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Happy editing! Tristario (talk) 01:20, 9 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Just a note, have a look at WP:MINOR, generally if an edit changes the meaning of something (even if it's just a single word) it shouldn't be marked as minor Tristario (talk) 01:22, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for letting me know.
 * Also how do I nominate this one for deletion? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stites_%26_Harbison It doesn't look very worth an article to me.--KentuckyPony (talk) 01:27, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * It took me a while before I started nominating articles for deletion. You can read through WP:AFD which explains the process and what valid grounds for deletion are. When I've nominated articles for deletion I've used WP:TWINKLE, which is quite a useful and easy to use gadget you can enable in your settings, and makes doing it more straightforward (you would need to wait four days from your account creation to use twinkle though, since it requires you to be autoconfirmed, I'd recommend waiting for that since twinkle makes it much easier)
 * In this case you'd want to check whether the topic of the article meets WP:ORG, which is a fairly long page, but it ultimately comes down to whether the subject has significant, non trivial coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources. If you can't find that, then you'd use twinkle to nominate the article for deletion, and in the reason explain that the article fails WP:ORG, and that you've been unable to find sufficient coverage of it to indicate notability Tristario (talk) 05:32, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, that sounds too complicated.--KentuckyPony (talk) 15:16, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Things on wikipedia can seem complicated at first, which is why it's a good idea to just start with simpler things and eventually you'll understand how things work better Tristario (talk) 01:52, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
 * It's not just that. Wikipedia is covering up the shady practices of the company that hurt my grandaughter! Nothing makes sense! One said it wasn't notable but I looked on the talkpage and that decision was made before the newer recall before I could even start writing about the court case. Now some lady called Liz deleted it even more so I can't bring back my contribution about the latest company scandal (fined for lying to the FDA). If a blocked person wrote the article about the president, would they delete the article about the president? I try to help Wikipedia but it turns out to be worth nothing anyway. Al so Wikipedia insists on calling a private ownership aquarium "public" because it is open to the public, making readers think that it's not corporate owned. I don't want to write about anything if it will just get revoked by company censors.--KentuckyPony (talk) 02:10, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I'd recommend reading WP:RGW (which may or may not apply here, but it may be helpful). That article was previously deleted, and you can read about the reasons for that here. The company that I think you're talking about has a subsection in the article Sonova (and it already includes content about wrongdoing by the company), which may be an appropriate place for any content about the company. I'd also be very careful about making any accusations about covering up etc. Such accusations aren't generally helpful to a constructive and collaborative environment, and they might violate wikipedia policies relating to conduct such as this or this.
 * It will be the case that some editors revert your changes for some reason or another, that happens to everyone, although it can be frustrating. You can follow the steps in WP:DISPUTE. Generally, if someone reverts you, you want to follow the steps in WP:BRD, that is, open a discussion on the talk page, and see if you can come to an agreement
 * Like I said this can all seem pretty complicated, so it can be a good idea to just take things slowly until you get the hang of it more and more Tristario (talk) 03:16, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I tried to explain in the edit summary that the 2017 deletion was based on outdated information (years before more recent incidents that gave more media attention). There isn't enough space in the Sonova article to detail the whole history of the company (which used to be part of Boston Scientific, and the re-sale history of the company was a big factor in the quality issues, as described in Sadler v Advanced Bionics, a big local case) - the Advanced Bionics section would be bigger than the rest of the article. So how much am I allowed to add to the Sonova article? Will it be allowed a separate article if it gets too long? I thought the rule was that you can't edit a company page only if you work for the company (I don't, although I did work for Graeters many years ago if I need to declare that to edit them), not if you have negative experience with them. And could information about the company before it was in Sonova be in the Sonova article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KentuckyPony (talk • contribs)
 * I just don't understand why anybody thinks its a good idea to delete so much without discussing it. Anybody who googles the company name can find lots of press. And lots of things that weren't known in 2017 are now famous. Why is there such a hurry to bury it?
 * And why is there a rush to call a corporate-owned aquarium public? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KentuckyPony (talk • contribs)
 * There doesn't seem to be a rush, I think someone just disagreed with that particular edit, perhaps if you talked with them you could come to a compromise. I also wouldn't say there's a rush to delete it, there was a discussion to delete that article (and generally the resulting consensus of a discussion needs to be followed). I'm not sure what the exact process for undeleting an article that was deleted due to deletion discussion is, it may be possible to get the article undeleted. And you are allowed to edit a company's page if you've had a negative experience with them, it's just something to keep in mind, you still want to try to edit in a neutral manner even if that is the case. As for how much you can add to the Sonova article - I'm not sure, it depends on WP:WEIGHT. As for whether you can add content from before they were part of Sonova - I'm also not sure about that, that's a good question. You may be able to find answers for some of the questions at the WP:TEAHOUSE. This is all getting into some tricky territory which I don't fully understand either --Tristario (talk) 03:58, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

I tried to talk to the people but Liz hasn't responded to my question and the talkpage of the article is now gone! Nobody wants to discuss, everyone just wants to delete delete delete! I'm not even sure if it's alright for me to edit articles about the 108, since I am Catholic and part Polish. Will those articles be deleted too if I edit them?--KentuckyPony (talk) 15:59, 10 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Being catholic and part polish isn't a conflict of interest (although as always you want to try to edit things in a neutral manner). Those won't be deleted for you editing them, unless there happens to be a legitimate reason to delete them (but I think that's probably unlikely for most of those articles) Tristario (talk) 21:59, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Advanced Bionics (May 12)
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S0091 (talk) 16:38, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

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