User talk:Khvalamde/Archives2012/January

One source tagging
Hi there! You don't need to tag pages that use one source when they are very short, as you did here. Thanks! &mdash; Joseph Fox 10:20, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I note you're also tagging a multitude of new articles in a similar way. Please note that Wikipedia has no deadline and there is no need to act so quickly with these tags, particularly on new articles. :) &mdash; Joseph Fox 10:34, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

People's Liberation Front
This much trouble for saving as a blank page ONCE? The article is now published, with sources and content. Please get rid of the deletion tag.
 * Please see WP:TALK. If this is a disputed claim, leave it on the talk page rather than coming here.  Abhijay  ☎(Тalk)/✍ (My Deeds)  04:51, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Maksut Narikbaev for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Maksut Narikbaev is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Maksut Narikbaev until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Zzaffuto118 (talk) 19:13, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

A gazeta de Limeira article
A Gazeta de Limeira

Hi, could you help me to clean up this article? I will look into more sources as you asked, but I'm not sure how I can "clean up". I'm a beginner on this so I would appreciate your help! Tks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muriloberbert (talk • contribs) 22:08, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

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Heatwaveqc
Hello, Abhijay. Thanks for your message on my talk page. Actually, the speedy deletion was mistaken. A7 covers individual real animals, but not cover species of animals, and it covers real animals but not fictitious ones. (Don't ask me why.) Either one of those would be enough to make A7 invalid for this article. I have posted a message at User talk:Heatwaveqc, which you are, of course, welcome to read if you like. You can try AfD to get the article deleted if you like. I think, under the circumstances, it would be more helpful to the author of the article to wait a while before doing so, to minimize the WP:BITE effect. Certainly in its present state the article would stand no chance of surviving an AfD, and my guess is that no article on the subject would, but it's not vandalism, spam, a copyvio, or a BLP infringement, and I don't see that leaving it around for a while will do any harm. However, that is just a personal opinion, and if you decide to go straight to AfD I won't object.

As for the editor being upset about your editing, and saying you drive people away, well, I do understand his/her point of view, but I don't blame you. It is an unfortunate fact that many people come here with mistaken ideas about how Wikipedia works, and find the reality an unpleasant surprise. We can be as friendly to new users as is reasonably possible, and try to minimise the damage, of course. JamesBWatson (talk) 16:35, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

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[Cyanis rosopteryx]]
You marked for deletion my article Cyanis rosopteryx, which as you can see has now been deleted. The reason given was that the article does not state why we should care about that specific (fictional) animal. This only came to my attention AFTER the article was deleted by another editor, about an hour later (sorry, wikipedia is not my life... I was actually watching the relevant movie at the time). The reason I created the article was that it is a fictional, non-existant animal to which the movie (Journey to the Center of the Earth (2008 film)) attributes a number of erroneous traits. When googling the name, one encounters a number of sites claiming this animal is real, but all of them unverified and erroneous. Since Wikipedia is what most people consider a reliable source for real information, I came here to provide correct information on the fictional bird. However, as I come back after the movie to see what has happened, I find my article deleted and once again false information reigns on the internet.

This was my first attempt at aiding the wiki community by creating my own article. Wiki's own numbers have shown that the wiki editor population has shrunk and become more stagnant, and the number of new articles and new contributors has been in steady decline for some time now. I have heard that it is treatment like this that promotes that trend, and I can believe it, as personally I find myself disinclined to contribute again after this first experience. Your message on my comment page was friendly enough, but it smacked of a template you post on all "newb editor" pages after you mark their articles for deletion. I don't know if this is true, and have nothing against you personally. Mostly, I just want you to consider this: how many people have you driven away from contributing to this wonderful resource by actions similar to the one you have taken with me? How many have just walked away without even saying "hey, that's wrong."? I know it was certainly my first inclination.

If you have beneficial input on the topic of my departed article, feel free to contact me. For the rest... I don't think it requires comment, but if you desire feel free.

Have a nice day.

Heatwaveqc (talk) 13:14, 10 January 2012 (UTC) (see, I even remembered to sign)


 * Replied to your comment on my talk page. Didn't know if you were following it, so I thought I'd mention it here.  Sorry about the almost-personal attack above.  Heatwaveqc (talk) 23:21, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

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Why have you reverted my deletion of the above....They just clutter up the page? 86.42.22.68 (talk) 17:39, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

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Employment Office Australia
I marked your A1 speedy deletion tag of Employment Office Australia as hasty, because you tagged it within just two minutes of its creation. To avoid biting newcomers, and to allow users to make additions after creation, it's best to wait at LEAST ten minutes- preferably an hour- after creation before tagging an article for speedy deletion under either A1 or A3.--Slon02 (talk) 01:21, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Adrianne Curry
What are you talking about that my edit was "non constructive"???!!! I corrected the fact that she is still married, while the edit previously stated '2011' as their divorce date, but they are not divorced now. It seems as if you are making no sense at all. (24.62.100.251 (talk) 11:05, 24 January 2012 (UTC))

Biting
Hello, Abhijay. You do some really good work on Wikipedia, including antivandlism work. Do keep it up. However, sometimes you jump on new users too suddenly. Quite often, a new editor will make an edit which is not acceptable by Wikipedia standards, but the user, being new, doesn't realise what is wrong. In that case, a friendly message explaining what the problem is can often be more useful than a warning of an impending block. Once the situation has been explained, if the user still continues the same sort of editing then a block warning will be justified. Going straight to a level 3 warning from nothing is rarely justified, and an immediate level 4 warning is acceptable only in really extreme cases. As I said, you are doing good work, and I don't want to discourage you, but I suggest thinking carefully about the risk of of biting newcomers. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:18, 24 January 2012 (UTC)


 * One other thought, related to that. Please try to make sure that warnings you give are appropriate. It is not helpful to give, for example, a warning on "vandalism" to someone who has made perfectly good faith edits but has not understood Wikipedia's policy on sourcing, neutral point of view, or some other issue. Vandalism warnings should be given only where it is unambiguously clear that the person warned has been intentionally disruptive. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:25, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Hello James. I appear to use Huggle on a very slow computer and sometimes the articles often never appear up and I meant to have done it to another article, not yours. I apologise. I am not making any sort of excuse or whatever it is the truth. But still, I will be cautioned for warning the incorrect people just because of Huggle lagging. Don't be discouraged because of a simple computer error. Abhijay (☎ Talk) (✐ Deeds) 16:00, 24 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I know from my own use of Huggle that it can be very easy to let Huggle automatically send a warning which turns out to be unsuitable. However, it is necessary to be very careful using Huggle. I always keep a browser open at the same time as Huggle, and I very often switch over to the browser to get a fuller picture than Huggle gives, before I take any action. That slows me down quite a lot, unfortunately, but it does make a big reduction in the number of mistakes I make. JamesBWatson (talk) 16:05, 24 January 2012 (UTC)


 * alright. I'll be a bit more careful. I'm new to the tool, and we all have a learning curve.  Abhijay (☎ Talk) (✐ Deeds) 16:07, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes. I've been using Huggle for about a couple of years, but I still make mistakes with it. I do try to keep them to minimum, though. JamesBWatson (talk) 16:11, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

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