User talk:KevinZUofT

Your submission at Articles for creation: Yangwang U7 (February 12)
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Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 20:25, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Yangwang U7


A tag has been placed on Draft:Yangwang U7, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Blocked
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because your account is being used only for advertising or promotion. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page:. —Cryptic 20:36, 12 February 2024 (UTC)


 * The edits you made to Yangwang and Yangwang U8 were no better, and what prompted me to block. Were they also direct translations of Yangwang's marketing material? —Cryptic 22:16, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi administrator, thanks for your prompt response. Yes, part of the contents were direct translations from Yangwang's official website, where some wording in Chinese was really hard to translate into English in a succinct version. However, what you've referred to has been completed and understood from my side once you issued the block warning to me a short while ago. To move forward with the precise uploading, I've already read all the policies and guidelines of Wikimedia, and I promise there'll never be a violation again. You have my word. At the same time, you could also get in touch with me. Since I really needed to finish this class project of UofT. Could you please unblock my account? Thanks for your kind understanding. Simultaneously, I'd like to thank you for issuing this block to me, which has taught me a lesson. I'll strictly follow all the rules in the Wikimedia community. Thanks again for everything! KevinZUofT (talk) 22:28, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Kevin


 * Please tell your instructor that Wikipedia is not a venue for promotional editing. Please tell your instructor to direct questions or concerns to the Education noticeboard. Thanks &#45;- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:43, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Since I've never had any intention to upload the content for any promotional editing, all the content was just for class project purposes. As I've strictly followed the community policies, is there any chance you could unblock my account so that I can move forward with any other content upload? The class project's purpose is to fully understand the procedure for uploading content on Wikimedia platforms, I really need this account for the later assignment. Can you please do me a favour? I'll strictly follow all the guidelines and policies. Thanks! KevinZUofT (talk) 22:50, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Can you expand more on exactly what your project entails? I would like to unblock you, but unfortunately your responses don't really show that you know why what you were doing is unacceptable. Please read through Wikipedia's policy on advertising, copyright violations, and reliable sources, and explain how your edits violated each of these policies. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 23:23, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your prompt response.
 * Allow me to provide you with an overview of the focus of this course. Titled "Information Workshop - Outreach," the course aims to familiarize participants with the architecture and history of Wikipedia, Wikidata, and Wikimedia Commons. It delves into the cores of contributing content and promoting wider awareness of Wikipedia. Many of us, including myself, were unaware of the extensive efforts behind the scenes on the Wikipedia platform until this course. I enrolled with the intention of contributing to this platform, having utilized Wikipedia extensively in the past. The course project involves contributing content to three platforms, including Wikipedia. Leveraging my background in marketing and my prior experience at Volkswagen HQ in the Asia Pacific region, I aspire to enhance Wikipedia's content in the automotive industry.
 * Regarding the Yangwang brand, my initial understanding is that it's gaining recognition among industry insiders in North America and Europe. My goal is to use this course to disseminate more information about Yangwang's products.
 * As a Canadian citizen, I am keen on ensuring that the electric vehicle industry in North America thrives and competes globally. I hope to showcase developments from countries like China, South Korea, and Japan on Wikipedia to accelerate progress in North America's new energy automobile sector.
 * I must acknowledge that my earlier content uploads were hasty and not thoroughly reviewed. I sincerely apologize for this lapse in judgment and any inconvenience it may have caused. My actions violated Wikipedia rules, and I deeply regret the oversight. Moving forward, I am committed to adhering strictly to copyright regulations, critically assessing each sentence for relevance, and ensuring proper references in my future uploads.
 * Specifically, I acknowledge that my previous uploads directly translated content from the company's official website without permission, and I uploaded content that served promotional purposes, although unintentionally. I am genuinely sorry for these attempts and assure you that I will exercise greater care in my future contributions.
 * In the next steps, I will ensure that every sentence and word I upload has proper permission and adheres to copyright regulations. I will meticulously review and interpret the content before uploading it in the form of an encyclopedia entry, avoiding direct uploads of original content. I appreciate your acknowledgment of my commitment to this class project and your willingness to impose the account block as a corrective measure.
 * I sincerely request the opportunity to have my account unblocked under your supervision. I am dedicated to meeting your expectations and earning your approval in all my future contributions. As a student, I am eager to make a meaningful contribution to the Wikipedia platform.
 * Thank you for your understanding and consideration. KevinZUofT (talk) 23:49, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that does not convince me. If you have to use ChatGPT to respond, you clearly will not be a positive contributor on Wikipedia. I am declining your unblock request. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 01:09, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I spent 20 minutes writing all seven paragraphs by myself, just to sincerely reply to you about what my thoughts were like initially, and I thought it would be better if I used ChatGPT to finalize the wording to make it more appropriate to you in case some inappropriate words or offensive wording occurring in the part. Your reply was kind of mean to me. Right now, I really don't have any ideas on how can I move forward.
 * Also, I do have a question here, I could think of a scenario in which someone writes some paragraphs and contributes to Wikipedia, but some grammar and typos occur among the contents, how would your team interpret that content? Are you obligated to modify all the content the users have uploaded or will you just prohibit the user from uploading the content? This is my question and it directly relates to the use of ChatGPT because I figure correcting grammar mistakes was one of the efficient tools many people are using right now. I think many people, including me, are willing to write something to contribute to Wikipedia, but if Wikipedia does not allow any content filtered from ChatGPT, is there any suggestion you could actually share with those with poor writing skills?
 * Right now, I am stuck at this stage, any suggestions if I can retrive my acccount back? KevinZUofT (talk) 01:54, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * The use of LLMs is very strongly discouraged on Wikipedia, since they can often distort input or hallucinate. Plus, I want to feel like I am talking to a person, not an AI. There are plenty of editors where English isn't their first language; if their writing isn't perfect, someone else can fix it later. I want to help you out here - I really do - but I can't unblock you if it would be detrimental to Wikipedia. I'll give you another chance - please respond to each of these questions in your own words, without the help of an AI, and be as specific as possible:
 * What kind of edits are you supposed to make for your course? What edits do you plan to make if unblocked?
 * What is Wikipedia's policy on advertising, and how did your edits violate it?
 * What is Wikipedia's policy on copyright violations, and how did your edits violate it?
 * What is Wikipedia's policy on reliable sources, and how did your edits violate it? What qualifies as a reliable source (give examples)?
 * — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 13:30, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Good morning. I appreciate your prompt reply. Honestly, "detrimental" was never been something in my mind initially when I planned to finish my coursework, never to say I've never had any intention to harm the community. All I tried to do was to contribute, that's it, never had many bad thoughts. So I'd be grateful if you could read all the above in a good way, but I do understand you were getting your prompt actions to keep the community running on the right track and I accept all the critiques you've shared with me. Please check the following as my answers:
 * What kind of edits are you supposed to make for your course? What edits do you plan to make if unblocked?
 * The coursework is quite an open topic for everyone, and the objectives are to contribute content to the three platforms. There's no imitation for the content uploading, so basically my initial goal was to upload something within my interest, which was the electric car industry. I was supposed to upload several paragraphs on Wikipedia about the newly-released electric car made by "Yangwang U8 or U9", upload several specs about the model in Wikidata, and one image that has an open public copywrite license to Wikimedia Commons. The edits I plan to do to revoke everything I feel is inappropriate in the first place, and get to find more relevant news or journals to "Yangwang", and to upload contents in my wording and understanding while at the same time highlighting the references.
 * Additionally, please note I never had any intention for any promotional purpose, and I was not even aware there was a brand called "Yangwang", which I felt upset about when my account got blocked. However, right now, I do realize I've made a mistake in violating Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and I'd like to make up for everything.
 * What is Wikipedia's policy on advertising, and how did your edits violate it?
 * Wikipedia is not a place for 1. Advocacy, propaganda, or recruitment. 2. Opinion pieces. 3. Scandal-mongering 4. Self-promotion. 5. Advertising, marketing, publicity, or public relations. My edits moved the marketing materials from the "Yangwang" website homepage, which directly violated the 5th rule, and did not follow the Wikipedia ground rules at all, which might also create some legal issues.
 * What is Wikipedia's policy on copyright violations, and how did your edits violate it?
 * The text of Wikipedia may be freely redistributed under the terms of the CC BY-SA and GFDL. Copying material without the permission of the copyright holder from sources that are not public domain or compatibly licensed is very likely to be a copyright violation. Even inserting text copied with some changes can be a copyright violation. My edits directly violated these rules where my "Translation and close paraphrasing" of the contents on the "Yangwang" website violated the copyright rules of Wikipedia.
 * What is Wikipedia's policy on reliable sources, and how did your edits violate it? What qualifies as a reliable source (give examples)?
 * Sources cited on Wikipedia should refer to three concepts: 1. The piece of work itself like the article or a book. 2. The creator of the work (the writer, journality) 3. The publisher of the work. Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published sources, and they shall cover all majority and significant minority views. If no reliable sources can be found on a topic, then it's treated as inappropriate content. Wikipedia should not have an article on a topic where no reliable sources can be found. Contents about living persons that are unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion. Wikipedia publishes only the analysis, views, and opinions of reliable authors, not those who have read and interpreted primary source material for themselves. Therefore, my edits were most interpreted by myself after reading the official website of "Yangwang", which also directly violates the rules.
 * For my case, I'd say an easy-to-find reliable source goes to be a publisher, writer or a journal. For example, an article from BBC TopGear published on September 7 2023 titled "The Yangwang U8 is a 1,184bhp plug-in hybrid SUV that can float on water" is regarded as a reliable source. I'd say finding reliable published articles or journals from reliable sources is a must prior to my contribution to Wikipedia.
 * For the above, thanks so much for your time. I appreciate your patience. KevinZUofT (talk) 14:43, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * The key things to remember when writing about a subject are: a) find reliable sources, b) write about, but do not directly copy, from the sources, and c) stay neutral when doing so. Your response seems good to me, so I wouldn't mind unblocking. Pinging @Cryptic for their thoughts. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 15:12, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your understanding and I really appreciate your patience. I'd definitely strictly follow all the rules and policies within the Wikipedia community moving forward. The lesson has been truly learned. Thanks again for everything! KevinZUofT (talk) 15:17, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Pessimistic. I have not ever seen a user who started out half so poorly as this one did turn out ok, and in particular I don't see any understanding of how offensively promotional the language he used was.  If you think he can be salvaged and really want to unblock, I won't stop you, but I think you'd be making a mistake. —Cryptic 16:03, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * You're probably right, but I'll give them a chance. Reblocks are cheap. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 16:56, 13 February 2024 (UTC)


 * KevinZUofT - I am going to unblock you, but you should be aware that this is your last chance. You need to follow each of the policies I pointed out above to the letter, or you risk being blocked again. If you have questions, please visit the WP:Teahouse or ask on my talk page. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 16:56, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes. I am fully understood and crystal clear about all the guidelines and policies. I appreciate your support at this stage. At the same time, as mentioned earlier, I'll find reliable sources, given my own understanding of all the articles or journals, and then post relevant reliable content collectively to Wikipedia. I'll do it later today, so please feel free to monitor me and you are more than welcome to check all the content I'll post later, proving your unblocking me is a positive action, and will be greatly appreciated. Simultaneously, I'll share the relevant knowledge with my future classmates and highlight the importance of community policies, and guidelines for those who have any need to upload content. Thanks again for everything! KevinZUofT (talk) 18:14, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi, just check in to confirm if you've unblocked me becasue right now it seems that the account still being in "blocking" mode. Thanks! KevinZUofT (talk) 19:56, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * That's strange, I definitely did unblock you. What does it say when you try to edit an article? — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 20:29, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi, I just uploaded one piece of content and it went through. Successfully uploaded. Even though my talk page still shows that my account was blocked, as long as I could move forward with the editing it's okay from my side. I'll then carefully check every piece of the contents prior to the uploading. Thanks again for your support! KevinZUofT (talk) 21:19, 13 February 2024 (UTC)