User talk:Kerry Raymond/Archive 18

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Growth team newsletter #29
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Brisbane edit
I should have probably used a clearer edit summary, but what I meant was that before my edit the stats were reflective only of 2022 data (which had a precipitation of 2036mm. I changed the stats to a 25 year Australian BOM mean as cited in the climate subsection. I apologise for any misunderstanding.  VickKiang  (talk)  11:58, 27 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks for clarifying. Unfortunately that article gets a lot of problematic edits, so I tend to be on high alert. Kerry (talk) 23:03, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

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Shute Harbour.
Hi Kerry, I recently updated the Shute Hbr Wiki as the info provided was extremely outdated. I am curious to know why you removed the text I provided which according to the Wiki history was tagged as inappropriate, when I think it was not only accurate but provide useful information. As a 32 year resident of the Whitsundays, and working as a local Tour Guide, I am constantly encouraging people to visit Shute Hbr and I think the facts I supplied would be very beneficial to those who would want to visit. Why did you think it needed to be deleted? Mr Patrick Wells (talk) 14:12, 11 February 2024 (UTC)


 * There were two issues. The first and foremost was the lack of citations for the content you added and the second was the somewhat promotional tone of the information added about the new terminal (and it was a bit excessive, airconditioned lounge, etc) and "Contact the Whitsunday Regional Council for bookings and enquiries" which sounded more like what you write in advertising copy tahn in an encyclopedia. Please feel welcome to add content to the article but try to take a less promotional tone and please include citations. Kerry (talk) 01:27, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

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Invitation to join New pages patrol
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Your move of Template:RJL from article to talk in George Street, Brisbane
Hi Kerry, Template:RJL is intended to be applied to articles, not talk pages. There are approx 2300 pages where this is the case. Changing one is probably not a good idea, particularly as it will no longer appear on “missing”” lists. Cheers, John Downsize43 (talk) 07:02, 29 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Ok, I've restored it. Kerry (talk) 09:36, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

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for the record
I inherited a copy of wragges weather guide book from my fathers collection, and have a scan of the front page which I hope to put into the article - I note that the NLA has a scanned copy as well, thanks for your improving the article! JarrahTree 00:28, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Kelvinhaugh (disambiguation)


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New Pages Patrol newsletter April 2024
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Backlog update: The October drive reduced the article backlog from 11,626 to 7,609 and the redirect backlog from 16,985 to 6,431! Congratulations to, who led with over 2,300 points.

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Proposed deletion of United Prosperity (organisation)


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Listen Out Merger
What's the status of your proposed merger of the two versions of listen Out? Its been over a month.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 10:44, 15 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I should have replied to you here as well as Talk:Listen Out. Short answer is that now you have done the good work of merging of the text, I have merged the articles. If you see any problems, let me know. Kerry (talk) 06:41, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Growth News, April 2024


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Experiment Results
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The Growth team conducted an experiment to assess the impact of the “Add an Image” structured task on the Newcomer Homepage's "Suggested Edits" module. This analysis finds that the Add an Image structured task leads to an increase in newcomer participation on the mobile web platform, particularly by making constructive (non-reverted) article edits:


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Measurements
Hi Kerry, please don't adjust and revert any changes from the measurements, from GPO to CBD. They are based on mechanical books. They are what the accommodation industry are based on. The most common books being Brisway map books. These are used by the motoring and caravan groups to indicate national and international accommodation guides and literature. Thank you for your contributions across QLD, though please be mindful of the local values before editing. Some industries rely on the specific information. Usertodjdj (talk) 03:31, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
 * The convention that has been established over many years is that places within City of Brisbane have distances measured relative to the Brisbane GPO. Places beyond that in QLD are measured relative to Brisbane CBD and "Brisbane CBD" is explicitly named in the location field of the infobox of places in the neighbouring local government areas due to some past confusion (probably vandalism) where some people chose to believe that distance to the boundary of the City of Brisbane was more useful rather than to its centre (more useful if you are selling real estate perhaps!). Being consistent is important so people can use the data for comparison. I note we normally use online mapping sevices like Google Maps for distances in the infobox. My edit was simply to bring Petrie, Queensland into line with that convention, as there is no rationale for it being any different to the other suburbs of the City of Moreton Bay as it doesn't allow for meaningful comparison with other suburbs in that LGA. Kerry (talk) 23:59, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
 * My point is that the industries, including accommodation, mechanical and industrial industries have been established for decades under that system. These measurements have also been in place for many years. It would literally affect the industries and businesses negatively to adjust that. You'll find it is the same in other Brisbane suburbs, like Underwood. This is also because people are still using these motor association books from not only QLD, but also from interstate. The information is indicative. Please have some understanding for the GPO convention where applicable. It would cause hotels and other businesses to shut down without this information. I work in these communities so I am aware of the community standards and conventions. It can be used in comparison to suggest that these communities are servicing motor related industries. It's not an appropriate time to adjust the measurements system as yet. Usertodjdj (talk) 23:38, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * My point is that these measurements systems have been used for decades. Industries and businesses, such as hotels, mechanics and other businesses would be negatively impacted by adjusting the system. It would literally shut down businesses to adjust that. It's indicative that these communities are servicing the motor industries. You'll find that it is the same for other suburbs, such as Underwood. It's indicative of the motor association and insurance books that are used in QLD and interstate. Then there is also Supercheap head office in these communities. So it is used as a comparison base. It's important and necessary to retain this system where possible. It's critical to retain the system where it's required. I've worked in and with these communities for decades, so I am aware of the importance and the community standards and expectations. Usertodjdj (talk) 23:53, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * If people and industries want to use their traditional information sources and favourite measurement systems, they are free to do so (nobody is forced to read Wikipedia). Wikipedia is an encyclopedia; it is not a street directory, an accommodation guide, nor a list of mechanical and industrial services in Petrie (see "What Wikipedia is not). Kerry (talk) 02:14, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It is an encyclopaedia. It should be mindful and considerate of the local conditions when reporting or writing about such. It shouldn't override the conditions and be considerate.Usertodjdj (talk) 02:20, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

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NSW State Heritage Register articles
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Gurulmundi, Queensland & Gurulmindi, Queensland
G'day! I noticed while cleaning Wikidata that articles Gurulmundi, Queensland and Gurulmindi, Queensland appear to be about the same locality, both created by you. Could you have a look and merge the articles if it's the same place? Kind regards Samoasambia (talk) 11:45, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Well spotted! Yes, the same place! I will merge them. Kerry (talk) 21:53, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Done! Kerry (talk) 22:04, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Jocelyn Dela-Cruz


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