User talk:Keokani

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April 2012
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Military Occupation of Hawaii
Hawaii is not occupied militarily. Your insistence otherwise is ridiculous. You clearly do not understand what military occupation is. Please refrain from trying to insert your personal/political agenda into Wikipedia. It is not the proper forum for that. --189.122.201.52 (talk) 15:01, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at List of military occupations, you may be blocked from editing without further notice.

The burden of proof is on you to rebut the presumption of the de jure Hawaiian Kingdom's continued sovereignty over the Hawaiian Islands. In 1993, the U.S. formally acknowledged that there is no treaty of cession, plebiscite, or referendum to legally transfer sovereignty to the United States. All 49 U.S. states have a treaty of cession. Texas has the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, for example. If a treaty of cession was not needed for annexation, the U.S. would not have made two failed attempts to obtain one for Hawai'i, nor would U.S. Congress have passed U.S. Public Law 103-150 in 1993. Furthermore, case law precedent does not support the transfer of Hawaiian sovereignty to the United States through acquisitive prescription, which is the passage of time similar to adverse possession. The abundant history of protest in the Hawaiian Kingdom, against foreign takeover, forever negates this claim. Finally, 25% of the Hawaiian Islands is currently occupied by U.S. military bases.

January 2014
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Thank you.  Erpert  WHAT DO YOU WANT??? 07:57, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Disruptive editing
You haven't made your case for the inclusion of Hawaii as a State under military occupation. You feel that no one else has made their case. That's fine. But we are kind of slipping into an editing war and it's time for that to stop. A request for a third opinion was made and you disagree with that. What I would like to ask you to consider is mediation as per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RFM to formally end this dispute. 198.45.184.25 (talk) 05:44, 19 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I have no problem leaving Hawaii up in the article during the mediation. If you wouldn't mind however to make that request on the articles talk page and also acknowledge that you have opted to use wp:rfm to attempt to resolve this so that is known to everyone. Your assertions that the others should be removed before Hawaii is however is way off base. While they should certainly be sourced with reliable sources to remain there is no reason they should be removed before Hawaii is. If you have in contention to their inclusion you should make it known on that articles talk page and allow others time to respond in kind. Fair? I'd ask if this was political in nature but I'll assume in good faith that it is not.198.45.184.25 (talk) 07:12, 19 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Actually now that you mention it other inclusions seem to need to be removed. If you will allow me to refer you to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_dispute which is a border dispute or territorial dispute between China, Pakistan, and India. Gaza is recognized as independent of Israel where the lands in the Kashmir dispute are independent of neither of the 3 countries involved.198.45.184.25 (talk) 07:47, 19 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I understand your rationale for that case.

Thank you for your consideration. I just made the mediation request known on the article talk page, as per your suggestion. I understand your point about contesting the inclusion of other states on the list. However, would it be fair for me to delete a listing without providing reliable sources? I will respect the decision of the mediation committee as the final say in this dispute. Justice, the legal status of the Hawaiian Islands, and the lawful de-occupation process is my motivation. It is not a political issue to me. Keokani (talk) 07:41, 19 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I didn't know if it sends you a message or not when someone is talking to you. The mediators have responded to you directly with a request: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/List_of_military_occupations#Issues_to_be_mediated 198.45.184.25 (talk) 12:06, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

I get the messages here. I'm assuming the same will happen for the mediation page. I'll check it each day, regardless. Keokani (talk) 18:22, 19 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Just to allow you to know, I removed the Hawaiian Kingdom. I did so though only after concluding that you were backing out of mediation. So goes the mediation, so goes the agreement not to edit the page accordingly. On a personal level I think that people should be allowed a peaceful self determination. Whether that's Texas secession or the belief that Hawaii never could have legally become a state or even the Vermont republic and the Lakota Republic. I'm not fan of Texas v. White. People shouldn't have to go to war or contend with the tyranny of Majority to get out of this compact of States. There need be a system to do this peacefully. My reason for removing it is the same as it always has been however. Wikipedia policy. I thought you might want to know. Respectfully, 198.45.184.25 (talk) 12:48, 21 January 2014 (UTC)