User talk:Kennethmyers/PCC

The Wiki Project for a Paleo-Orthodox Neo-Catholic Charismatic Pauline Church
Building on a fantastic start by Kenny, I have added some ideas on church government and holy orders. None of the ideas expressed on this page are sacrosanct. Our parameters are that we must adhere uncompromisingly to the catholic faith of the Undivided Church, and conform our practice and teaching to that espoused by St. Paul and the other apostles. Other parameters may be established as we go along. Citations from the Scriptures and from Holy Tradition are particularly valuable in this project, as we seek to submit our own personal preferences or beliefs to the pattern laid down by the Apostles and early Fathers of the Church. Timotheos 14:45, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Holy Orders
I have proposed functions for the offices of bishop, priest, and deacon that are a markedly different from what the Orthodox, Catholic, and Anglican churches have today. I have proposed functions that hearken back to Ignatius in the 2nd century, as described in detail by Dom Gregory Dix in "The Shape of the Liturgy", pp. 27-35. The bishop serves "the father of the family" of God, and is the almost-exclusive celebrant of Eucharists in all churches, per Ignatius. He is "the watchman" and "guardian" of the church, per Hippolytus. The presbyters on the other hand are the "government" of the church, per Ignatius, Hippolytus, and others. Dix says of the 2nd-3rd century church, "Government is in fact the special province of the corporate Sanhedrin of presbyters of which the bishop is president. He has initiative, leadership, the prestige of his office, and a responsibility for the well-being of the church in every way.  But administrative decisions largely depend upon his carrying most of his presbyters with him… The presbyter is ordained “to share in the presbyterate and govern Thy people in a pure heart,” in concert with the bishop and all his fellow presbyters.  (Apostolic Traditions 8.2)  “Qua presbyter he has no strictly liturgical functions at all, whereas the bishop has almost a liturgical and sacramental monopoly as high-priest of the whole priestly body, the church… The presbyter only acquires liturgical functions by degrees, and then rather as the bishop’s representative than his assistant.”  Only in the 4th century did presbyters begin to become the permanent liturgical minister of a separate congregation from the bishop.

Clearly there is also a case to be made for the more modern construct of the RC, EO, and Anglicans where the bishop supervises many priests who lead parishes across a large diocese. It would be good to see discussion here of the pros and cons of each approach to church organization, with each editor refining the ideas set forth by the others. Timotheos 16:07, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

El Nombre
Te gusta el nombre "CCC"? Me gustan las palabras griegas que has anadido -- gracias! Voy a anadir una nueva seccion sobre Las Doctrinas en el futuro. Timotheos 23:48, 28 August 2006 (UTC)