User talk:Kerry Raymond/Archive 14

Category:Aboriginal Shire of Kowanyama has been nominated for deletion
Category:Aboriginal Shire of Kowanyama has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:57, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Merger discussion for City of Swan Hill
An article that you have been involved in editing&mdash;City of Swan Hill&mdash;has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Jonathan O&#39;Donnell (talk) 23:55, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Discussion regarding Sapphire, Queensland move
Wondering why the name change for Sapphire? The previous title was correct. The town name is Sapphire, and it is located in Central Queensland, but I have never come across anywhere it has been called Sapphire Central. Cheers, --FNQ (talk) 09:23, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The Qld Govt have introduced 3 new localities, one of which is Sapphire Central which includes the town of Sapphire (see ). I am working my way through the creation and updates to the Wikipedia articles now but I am not finished yet. Kerry (talk) 09:29, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I have now added the explanation and the citaitons for the change. Kerry (talk) 09:35, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. Very unusual. --FNQ (talk) 09:43, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Category:North Tamworth, New South Wales has been nominated for deletion
Category:North Tamworth, New South Wales has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:36, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Category:Armidale Dumaresq Shire has been nominated for merging
Category:Armidale Dumaresq Shire has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:44, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Australian biography related draft
Hi as per information at WP:AFC/RBS, I would like to draw your attention to Draft:Devon Minchin which you might be interested to review. Thank you. ~ Amkgp 💬  09:54, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

William Aplin
Kerry,

Thankyou for editing my amplification of William Aplin. I wasn't sure how to note its publication but as I didn't change its meaning I chose the small edit button. You have done a good job adding all those hyperlinks. I've still got to add a few newspaper citations from Trove to William Aplin but it all takes time.

By the way I was downgraded in wiki to editor which I don't understand after having artist Maude Haydon published. As I have some good biographies to add to wikipedia, including one of Australia's leading civil engineers of the 19th century, I'm not sure how I go about the process.

Regards (1stAug (talk) 11:20, 28 July 2020 (UTC))

Message from Margaret using VE
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Message from LP
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Hi, there! Kerry (talk) 01:38, 11 August 2020 (UTC) Using the template for ping in VE. MargaretRDonald (talk) 01:45, 11 August 2020 (UTC) Here is my response. I don't need to ping. LPascal (talk) 01:43, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

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Editing news 2020 #4
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Reply tool


The Reply tool  has been available as a Beta Feature at the Arabic, Dutch, French and Hungarian Wikipedias since 31 March 2020. The first analysis showed positive results.


 * More than 300 editors used the Reply tool at these four Wikipedias. They  posted more than 7,400 replies during the study period.
 * Of the people who posted a comment with the Reply tool, about 70% of them used the tool multiple times. About 60% of them used it on multiple days.
 * Comments from Wikipedia editors are positive. One said, أعتقد أن الأداة تقدم فائدة ملحوظة؛ فهي تختصر الوقت لتقديم رد بدلًا من التنقل بالفأرة إلى وصلة تعديل القسم أو الصفحة، التي تكون بعيدة عن التعليق الأخير في الغالب، ويصل المساهم لصندوق التعديل بسرعة باستخدام الأداة.  ("I think the tool has a significant impact; it saves time to reply while the classic way is to move with a mouse to the Edit link to edit the section or the page which is generally far away from the comment. And the user reaches to the edit box so quickly to use the Reply tool.")

The Editing team released the Reply tool as a Beta Feature at eight other Wikipedias in early August. Those Wikipedias are in the Chinese, Czech, Georgian, Serbian, Sorani Kurdish, Swedish, Catalan, and Korean languages. If you would like to use the Reply tool at your wiki, please tell User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF).

The Reply tool is still in active development. Per request from the Dutch Wikipedia and other editors, you will be able to customize the edit summary. (The default edit summary is "Reply".) A "ping" feature is available in the Reply tool's visual editing mode. This feature searches for usernames. Per request from the Arabic Wikipedia, each wiki will be able to set its own preferred symbol for pinging editors. Per request from editors at the Japanese and Hungarian Wikipedias, each wiki can define a preferred signature prefix in the page MediaWiki:Discussiontools-signature-prefix. For example, some languages omit spaces before signatures. Other communities want to add a dash or a non-breaking space.

New requirements for user signatures

 * The new requirements for custom user signatures began on 6 July 2020. If you try to create a custom signature that does not meet the requirements, you will get an error message.
 * Existing custom signatures that do not meet the new requirements will be unaffected temporarily . Eventually, all custom signatures will need to meet the new requirements. You can check your signature and see lists of active editors whose custom signatures need to be corrected.  Volunteers have been contacting editors who need to change their custom signatures.  If you need to change your custom signature, then please read the help page.

Next: New discussion tool
Next, the team will be working on a tool for quickly and easily starting a new discussion section to a talk page. To follow the development of this new tool, please put the New Discussion Tool project page on your watchlist.

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Growth team newsletter 14
Welcome to the fourteenth newsletter from the Growth team!

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

Success with guidance
We deployed the "Guidance" feature on June 15.

This feature uses the help panel to explain what to do after selecting a suggested edit. For instance, if a newcomer selects a copyedit task, they are guided on what sorts of errors to look for. They can see examples of how to rewrite the text. You can try this feature on test.wikipedia.org. First enable the homepage and the help panel in your preferences there.

Since we launched "Guidance", the data we collected show good results (see image). Now, we see more users completing suggested edits than before Guidance was deployed.

Structured tasks
Structured tasks is a project that aims to break down editing workflows into a series of steps. We hope newcomers can accomplish these tasks easily.

In the previous newsletter, we asked for feedback from community members on the idea. We had a good discussion in six languages with 35 community members (summary here). We have now posted new design mockups. We hope community members can check the mockups out and react to them (in any language). They are posted along with some of the main questions we are thinking about as we continue to refine our plans.

Other technical updates



 * We are currently working on Variants C and D (adjacent image) of the homepage. The goal is to increase the number of newcomers who start the newcomer tasks workflow. This is the team's main project at the moment.
 * We've made it easier to hide the help panel when not needed.
 * The welcome survey has a new question for people who created their account: language skills. The goal is to find out how many newcomers know multiple languages, so that we can learn whether it is a good idea to integrate Content Translation as a newcomer task. To make room for this question, we removed one that is not being used.

Community outreach

 * We continue to engage with more communities. We recently deployed the Growth features to Persian, Hebrew, and Russian Wikipedias. Learn more about getting the features.
 * If your community is having a remote event, and you are interested in hearing from the Growth team, please contact us! We have already participated to two community events online:
 * The Polish Wikiconference (recording on Google Drive)
 * The Celtic Knot 2020 (video available on Youtube).

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Because you thanked me
09:02, 22 September 2020 (UTC) Bekkadn (talk) 08:15, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for September 24
An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Burleigh Heads, Queensland, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Sisters of the Immaculate Conception.

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 09:26, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Geo-referencing and Thanks
First - thanks for the (many) thanks!

I am just wondering are aware of the Geo-referencing abilities of QGIS to find coordinate from scanned maps (rather than cross referencing with current day maps)?

There is some nice documentation on the QGIS site: https://docs.qgis.org/testing/en/docs/training_manual/forestry/map_georeferencing.html https://docs.qgis.org/testing/en/docs/user_manual/working_with_raster/georeferencer.html#defining-the-transformation-settings

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New Page Patrol
Hi Kerry Raymond. Based on your experience at Articles for Creation and because you have the autopatrol permission, I have added you to the " " user group for three months. Please check back at WP:PERM if you would like to make it permanent. This user group allows you to review new pages through the Curation system and mark them as patrolled, tag them for maintenance issues, or nominate them for deletion. The list of articles awaiting review is located at the New Pages Feed. New page reviewing is vital to maintaining the integrity of the encyclopedia. The culture around NPP is a bit different than AFC. So, before doing any new page patrols you need read the tutorial at New Pages Review, the linked guides and essays, and fully understand the deletion policy. If you need any help or want to discuss the process, you are welcome to use the new page reviewer talk page. In addition, please remember: The reviewer right does not change your status or how you can edit articles. If you no longer want this user right, you also may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. In cases of abuse or persistent inaccuracy of reviewing, or long-term inactivity, the right may be withdrawn at administrator discretion. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:06, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Be nice to new editors. They are usually not aware that they are doing anything wrong. Do make use of the message feature when tagging  pages for  maintenance so  that  they are aware.
 * You will frequently be asked by users to explain why their page is being deleted. Please be formal and polite in your approach to them – even if they are not.
 * If you are not sure what to do with a page, don't review it – just leave it for another reviewer.
 * Accuracy is more important than speed. Take your time to patrol each page. Use the message feature to communicate with article creators and offer advice as much as possible.
 * This allows you to "unreview" an accepted article from AFC to allow a second look while in mainspace. To do this simply click the green check after accepting an article from AFC.

Navboxes
Hey, so I would kindly appreciate a response on the thread that you started on the electorate navboxes - particularly since you’ve since contributed to other threads on the same WikiProject page since I gave my response, and you have so far completely ignored my ping specifically asking for an alternative. I worked damn hard on updating those navboxes, and the least that can be done is to dignify what I said with a response. Thescrubbythug (talk) 10:25, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Please don't assume things about me; feel free to ask me. I wasn't ignoring your ping. I am waiting for more people to respond. A lot of people aren't on Wikipedia every day so we need to wait a while to see what the consensus might be when people have had a chance to comment on your approach, before deciding if we need to consider other alternatives. I am conscious of the fact that you did a lot of work; I'm an experienced editor; I do know how much work was involved. I was well aware that you probably wouldn't be very happy which is why I was trying to be very careful to follow the procedural guidelines (BRD, build consensus, etc) to do the right thing by you. But the guidelines do suggest discussion first might be a good idea with templates because of the impact they have on so many articles. And you were modifying an Qld electoral template to add party information in the run-up to the Qld state election, which is a time when I think we need to be a little extra cautious due to the real-world democractic process, which is why I think your change should be remain reverted on that specific template no matter what we decide. Kerry (talk) 00:15, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Because you thanked me
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Thanks for the thanks
Hi Kerry. Thanks for the thanks and I hope you are well in these unique times. I was trying to think of which editor had a specific interest in Queensland and helped me with a cricketer's bio in the past, and I couldn't think who it was! Apologies, must be my age :D Anyway, your ping helped to recall that, and this month I've been working on completing the redlinks from the List of Queensland first-class cricketers. My full list of creations is here, and for Queensland it starts with Tom Allen (cricketer). If any stand out and can be expanded, that would be appreicated. Thanks again.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 06:45, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I am the last person to ask about sports people (I don't really follow sport) so any help I gave must have been more a generic skill such as locating sources. But if I see any sources, I'll draw your attention to them. Kerry (talk) 06:50, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Category:Moreton Bay penal settlement has been nominated for deletion
Category:Moreton Bay penal settlement has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:11, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Growth team updates #15
Welcome to the fifteenth newsletter from the Growth team!

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

Variants C and D deployed
Variants C and D are two new arrangements of the newcomer homepage. We hope they will increase the number of users using suggested edits. They both make suggested edits the clear place where newcomers should get started on the page. They have some differences in their workflows, because we want to test which design is better. We deployed these variants on October 19; half of newcomers get each variant. After about 5 weeks, we will analyze the data from the tests. The goal is to determine which variant is helping more newcomers to make more suggested edits. We will identify the better variant and then use it with all newcomers.

Structured tasks: add a link
As we discussed in previous newsletters, the team is working on our first "structured task": the "add a link" task. After community discussion on design ideas, we ran user tests on the mobile designs. We decided on the design concept we want to use moving forward: Concept A. We're now engineering the backend for this feature. Next, we will be running user tests for desktop designs.

Learn more about the findings.

Community news

 * We recently deployed the Growth features to Polish, Portuguese, Swedish and Turkish Wikipedias. 18 wikis now have Growth features. Learn more about getting the features.
 * Have you recently checked if all interface messages are translated for your language?

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Category:Nagoorin, Queensland has been nominated for deletion
Category:Nagoorin, Queensland has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:23, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Category:Ubobo, Queensland has been nominated for deletion
Category:Ubobo, Queensland has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:23, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Category:Boyne Valley, Queensland has been nominated for deletion
Category:Boyne Valley, Queensland has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:25, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Turrbal
Hi Kerry, thanks for ensuring that Wikipedia's neutrality of point of view is upheld with regard to the Turrbal and Jagera claims of being the traditional owners of Brisbane. So as to not deny the Turrbal people of their identity and right to self-determination, a neutral phrasing would be "The Turrbal are an Aboriginal Australian people who consider themselves to be the original custodians of present-day Brisbane, Queensland". This consideration is corroborated by the Turrbal people themselves (see here) and by Petrie & Petrie's Tom Petries reminiscences of early Queensland (dating from 1837). This wording appears to solve the problem as it doesn't imply a claim of any sort over another, but merely states the position of the Turrbal people.


 * Yes, this would be much better, but I still think it probably needs some additional commentary that this is not beyond dispute (Neutral Point of View requires this). So I think it has to go to say ", but the Jagera people also make claims to traditional ownership of parts of the Brisbane area." (or words to that effect with some suitable citation). Similarly the Jagera people article should make corresponding information (what they claim and what others counter-claim). I note this confirms both groups did make native title claims over Brisbane, which, despite being unsuccessful in relation to native title, did confirm that both groups had "Aboriginal party status" (whatever that precisely means!) in relation to Brisbane with some maps showing some detail, which appears to me (and I don't pretend to be an expert in these matters) that both have ""Aboriginal party status" in relation to southern parts of Brisbane. Kerry (talk) 09:19, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

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Growth team updates #16
Welcome to the sixteenth newsletter from the Growth team!

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

Growth features show impact
Newcomer task experiments results

The team recently published our analysis of the impact of newcomer tasks. We are happy to announce that we found that the Growth features, and particularly newcomer tasks, lead to increased editing from newcomers.

In November 2019, the Growth team added the "newcomer tasks" feature to the newcomer homepage. After six months, we collected data from Arabic, Vietnamese, Czech, and Korean Wikipedias. We analyzed the overall impact of the Growth features, including newcomer tasks.

This analysis finds that the Growth features lead to increases in: We also find that the quality of their edits, as measured by revert rate, is comparable to that of a control group.
 * the probability that newcomers make their first article edit (+11.6%)
 * the probability that they are retained as editors
 * the number of edits they make during their first couple of weeks on the wiki (+22%)

Because of these results, we think all Wikipedias should consider implementing these features. Learn more about how to get them.

You can find more details about this experiment on the report page. Please post any feedback or questions on the talk page

General metrics

As of November 2020, across all wikis where the features have been deployed:
 * more than 5,000 newcomers have made more than 40,000 edits using Newcomer tasks.
 * more than 14,000 questions have been sent to volunteer mentors by more than 11,000 users.
 * more than 2,000 questions have been asked on help desks by more than 1,500 users.

Learn more about Growth results here, and please post any feedback or questions on the talk page.

Variants C and D
Variants C and D are two new arrangements of the newcomer homepage. We deployed them in October. After six weeks of these variants being deployed, we can see that they have led to increased interactions with newcomer tasks. Next, we will determine which variant is best and use that for all newcomers.

News for mentors
A separate list for workshops hosts

During workshops organized by education programs through the communities, workshops hosts like to mentor people they train on wiki. Several wikis requested to have a way to claim their mentees without having other newcomers being randomly being assigned to them. To address this need, a separate list can be created on wiki, for mentors that wish to claim mentees, but prefer not to have random mentees being assigned to them. Learn more about this feature.

Claiming multiple mentees at once

Mentors can use to claim a newcomer as their mentee. The feature now allows mentors to claim multiple newcomers at once.

Community news
The help panel allows people to post a message to the local help desk while editing. Previously, the tool always posted messages to the bottom of help desks. Wikis are now able to configure it to display new messages at the top of the help desk page. T261714

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New Page Patrol December Newsletter
Hello ,



It has been a productive year for New Page Patrol as we've roughly cut the size of the New Page Patrol queue in half this year. We have been fortunate to have a lot of great work done by who was the reviewer of the most pages and redirects this past year. Thanks and credit go to and  who join Rosguill in repeating in the top 10 from last year. Thanks to, , and who all got the NPR permission this year and joined the top 10. Also new to the top ten is DannyS712 bot III, programmed by which has helped to dramatically reduce the number of redirects that have needed human patrolling by patrolling certain types of redirects (e.g. for differences in accents) and by also patrolling editors who are on on the redirect whitelist.
 * Year in review

has been named reviewer of the year for 2020. John has held the permission for just over 6 months and in that time has helped cut into the queue by reviewing more than 18,000 articles. His talk page shows his efforts to communicate with users, upholding NPP's goal of nurturing new users and quality over quantity.
 * Reviewer of the Year

As a special recognition and thank you has been awarded the first NPP Technical Achievement Award. His work programming the bot has helped us patrol redirects tremendously - more than 60,000 redirects this past year. This has been a large contribution to New Page Patrol and definitely is worthy of recognition.
 * NPP Technical Achievement Award

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Your contributed article, Samuel Grimes (Politician)


Hello, I noticed that you recently created a new page, Samuel Grimes (Politician). First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page – Samuel Grimes. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Samuel Grimes. If you have new information to add, you might want to discuss it at the article's talk page.

If you think the article you created should remain separate, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Additionally if you would like to have someone review articles you create before they go live so they are not nominated for deletion shortly after you post them, allow me to suggest the article creation process and using our search feature to find related information we already have in the encyclopedia. Try not to be discouraged. Wikipedia looks forward to your future contributions. Spiderone 11:53, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I think you are contacting the wrong person. I created Samuel Grimes some years ago. I did not recently create Samuel Grimes (Politician). Kerry (talk) 01:25, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Apologies. I put the tag on the wrong article by accident as a vandal had hijacked the article. It's all been sorted now, thankfully. Spiderone  10:26, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

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Colinton, Queensland
Hello. Thank you for your edits. The Colinton, Queensland page has popped up here: Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls. Issue seems to be in the "pop", "postcode", and "area" parameters. I'd fix myself, but I'm not certain which are the correct values. You might want to take a look. Cheers, Scottyoak2 (talk) 04:40, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Everglades, Leura
Hi Kerry. I think Everglades, Leura and Everglades Gardens are the same thing, if you agree could you merge them? I saw your edits to the first article in 2018. They both link to the same Commons category. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 16:02, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * One for you? Kerry (talk) 19:29, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Articles merged from Everglades Gardens to Everglades, Leura, with appropriate redirects put in place on both the article and talk pages. Thanks so much for the pick up, Mike. HNY to all. Rangasyd (talk) 11:06, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Mike Peel (talk) 11:17, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Request for help
Hi Kerry, and happy new year. When you have some time, could you use your knowledge of how State Heritage websites work to post the NSW Government listing here to the corresponding article, Drummond Battery? Or is this just a matter of copying and pasting? - if so, I suspect I can manage! Thanks, Nick-D (talk) 00:09, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I have machine-generated the wikitext and done a very light copyedit resulting in User:Kerry Raymond/Fort Drummond. Feel free to do what you want with it. Note that the wikilinks are machine-generated so do double-check they go to something sensible. Kerry (talk) 05:16, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Many thanks Kerry - I've just posted this. I wish that I'd read the NSW heritage listing before visiting the site in August, as I missed a key part of it which is located a few streets away! Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:22, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks and small correction
I've just been tracing the back-and-forth in the page history at Daniel Mannix over how to describe the royal visits by Edward VII and George V to Maynooth College. Thanks for the edit here that simplified matters. I also went back to the original source, and I did notice that the date you put in was wrong for the Edward VII visit, so I corrected that here. Apologies if the edit summary comes across as grumpy, but that had me confused for a few minutes. :-) Carcharoth (talk) 15:38, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 * No worries. As I know nothing about Daniel Mannix, anything I added would have had to come from the sources, so the date error would be a typo on my part. Kerry (talk) 19:16, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Wamuran
Hi Kerry : one of your edits from 2019 on Wamuran, Queensland did not have a proper reference quoted. Are you able to supply something related to the local Aboriginal man Menvil Wamuran? Matilda Maniac (talk) 14:40, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for picking this up. I did supply a citation, but there's a bug/feature in the Visual Editor which renames citations with an additional number "2" "3" etc if a citation of the name already exists rather than reusing it. I was trying to reuse the citation named qpnt but the Visual Editor renamed my use qptn2 (because it isn't sure if I am re-using the existing citation or introducing a new one and it doesn't ask). Whenever you see a "broken citation" ending in a small number, just removing the number will usually solve the problem. Kerry (talk) 02:31, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Editing news 2021 #1
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Reply tool
The Reply tool  is available at most other Wikipedias.


 * The Reply tool has been deployed as an opt-out preference to all editors at the Arabic, Czech, and Hungarian Wikipedias.
 * It is also available as a Beta Feature at almost all Wikipedias except for the English, Russian, and German-language Wikipedias. If it is not available at your wiki, you can request it by following these simple instructions.

Research notes:


 * As of January 2021, more than 3,500 editors have used the Reply tool to post about 70,000 comments.
 * There is preliminary data from the Arabic, Czech, and Hungarian Wikipedia on the Reply tool. Junior Contributors who use the Reply tool are more likely to publish the comments that they start writing than those who use full-page wikitext editing.
 * The Editing and Parsing teams have significantly reduced the number of edits that affect other parts of the page. About 0.3% of edits did this during the last month. Some of the remaining changes are automatic corrections for Special:LintErrors.
 * Венов_дијаграм.svg A large A/B test will start soon. This is part of the process to offer the Reply tool to everyone.  During this test, half of all editors at 24 Wikipedias (not including the English Wikipedia) will have the Reply tool automatically enabled, and half will not. Editors at those Wikipeedias can still turn it on or off for their own accounts in Special:Preferences.

New discussion tool
The new tool for starting new discussions (new sections) will join the Discussion tools in Special:Preferences at the end of January. You can try the tool for yourself. You can leave feedback in this thread or on the talk page.

Next: Notifications
During Talk pages consultation 2019, editors said that it should be easier to know about new activity in conversations they are interested in. The Notifications project is just beginning. What would help you become aware of new comments? What's working with the current system? Which pages at your wiki should the team look at? Please post your advice at mw:Talk:Talk pages project/Notifications.

–Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 01:02, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 January 2021
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George Poynter Heath
Well done on George Poynter Heath. I see you are not doing any Did you know, mind if I push it there? (I noticed it since I was the one who wrote all those lighthouse articles) --Muhandes (talk) 11:16, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Feel free to do so. Kerry (talk) 11:27, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Here we go, hopefully it gets there and gets some more exposure. I'd be happy to assist in the nomination process for any future new page or 5x expansion you do, feel free to drop a line. --Muhandes (talk) 10:01, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Kowanyama, Queensland
Hi Kerry. This afternoon this popped up on my watchlist with something I do not understand. At the top is a new box which contains a line "Download coordinates as: KML · GPX" If I click on the KML I am asked what I want to use to load .KML files - I have no idea but when clicking on the GPX, I get 404. "That’s an error. The requested URL /kml2gpx/http%3A%2F%2Ftools.wmflabs.org%2Fkmlexport%3Farticle%3DKowanyama%252C_Queensland?gpx=1 was not found on this server. That’s all we know." I have also just encountered it on Koumala, Queensland which I was editing for the Phoenix Auctions exercise. What is this about? Cheers Fleet Lists (talk) 04:02, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Hmm, that seems to be a bug in the template or some problem with the external service. I'll report it (I'm not involved with the development of that template). I don't personally use the download options in it. I use the OpenStreetMap option to view the coords on a map. It's easy to copy coords wrongly and that becomes immediately visible on a map (e.g. seeing some coord in the northern hemisphere or in the Indian Ocean isn't what you expect in a Qld article) so I use it to find my coord errors. Kerry (talk) 04:30, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 February 2021
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Growth team newsletter #17


Welcome to the seventeenth newsletter from the Growth team!

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

Structured tasks
Add a link: the team is continuing to engineer on our first "structured task", which will break down the workflow of adding wikilinks to articles, and assist newcomers with an algorithm to identify words and phrases that could be made into links.

Add an image: even as we build our first structured task, we have been thinking about the next one. "Add an image" is a structured task in which newcomers would be recommended images from Wikimedia Commons to add to unillustrated articles. This is an ambitious idea with many details to consider. We have already learned a lot from community members, and we encourage everyone to look at the project page and join the discussion.

Moving forward: more wikis to get the features
Last November, our team published the analysis of the impact of newcomer tasks. We announced that we found that the Growth features, and particularly newcomer tasks, lead to increased editing from newcomers. Because of these results, we believe all Wikipedias should implement these features.

We have started to contact more wikis to deploy the features, including Wikipedias of all sizes. Bengali Wikipedia recently began using Growth features, and Danish, Thai, Indonesian, and Romanian Wikipedias will be coming soon. Please contact us if you have questions regarding deployment.

We are looking for translators who can help by translating the interface. Translating is done on Translatewiki.net (it requires a different account that your Wikimedia one). Communities that already have the Growth features being deployed are invited to check on the translations. Access translations here.

Variant testing
As mentioned in our previous newsletter, we ran a test of two variants of the newcomer homepage, meant to find a version that increases users completing suggested edits. We have completed the experiment, and learned that one of the variants leads to more edits on desktop while the other leads to more edits on mobile. Therefore, we will deploy the strongest variants for each platform to all newcomers.

News for mentors
Mentor dashboard: we have interviewed mentors from several communities as we plan a mentor dashboard feature, which would help mentors track the progress of their mentees. We encourage all mentors to share their thoughts on tools that would help them.

Magic word for mentors: it is now possible to use a magic word, , to display the name of a given newcomer's mentor. This can be used on welcome messages, userboxes, etc.

Help panel questions going to mentors: in most wikis, newcomers using the help panel ask questions to the help desk. On Czech Wikipedia, we have experimented with sending these questions to mentors instead. This simplifies the newcomer experience, and only led to a increase in mentorship questions of about 30%. We tried this in Arabic, Bengali, French and Vietnamese Wikipedias, and we are making it the default experience.

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DYK for George Poynter Heath
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