User talk:Kenjacobsen

The Jet
Please move to discussion on the talkpage, the issue is covered elsewhere, thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 22:21, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Your additions to Mayer
Your edits have been reverted again, rick ross is not considered to be a reliable site to link to on wikipedia, we hope to create a fair balanced article, biographies about living people are especially sensitive and need strong citations, must be written conservatively and not sensationalist and individual issues must not be given undue weight, please take a little time to read and understand these wikipedia policies, WP:BLP and WP:NPOV thanks, please open up a discussion on the article talkpage regarding any queries about policy or content you have. Off2riorob (talk) 18:31, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I've removed the rickross link as requested, replacing it with one from the St Louis Post Dispatch. I hope that's sufficient.

Here are the reasons for my changes, which I added to the discussion page:

First, the original "Post Dispatch retraction and apology" section was particularly misleading. It refers only to articles written in 2005, but they were articles that referred back to a November 2003 article that is not even mentioned, nor is a link to it provided. Yet that 2003 article is the reason for the serious questions about Meyer’s lifestyle and income that are addressed in subsequent sections. The November 2003 article, not the later 2005 articles, is, for example, the source for the information about the “$23,000 commode” that is mentioned in the “Senate investigation” section. It is also the reason Ministry Watch called for an IRS investigation of Meyer’s finances.

The writing as it was left the misleading impression that all St Louis Post Dispatch writings about Meyer were "retracted" from St Louis Post Dispatch, yet the 2003 article was not retracted and is still availabe at the paper's website. On the other hand, the 2005 articles, the only articles that were cited on the page, no longer have any web presence except as reprints on rickross.com. My previous revisions were pulled because they contained a link to rickross.com so I’ve also removed the irrelevant mention of the “retraction” of later articles, which are no longer documented anywhere but on the rickross.com site and never contained any links to provide validation.

People on other sites are citing this misleading wikipedia statement as "proof" that the 2003 St Louis Dispatch article was retracted -it's impossible to argue otherwise since the actual article in question was not even mentioned, nor was a link provided –only the 2005 articles are mentioned.

Also, the mention of the name of an author of the SLPD articles is irrelevant to an article about Joyce Meyer, serves no purpose other than to cause her embarrassment for her “reprimand” and should therefore be removed. Second, the information about Meyer’s income in the Salary and Finances section stated “In January 2004, Meyer announced plans to take a reduced salary in 2004.”[sic] Yet there is no indication anywhere in the page of what her previous income was, so as it is the statement has no context and is therefore meaningless. It is also misleading since it does not indicate that Meyer’s actual income will be increased, rather than cut, by the new arrangement, according to both Wall Watchers and Meyer’s own Public Relations Manager, as quoted by the St Louis Business Journal.

Since the reason cited for removing my changes was the inclusion of a rickross.com link, I’ve revised my changes by replacing the rickross link to a SLPD link. I’ve also shortened the citations from the original St Louis Dispatch article while still including enough information to point out why the article caused the concern about Meyer’s lifestyle and income that are mentioned later on the wikipedia page.

Texas
Nice edits on the Texas page Oldag07 (talk) 14:45, 21 October 2012 (UTC)