User talk:Ki999

October 2017
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Proposed deletion of Fift


The article Fift has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Programming language with no evidence of meeting the general notability guideline"

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Your contributed article, List of social platforms with more than 100M MAU


Hello, I noticed that you recently created a new page, List of social platforms with more than 100M MAU. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page – List of social platforms by monthly active users. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at List of social platforms by monthly active users. If you have new information to add, you might want to discuss it at the article's talk page.

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Help with an article you've edited
Hi, I saw you have contributed some sizeable balanced edits to the Telegram (Messenger) page in the past and was wondering if you might wanna join forces and bring the page to a reasonable state, it's not in a good state right now. Seeing how you have quite a few edits about social media, this seems like it'd be in your area of interest. Here's a link to the original suggestion for clean-up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Telegram_(software)#Messy_state_of_the_article ASpacemanFalls (talk) 16:49, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

November 2020
Please refrain from making test edits in Wikipedia pages, such as those you made to List of social platforms with at least 100 million active users, even if you intend to fix them later. Your edits have been reverted. If you would like to experiment again, please use your sandbox. Thank you. Dl2000 (talk) 22:22, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

August 2022
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by inserting commentary or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at Talk:Andrew_Tate. –– FormalDude   talk   09:59, 28 August 2022 (UTC)


 * This warning is not valid because contrary to your claim, I did not "insert commentary or my personal analysis into an article". I possibly inserted them only into a talk page. Talk pages are not articles. I see you don't know what an "article" means. You may read here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_is_an_article

There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Throast  { { ping }} me! (talk &#124; contribs) 18:26, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Important Notice
–– FormalDude   talk   11:28, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

September 2022
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because it appears that you are not here to build an encyclopedia. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Drmies (talk) 01:15, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

ANI discussion is here. Drmies (talk) 01:17, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

You have blocked me, claiming that I am "clearly not here to build an encyclopedia" because "consensus has it" but in fact this "consensus" that you claimed to exist has been established almost exclusively among 3 users with whom I was having an argument and was I believe very close to winning. I read "clearly not here to build an encyclopedia" very carefully and I am convinced more than ever that it does not apply to me. My impression is the whole report by these people consists almost exclusively of false accusations and accusation of things that are not a violation of Wikipedia guidelines. The only time I think I definitely made a mistake was in a couple sentences where I used the word "lying" instead of "making false claim". I had made it very clear beforehand that I did not know for sure if the user made a false claim intentionally. In addition to this, I have very clearly apologised. Other than that, I have not been convinced of any wrongdoing by me. If you have seen any instances of behavior that prove I am clearly NOTHERE, please list them using the following format for each of them: 1. Quote from me. The exact quote, not just someone's interpretation of it. 2. Quote(s) from Wikipedia's policies, explicitly explaining that my behavior was so unacceptable that it falls under WHYBLOCK. 3. Any additional commentary is optional. If you are too busy to provide evidence that supports my block, you may ask other administrators. But if all administration fails to provide evidence that I qualify for block, I will claim that blocking policy has been violated. Thanks. Ki999 (talk) 11:00, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The evidence is in the thread--this is a block that I placed based on what the community thinks about your editing, "community" here exemplified by the editors in the thread. You are welcome to ask other administrators what they think. You are also welcome to file an unblock request; instructions are in the block template. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 14:28, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * If you think opinions of the other users on that thread are the main criteria for deciding if I should be blocked, let me point out that I carefully read that thread and only 3 users there have expressed an opinion that I should be blocked. 2 of them were the exact users with whom I have had a long argument so they had direct interest in me being blocked. I would not call them even remotely neutral for this topic. Other than that, the only such opinion was that "Given the massive WP:IDHT above, I'd say that the only way this isn't going to wind up an indef is if Ki999 just walks away from the project. Addition by subtraction". I have already expressed that I consider this highly inappropriate and threatening. The user who wrote that has a very extensive history of participation in that page, especially during the last 1-year period, meaning it is safe to assume that this user generally enjoys making accusations about people, as they make it on a very regular basis. Meanwhile, due to the fact that you refused to provide evidence that I am WP:NOTHERE in the constructive format that I suggested, please provide me a method to ping multiple administrators. Given the guideline that a large number of unblock requests may lead to even more blocking, I believe it is too soon for me to file one.


 * Also, I would like to report User:WannurSyafiqah74 for the following behavior. I have never interacted with this user before you blocked me. This user came to my page with no apparent reason, claimed "Says a lot when you asked such specific topics" about me and refused to clearly express their opinion. Also called me "mad", said that my behaviour is "hilarious", suggested that I am "not civil", "not listening", "babbling", told me to "not edit here at all", claimed that I "seem to be weird and self-defensive", made sarcastic response to my quoting of WP policy, and, in addition to all of this, created a new admin notice, repeatedly suggesting that my access to this talk page may soon need to be revoked. All of this within a very short period.


 * My overall impression is that the "big lie" method is being used against me, and every single thing I say is being framed as something bad and promoted as a fault of me. Ki999 (talk) 17:49, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I have already warned the editor about their gravedancing, and I just told them to not abuse ANI either--thank you for pointing that out. I don't understand what you mean with "large number of unblock requests". Place one, and admins who follow such things will come here. Oh, don't twist words: I am not "refusing" to provide evidence. I assessed a consensus. If you want me to do a more detailed investigation of how your alleged ownership of Talk:Andrew Tate is disruptive enough for an indefinite block, I can do that. I would also look at what seems to be a very condescending way of talking to other editors and even administrators. And I suppose I would have to look at what other editors referred to as unverified statements and tendentious claims--I assume those concerned living people, and if you had read WP:BLP, the relevant policy, you would have noticed that the BLP applies throughout the project, including on talk pages. If I am somehow pushed into doing that, it won't happen today and maybe not tomorrow either, and the end result might be a discretionary sanction on top of this block. I refer you to the "Important Notice" above, placed by User:FormalDude.Again, placing an unblock request is the way to draw other administrators here, and I am sure that the next admin to come by will look at this objectively. Drmies (talk) 18:01, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't think I ever made any "tendentious claims" about Andrew Tate or that there was any "alleged ownership" of Talk:Andrew Tate. I did not say that you "refused to provide evidence", I said that you "refused to provide evidence in the constructive format that I suggested" (which is true, and does not mean the former). Due to the clear rule that consensus is determined by the quality of arguments (not by a simple counted majority) I believe it would be more neutral to act as if all accusations to me come from a same person and focus only on quality of arguments, not the number or level of experience of people who make them. I have suggested a template for providing high-quality arguments and not a single high quality argument has been provided so far. If you are willing to investigate my behavior and present your findings in the format I suggested, go ahead. But I would like to ask:
 * 1. What would it mean for me if I get 'discretionary sanction on top of this block'? I cannot understand that.
 * 2. I have made a claim that the AT article (article itself, not talk page) is full of questionable claims which are not verified by sources. Do you recommend me to provide evidence for this claim (which I have not provided yet) on my talk page or just wait?
 * Thank you. Ki999 (talk) 10:47, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The evidence was amply provided in the ANI discussion, and of the eight other editors involved in that discussion, not a single one was agreeing with you: that's a sound example of consensus in action. With that -- despite whatever narrative you have going on in your head, or the startling premise that you can't be accused of calling someone a liar as long as you didn't use the word "lying" -- your approval is not required for an indefinite block.  Nor is Drmies or any other admin required to submit to your grilling before a block is somehow ratified. The whole point behind why WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT is an essential behavioral guideline is that "I'm right and everyone else is wrong" is blatantly disruptive behavior not conducive to building an encyclopedia.  The advice in the guide to appealing blocks linked above is good.  You would be well advised to heed it.   Ravenswing      11:42, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Why did you even come here? I have asked a very specific question to a very specific group of people. You are not from that group of people. You did not come to answer the question. The whole premise of my question is that evidence for me qualifying for block was not provided. And you still refused to provide evidence, other than just misinterpreting my words and declaring your own questionable interpretations of WP policies. The fact there was nobody who acted supportive towards me is not an example of my misbehavior. Wikipedia is not a democracy. Ki999 (talk) 12:28, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

I am requesting an unblock. The reason to unblock me is simply the fact that the block was for no reason. Admin who blocked me did not specify any reason when blocking me other than “consensus” which was mainly among the users with whom I was having an argument.

I admit only the following wrongdoing at this point:

1. I said another user is “lying” when I did not know if their false claim was intentional, we apologised to each other long before block.

2. I ignored the advice to post at WP:RSP. The same applied to WP:Teahouse until some point.

I was also accused of doing things which are allowed on Wikipedia such as adding unsourced info into talk page and asking another user if they have a COI. Even the formal warning to me was given for violating a rule which was misinterpreted and was actually not violated.

The complaint about me was filed exclusively based on content I posted on a single talk page. If you can see any wrongdoing by me which I am yet to admit, please provide them using the format I requested above (between horizontal lines)

Content I have previously added to Wikipedia was cited in an article retweeted by Jimbo himself but I am blocked because I am supposedly WP:NOTHERE. Ki999 (talk) 11:43, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

can you show me some examples what “grounds to lift a block” look like which you “don’t see” here? Examples where unblock request actually led to unblock? I actually wanted to draw multiple admins here just to investigate my behavior and find evidence of block-justifying behavior by me (which they never did). I wanted to do this before placing an unblock request but another admin told me that the way to call other admins is to place an unblock request. Which you declined after 6 minutes which shows you investigated nothing. Ki999 (talk) 12:12, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Pings do not work unless your signature is in the same post in which you ping. Came here by chance. Please see the unblock appeals guide for information on crafting an unblock request likely to be accepted. In short, it should acknowldege the behavior that led to the block and say what you will do differently in the future. If the block was in error, you should explain why- though in what I reviewed, your request boils down to "they were wrong" without saying why. I am not the last word, you are welcome to make a new request for review by someone else. 331dot (talk) 12:49, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Message to Askarion
You claimed the following: What makes a statement or action "notable" is not for me to decide; it is for reliable sources to decide. If they decide to write about and publish a certain thing Tate said or did, that must mean what he said or did is notable; if enough of them write about it, it creates a case for inclusion in the article. For now, the most notable thing Tate has done on Rumble is challenge KSI to a boxing match This is completely false due to the fact that AT posted a video called "final message" on Rumble which was reported by The Sun, Independent, Insider, NBC NEWS, New York Times, Mirror. If you continue to claim that this fact "should not be included on Wikipedia because it is not notable since RS claimed it is not notable" then by your logic, WP is full of information that you consider inappropriate. Perhaps most of the encyclopedic content on WP falls into that category. Good luck with deleting all of that. Also you have engaged in debate with me in a place and time where I am not able to answer, so please respond to your own msg with a link to this text to avoid Gravedancing accusations. Thanks. Ki999 (talk) 18:53, 1 September 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to engage in discussion at this time because it might be in violation of Wikipedia's banning policy, specifically WP:PROXYING, for a banned user to use their own talk page to leverage/discuss edits to articles on which they're banned from participation from, including, in your case, Andrew Tate and Talk:Andrew Tate. If your ongoing block appeal is approved by an administrator, we can discuss these edits further. As a courtesy, I'll offer one final note on this issue before going quiet: Wikipedia does not consider The Sun or Daily Mirror to be reliable sources. Of the remaining four, none of them mention that Tate posted this video on Rumble; Insider and NBC say they were posted "on Vimeo"; NYT says "on YouTube"; and Independent do not mention where the video was posted. Regardless, this video by Tate, "Final Message", is already discussed in the article under "Social media presence". Thank you, Askarion   ✉  19:22, 1 September 2022 (UTC)


 * ykwim Ki999 (talk) 08:41, 5 September 2022 (UTC)


 * User:Askarion is correct: there shall be no proxying. Right now, your talk page is for requesting an unblock. You have not placed an unblock request, and that makes it very inappropriate for you to be discussing article content, requesting others to do the editing for you. Either place that unblock request, or the NOTHERE block might be extended to your user talk page. Drmies (talk) 15:02, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree - plus, to Ki999: you need to read WP:UNBLOCK. I'm sorry for my gravedancing from before, as I was not trustworthy of you, but honestly - I feel as if it's easier to comply that you did not behave, write a decent reason for unblocking, change for the better and then you can contribute again.
 * Right now, it's unnecessary to ask people to edit things for you at this time. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 10:00, 8 September 2022 (UTC)