User talk:Kevin McE/Archives/2018

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Precious six years!
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Malvern, Worcestershire
Re your edit here, per WP:BRD,  please discuss at Talk:Malvern, Worcestershire. Thank you. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:05, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

The content has been restored. If you revert again, please be prepared to discuss your objections at WP:DRN. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:17, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Responsibility
has made an attack on my character in discussion at Talk:List of current Premier League and English Football League managers, apparently offended that I mentioned his name without alerting him to the fact. I twice invited him at his talk page to either defend or retract his comments, or to point out what rule of Wikipedia I had broken, but he twice deleted my message with no more than a curt dismissal in the edit note. So I again invite him to explain himself, to take responsibility for his actions, and to demonstrate (ironically) honourable intent. I know what conclusion I will draw if he does not do so, and will invite anyone else who happens across this to bear this behaviour of his in mind in any dealings they might have with him on this site. Kevin McE (talk) 12:54, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

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August 2018
Your recent editing history at The Handmaid's Tale (TV series) shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you don't violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.  MBlaze Lightning  talk 17:21, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * If your responses remain so totally lacking in sensible discussion, how to you suggest that I can discuss anything at talk?  Or are you going to rely on procedral threats rather than reasoned discussion?  Kevin McE (talk) 18:46, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. --1990&#39;sguy (talk) 00:27, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Your continued comments
This kind of comment is unacceptable on here. Please refrain from these jibes and go back to discussing content. --Neil N  talk to me 02:48, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has a disgusting habit of supporting these cabals. No wonder it has turned to shit in the last few years. Kevin McE (talk) 08:55, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Kevin McE, you've now made several admins aware of your bad language and your tendency to insult other editors. This is unlikely to go on much longer. EdJohnston (talk) 14:28, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Didn't realise this is meant for 7 year olds. Accounts for a lot.  Kevin McE (talk) 15:17, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

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Broxtowe
I have commented on the page of the user User:Crouch,_Swale who proposed a move to 'Borough of'. You have accepted this on the basis of 'unchallenged' although it was equally 'unsupported' and was based on POINTy reading of wiki guidance on UK place names. I noticed, last week by pure chance, a notice on a vaguely relevant page a group of renaming proposals from the user, and went back just now to add my disagreement only to find this one implemented. I have commented on his page about his intention to make a DAB page of a name with basically only one meaning. Sussexonian (talk) 18:58, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
 * "Broxtowe" has | multiple meanings. The sources and page hits indicate that the district isn't primary for the base names.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 19:20, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Moves don't necessarily need discussion at all. If an editor knows or thinks it will be contentious it is good etiquette to put it up for discussion.  It is thus guaranteed a week of being very clear on the page in question, and at a central listing, that the proposal is there.  Unlike a deletion, there is no minimum support necessary for a page move.  If you have an interest, and access to those two places, and the contributions list of an editor whom you appear to distrust, you had had in this case 3 weeks to register any discontent.  It had already been relisted once.  In such circumstances, and with apparent justification in a policy (there is some ambiguity, hence the need for a disambiguation page and the hatnotes that had been present), I have no qualms about the closure.  Kevin McE (talk) 19:33, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, I missed the fact that in Rushcliffe GeoNames does just use that name but for most of the others it does use "Foo District". Sussexonian I don't see anything pointy or wrong about the use of the guideline and have now provided you with evidence of the common name.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 19:40, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Kevin, thanks for the reply, I was not really arguing with your closure judgement, as you clearly considered it was a minor matter; more simply stating that the outcome is undesirable (of course my opinion) and inconsistent with the general case and annoyance that I did not respond the day I saw the entries. Certainly didn't see any sign of a relisting though. By the way, where has the idea come from that Wikipedia article hits have any relevance to "primary subject"? I have never seen that argued before. And in any case this is not a battle over which page should be at Boston. it is a question of the correct name for an article which describes an entity whose correct and common name is Broxtowe, a name that has no other claims as an article title.

My understanding of normal article title policy is that those two facts together mean the article should be at the simplest (one word) title. Sussexonian (talk) 21:31, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
 * It was relisted here. The page hits are relevant to WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, in that if readers are much more likely to be looking for one topic over the others or one is much more significant. As the district doesn't get more views than the others and is sometimes known other than just "Broxtowe" its unlikely to be primary. Boston has indeed also been discussed but that is a bit different as they are 2 different places while this is a district named after a place in the same area. Yes "Broxtowe" might well be the most common name but per WP:NATURAL if "Broxtowe" isn't available then it can be put at a title that is nearly equally as good.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:19, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 * , : if you want to have a chat, do it on one of your talk pages, or on that of the Broxtowe page if you want it to be open to others. Kevin McE (talk) 20:58, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

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Hinault
Thanks for you edits to Bernard Hinault! I have yet to edit those sections, but they will receive quite an overhaul. Should I let you know when I am through the article so that you can take a look at it? Zwerg Nase (talk) 17:09, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Can you offer your opinion in this discussion?
Hi. In the past you've offered your opinion in choosing photos for the Infobox. Can you offer your neutral opinion in this discussion on a related topic? It may go toward a precedent regarding captions. Thanks, and Happy Holidays. Nightscream (talk) 20:10, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Carlos Ghosn
You kept remove the Lebanese/Lebanon reference from his biography without a valid reason whereas I added 4 references supporting my claims. Please reconsider reading the references before re-updating the wiki. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.90.171.115 (talk) 17:04, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 * His grandfather was Lebanese born. That means his father could have taken out Lebanese nationality, but we have no evidence about that.  If his father did not take up that option, then he has no entitlement, according to the article on Lebanese nationality law, to that status.  Kevin McE (talk) 18:18, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

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Swallow
OK now you're simply edit warring. Inserting the same contested change three times is not acceptable. Please revert your latest change and discuss on the talk page per usual BRD conventions. Saw wings are certainly Hiruninae but that doesn't mean we should do original research and say there are three subdivisions when all the sources say there are two. But more importantly, when your change to a long-standing piece of text is challenged, you seek consensus, you don't edit war. A long standing and respected editor like yourself should know that. Thanks &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 08:56, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

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Pauliner
I'll work on the church tomorrow, but you can go ahead and improve. The church is dedicated to Saint Paul. The friars were colloquially named after him. ---Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:36, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * The church would have been called St Paul as a dedication to Paul by the Dominicans, and I guess the Dominicans, the Order of Preachers, would have a natural inclination towards Paul, but I have never heard of them being called the Paulines: there is an order called the Paulines, but their name comes from a different St Paul, and an order of much more recent foundation called the Paulists, but neither within the Dominican family. I checked the de.wiki page on the Dominicans, and there is no reference there to Paul (CTRL-F and Paul in the searchbox: I don't speak German): might it have been that the Dominicans locally were nicknamed 'Pauliners' as they were the priests from St Paul's? Either way, I think the explanation a sentence or two later was the clearer of the two renderings of the info.  Apologies, my edit note was unnecessarily brusque. HNY  Kevin McE (talk) 16:23, 30 December 2018 (UTC)