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inre Articles for deletion/Esther's Diary (film)
The concerns at the AFD needed addressing, as we really cannot use IMDB or youtube or the company's own website or its press releases as references. But even without those references, I was still able to create an decently encyclopedic article... but under the film's original name. As the film had its initial release and set of awards and reviews under the name Forgiveness, that is the name best to be used... with contextual mention of the newer release and name as a sort of "director's special edition". See User:MichaelQSchmidt/workspace/Forgiveness (2008 film). What I think will best serve is for me to use my test article as the basis to edit the existing article, and then to suggest at the AFD that as concerns have been addressed, the article can be "moved" to Forgiveness (2008 film). This preserves the histories and GFDL, sets a better version in mainspace, and leaves a redirect of Esther's Diary as a reasonable search term. Then, as the director's cut hits more festivals, gets more awards, and more coverage, such can be included in the revamped article. It just should not be so spammy. What'cha think? -- Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 22:13, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

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Nomination of Deeper and Deeper (film) for deletion
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User sub-pages...
Are you aware that you can build articles in a user workspace, tweak them to perfection, and seek input about their quality from helpful editors, before turning them loose in mainspace? Or if an article is found wanting, you can always request userfication to a userspace to continue work? You have some great ideas, but if you begin them out of mainspace, they can be as strong as possible before being presented to the world. You can begin with a few like these (links turn blue when content added)...
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Its just like creating an article in mainspace as you have... but OUT of mainspace... so they are not judged as "wanting" before all issus are addressed. THEN its time for mainspace, and the move is easy.

And you can always ask the closer of the Bonnie Orr AFD to userfy it to you at User:Keyboard warrior killer/sandbox/Bonnie Orr so you can keep working on it... specially as only one editor commented at that AFD.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 19:50, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

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Hiya. I reverted your edit on Eureka, California because of lack of notability. Ellin Beltz (talk) 21:47, 1 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Everything gets reverted for lack of "notability". If Brian Ladd is not notable enough, that I can see. If The Psyclones are not notable enough, that I can see. But Blackhouse has a long running reputation going back to the 1980's. They are notable as the very first Christian industrial band and have influenced many artists within the industrial genre that came after them.  And they are based in Eureka. Keyboard warrior killer (talk) 00:22, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Perhaps if your edits are getting reverted for lack of notability, it is time to read up on the process. Even though the links above in your welcome note include the pathways to get to these sections, I have included a few hot links for you here. Ellin Beltz (talk) 01:41, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * For Biographies of Living People:
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 * WP:BIO
 * WP:BASIC
 * WP:ALIVE
 * Regarding the two named musical entities to which you refer:
 * WP:NMUSIC
 * WP:MUSICBIO


 * WP:ENT Actors, voice actors, comedians, opinion makers, models, and celebrities:

*Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following. *Has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment.
 * WP:MUSICBIO A musician or ensemble (note that this includes a band, singer, rapper, orchestra, DJ, musical theatre group, instrumentalist, etc.) may be notable if it meets at least one of the following criteria:

*Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself.[note 1] *This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries...


 * Blackhouse counts as notable under all of these criteria.


 * I am not Brian Ladd, and don't work for him, but I do happen to be a longtime fan of Blackhouse, which is how I know about Eureka, CA to begin with. Much of Blackhouse's coverage was in print magazines in the 1980's and 1990's. How do I provide proof of notability so that either Brian Ladd or Blackhouse is included in this list?

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Your recent edit to List of baroque pop artists appears to have added the name of a non-notable entity to a list that normally includes only notable entries. In general, a person or organization added to a list should have a pre-existing article before being added to most lists. If you wish to create such an article, please first confirm that the subject qualifies for a separate, stand-alone article according to Wikipedia's notability guideline. Thank you. &mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 14:04, 26 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Explain to me please why you did not also take down the mention of The Byrds as Baroque Pop, as they are not sourced. Also, why did you leave all of those recent artists in that are not sourced?   I have left a message in the article's talk section explaining why I think it's important that non-notable artists be allowed to be put up if they can be sourced as baroque pop elsewhere. People come to Wikipedia expecting a large list of artists that they can use as a resource for discovery.  Removing lesser known artists because they are lesser known runs counter intuitive to this discovery process. Let's face it, a minor artist from the 1960's is likely to have fallen through the cracks in 45 years time and therefore would not be notable in Wikipedia today. But why should that mean that their work can't even be listed in the very genre it played a role in?--Keyboard warrior killer (talk) 05:19, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 * By the way, I will accept New Trolls as not being Baroque Pop because it cannot be sourced; that is fine. For whatever reason, the handful of blatant baroque pop songs that they did (e.g. "Io che ho te" from 1971) have never been called such for who knows what reason; probably because they are usually associated with progressive rock and general Italian pop.

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Robbie Robertson
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 * Hi there Ulmanor! Thanks for connecting with me about this. I've been talking with the Robertson family (i.e. Robbie's kids) and they have talked to me extensively about their and Robbie's shared concern about the portrayal in Wikipedia and elsewhere of Robbie's birth name; apparently this has been a pretty frustrating issue for them.  To the best of my knowledge, the claim that Robertson was born with the last name Klegerman comes from the book Whispering Pines (2009) by Jason Schneider, and this was published in Wikipedia and then repeated elsewhere because it was in Wikipedia.  But according to Robbie and his kids, this information is incorrect.  If you look at the bio on Robbie's official website and in the book |Rock and Roll Highway (2014), the latter a children's book about Robbie that his son Sebastian wrote about him, both of these sources state in no uncertain terms that his name is Jaime Royal Robertson.  That said, I do agree that neither says he was "born" with that name, so that makes it a little more difficult. My understanding is that Robbie is going to explain that his birth name is Jaime Royal Robertson, and explain how it happened that his biological father was named Klegerman but his birth name is Robertson, in his autobiography Testimony, which is coming out in November.  I've been asked to keep the way this happened quiet for now, but I will say that there is one highly unlikely but plausible way that it can happen, and amazingly enough, it did indeed happen. What I'm thinking we could do to make everyone happy for the time being is follow the suggestions suggested recently by TheScotch in the Robbie Robertson talk page, and then after Robbie goes public with the full information in the Testimony book, we will use the birth name info as presented therein here in Wikipedia. If it continues to be an issue after Testimony comes out, I will talk to Robbie's family and management and see about having them put up a dedicated page on Robbie's website explaining this issue. I sure hope this explanation helps, my friend. I understand you wanting to get the right info up and I definitely do too.  Please let me know that you got this info if you can, and I hope this will be a fair compromise. Keyboard warrior killer (talk) 16:32, 7 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for reaching out with such a thorough explanation, User:Keyboard warrior killer. I see how this could be a sensitive subject for him as it regards his self-identity. While I usually operate under the philosophy of "Get it right, no matter whom it may offend," I think the solution currently worked out on the Talk Page is a good one, and I'll refrain from further reversion. It'll be interesting to read Testimony, especially vis-à-vis This Wheel's on Fire. I'll keep an eye on the Talk Page. Thanks again. Ulmanor (talk) 15:18, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

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 * thumb|350px|The Band in 1969. Robertson is second from the right.]] Robertson is on the far right. In early 1969, Robertson and Music From Big Pink producer John Simon flew to Hawaii to plan the

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Re: Daniel Davies
Hi. Thanks for clarification on my talk page. I thought it might be the case that you had the article ready, but you should add the wikilinks after the article is created in future. No harm done, so it's all good :) Andre666 (talk) 18:55, 18 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks Andre! Good idea; I appreciate the tip and I will try to do that in the future.  Keyboard warrior killer (talk) 21:45, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

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Hi, the article is very good now. Have moved it to C class on the bio project, I'm not qualified to assess for B class or good article or to assess for its other projects so its probably best you enquire at the help desk, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 19:09, 29 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Atlantic306 I am so grateful. Thank you very much for this! Keyboard warrior killer (talk) 19:19, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

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Tav Falco's Panther Burns
There's 4 citations classifying the band as psychobilly, more than any other genre cited for the group's musical style. That's why it was listed. You can't just remove citations and sourced information just because you don't like it. I don't know what you're trying to accomplish, but you're being disruptive. Please stop. There's a way to handle articles on musicians where the musician doesn't like being classified as a genre he is classified. See Slim Cessna's Auto Club for example, where it notes that Cessna rejects the classification of his music as alternative country and gothic country, but still lists them in both the article and the infobox because they are well sourced. RockabillyRaccoon (talk) 12:28, 13 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hey there Rockabilly Raccoon. I am working with Tav Falco himself on the Tav Falco and Tav Falco's Panther Burns Wikipedia pages, and am the one that rewrote the Tav Falco Wikipedia page on his behalf.
 * Mr. Falco despises the term "psychobilly" and specifically requested that the term "psychobilly" not be used to reference what he does. I talked to him and his manager about this extensively a few days ago, and long story short, Mr. Falco was not happy about that being added to his Wikipedia pages at all.
 * I would be happy to assemble a set of genre references for what he does, and source those in the Tav Falco and Tav Falco's Panther Burns infoboxes. Within my memory, most of the references that I sourced do not call him "psychobilly." And Tav Falco's Panther Burns is certainly not exclusively "psychobilly" as one of the recent edits suggested. Please work with me on respecting the artist's wishes.
 * Keyboard warrior killer (talk) 15:16, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keyboard warrior killer (talk) 15:16, 13 June 2022 (UTC)


 * You do realize that Wikipedia isn't built on editor's opinions? Or that editing an article on behalf of it's subject or it's subject editing an article to fit his own biases is frowned upon? You do realize that Wikipedia isn't built on editor's opinions? Or that editing an article on behalf of it's subject or it's subject editing an article to fit his own biases is frowned upon? "The subject of the article doesn't like it" isn't a good reason to delete references and sourced statements. Also there's no sources for Rock and Roll, Rockabilly, Blues, Rhythm & blues, Alternative rock, Psychedelic rock, Cabaret music or Outsider music. I specifically searched for sources discussing the band and found references discussing styles the band was classified as and you purposefully deleted them. You've made it clear that you have no intention of working with other editors. RockabillyRaccoon (talk) 16:46, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Rockabilly Raccoon, I would like to point out that making "psychobilly" the one and only genre in Tav Falco's Panther Burns' infobox is itself an editor bias that you are imposing on Wikipedia, so exactly what you are accusing me of. Not to mention that finding a source for Tav Falco being "rock and roll" or "rockabilly" is extremely easy, despite what you say.
 * I just now spoke to Mr. Falco's manager, and there is a very good reason for keeping "psychobilly" out of his Wikipedia pages: People go to Wikipedia and regurgitate whatever is already there, which then creates the sources that one can then use to say Mr. Falco's music is "psychobilly." Here is a quote from Mr. Falco's manager that I just now received:
 * "The reason there are so many online references to Tav being 'psychobilly' is because people read his Wiki entry while writing their stories. They see the term 'psychobilly' in the first paragraph, think to themselves 'that sounds catchy,' and include it in their coverage. It's like a dog chasing its own tail."
 * I will assemble a list of genres that Mr. Falco has been classically considered to be going back to the 1980s and 1990s, and will be happy to remove some like "Outsider music" if they cannot be sourced. I will also not use "art damage" as a genre because this is not considered an actual genre. Again, work with me here.
 * Keyboard warrior killer (talk) 17:09, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @RockabillyRaccoon I just wanted to let you know that I haven't forgotten about adding the paragraph on musical style to the Tav Falco and Tav Falco's Panther Burns articles. I haven't been able to get to it because I'm running behind on other projects, but I will get to it soon. I sure appreciate you working with me on refining that. Keyboard warrior killer (talk) 19:27, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

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