross the NPA line or violate policy again, I'm sure that admins won't be as forgiving. Cheers, m.o.p  21:02, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back
Good to see you returning. I hope all goes well for you from here, and if you want to talk, I'm always willing to listen. --RexxS (talk) 21:29, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * +1 Welcome back.  Enigma msg  21:36, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * If you need any more help or advice my talkpage is always open. Tim Vickers (talk) 21:38, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey Kendrick, welcome back to Wikipedia! --William S. Saturn (talk) 01:01, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Wikipedia Watch
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You might want to be careful in calling this vandalism. Clearly it is a good faith edit. Kevin (talk) 05:00, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Reversion on Wikipedia Watch
Excuse me, but this is completely uncalled for. My revert was absolutely not vandalism, and it is highly insulting to be labeled as such. I request that you retract your edit immediately, as not only was it not vandalism, but the paragraph is decidedly not relevant to the article. Glass  Cobra  05:02, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I just came over here to say the same. You reverted a good-faith edit, complete with commentary and labeled it 'vandalism'. Right now, I see four editors (including me) disagreeing with your revert. You know the drill - discuss this on the talk page first, and don't describe edits you don't agree with as 'vandalism'. C'mon - All i e  ❤ 05:09, 22 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I came here to say pretty much the same thing. Please do not call refer to content disagreements as vandalism. Also please do not repeatedly revert other users edits, you can seek consensus on the talk page if you like. Chillum  05:11, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I know vandalism when I see it, and am happy to call it such. -- Kendrick7talk 11:29, 22 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Clearly it would not be appropriate for me to take action; I might appear biased. But it looks as if you have reverted three times here; one more will bring you into conflict with wiki policy. The edits you have reverted were not, in my opinion, vandalism, which seems to be the general view expressed here. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 15:15, 22 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Kendrick7, it is clear that you "know" vandalism even when you see something that is not. Please read through What is not vandalism before accusing another valued editor of vandalism, or simple take the advice of the several people who have come here to explain it to you. Continuing to accuse people of vandalism over what is merely a content disagreement can be seen as disruptive. Chillum  16:08, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * To quote the Bard, I know not seems. -- Kendrick7talk 03:09, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Blocked
I have blocked you for 24 hours for continued use of the phrase "rvv" when reverting good faith edits even after the discussion above. To appeal this block, please add. NW ( Talk ) 03:27, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

IP editing
First of all, let me recognise that you are curently unblocked, and state that I have no problem about that. I asked you if you were editing as an IP while blocked, a question, from your question on my talk-page, you appear not to understand the relevance of. Indeed, you call it an odd question, which it is not. I will explain. When you are blocked, as you were, it is you yourself who are blocked. Not just your username, not just a specified IP, but you. yourself. The person. And editing as an IP while blocked is block evasion, which is not acceptable. I understand from another admin that the IP edits which you made were essentially contributory. They were still, by definition, potentially against wikipedia policy and the unblocking admin has been generous. --Anthony.bradbury</b><sup style="color:black;">"talk" 15:07, 22 November 2009 (UTC)


 * My friend, it is not "cloak and dagger stuff" as you put it; it is an exact description of current wikipedia policy. And you can have as much time for it or as little, as you choose, but in the event of your being blocked again - which I hope will not occur - it is a policy which will be enforced. I am not playing about here, I am trying to persuade you to take note of a serious warning. --<b style="color:red;">Anthony.bradbury</b><sup style="color:black;">"talk" 15:11, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I note your claim to have helped in formulating policies here; I would be interested to know to which ones your refer. Clearly you played no part in formulating the policy on block evasion, which is what you are doing if you edit as an IP during a block imposed for vandalism, as in your recent case. The situation is a little different in the case of a username block, which has not applied to you. --<b style="color:red;">Anthony.bradbury</b><sup style="color:black;">"talk" 18:25, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Please don't do that
When you have recently been blocked for careless reverting, reverting an admin's close of a deletion discussion that you are a heavily invested participant in is not a very good idea. Please don't do it again. Spartaz Humbug! 10:28, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Google Watch
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Daniel Brandt
I have removed your comment from the Google Watch Afd as a gross violation of our policy on living people. If you have any such information, you need to support it with a solid source. Hearsay about living people is not admissible on wikipedia.. And this is me assuming good faith that you do indeed have a source - on reflection, and looking at your contributions to other Brandt-related articles, it is difficult not to think this is deliberate harassment of a living person. You realise if what you've said there is not true, or if you don't have a genuine belief that it is true, then it is most certainly libellous. --Scott Mac (Doc) 11:37, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Kendrick7: You've been around long enough to know not to do stuff like that, as your block log shows. Blocked for a month. ++Lar: t/c 13:51, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * For reference, there is further discussion of this at User_talk:Lar. Note: The block notice and this cross reference should not be removed while the user is blocked. ++Lar: t/c 04:41, 6 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Excuse me, why am I "involved"? Spartaz Humbug! 02:45, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * If I had to guess, I would guess that perhaps the claim is based on you posting User_talk:Kendrick7... however I think most would disagree that makes you involved... I am, since I'm the blocking admin, but you are not. Kendrick7: As I said to Mackan79, if there were reason to believe that you understand what you've done wrong here, and that you undertake not to do it again, your block could be shortened. So far I've seen no sign of that, though. ++Lar: t/c 00:50, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of El caballo del malo
I have nominated El caballo del malo, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/El caballo del malo. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. SchuminWeb (Talk) 19:31, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Please do some research before reverting
Please do not undo the blanking of an AfD without doing any research first. The blanking was requested by an administrator on the English Wikipedia. <b style="color:navy;">NW</b> ( Talk ) 04:00, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Google Watch
Your obsession with the owner of Google Watch is reaching an unacceptable level; you've already been blocked for a month for posting false information about his death (and misconstruing the reason you were blocked as being "for daring to even give question to these deletions"), and you're continuing to engage in policy wonkery over the courtesy blanking of the AfD. Your contributions to the rest of this project are undoubtedly appreciated, but your actions regarding this subject are over the top. Please recuse yourself from the topic of Google/Wikipedia Watch and its owners from this point forward; you've already been informed of the serious gravity of your actions many times, and any more harping on this subject will lead to your indefinite block being reinstated. Fran Rogers (talk) 01:38, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL, well, we'll see. -- Kendrick7talk 05:13, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * FYI, just a friendly note that Fran Rogers is a long established editor whose previous account was discarded for various reasons - many people know who they are, but respect their choices - and not the newbie you obviously think they are. This is academic as regards your less than stellar interaction skills, but I felt you should be aware of the situation. LessHeard vanU (talk) 22:20, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Gee, thanks, Captain Obvious. If he's willing to pretend to be a new comer, I was certainly happy to go along with the ruse. So, that's all the more reason he should know better than to come around trolling on my talk page and making idle threats, right? I don't regard WP:NPA as merely an essay, but I'm perfectly willing to let this incident slide. -- Kendrick7talk 04:38, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Errr, he's a she, Captain Pronoun ^_^ - A l is o n  ❤ 05:29, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Well ...
It's not often we concur on policy matters like this! - A l is o n  ❤ 05:20, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It should probably be pointed out that some have been done as a result of requests to Oversight, where suppression wasn't mandated but blanking was nonetheless seen as being necessary for matters of privacy. It's not strictly correct, therefore, to say 'ArbCom only' or 'community consensus' - A l is o n  ❤ 05:24, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

thanks
On the contrary, moving the bulk of that section to a separate article was a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

I saw you started Guantanamo Bay homicide accusations -- another good idea.

One minor point I will mention -- three of four years ago someone made a bold series of edits, and changed "Guantanamo" to "Guantánamo" everywhere it occurred. This ruffled quite a few feathers. A compromise was reached. We decided to stick to "Guantanamo" for names in English, and to use "Guantánamo" for names in Spanish. So, the Cuban city and province are "Guantánamo".

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 03:45, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
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 * 1) Michael Ben-Yair -

Proposed deletion of Murray Hill Incorporated


The article Murray Hill Incorporated has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Does not meet notability requirements. At this point is a probable violation of WP:SOAP.

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WP:UNDUE
Well... now that you mention it... :>) (see my user talk page). Blueboar (talk) 04:17, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Erasmus
I'm not going to revert you, but "fix circular link" isn't the most honest description for reverting a redirect. Also, note this AfD: Articles for deletion/Erasmus (Dune). Fences &amp;  Windows  22:37, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Heh
Who indeed. :) Gigs (talk) 21:33, 5 March 2010 (UTC)


 * As we've had to revert your "who" edit three times now, I suggest that you may want to join the conversation on the appropriate talk pages instead (as per WP:POINT mentioned earlier). It could be more productive than merely adding an unnecessary tag to pages that are currently being discussed. SpikeJones (talk) 05:25, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello. Just so I'm sure that I understand your comment left on my talk page - you're accusing me of vandalism?SpikeJones (talk) 05:39, 6 March 2010 (UTC)