User talk:Kicking222/Archive 2

Email
I'd like to send you an email, but your email isn't activated. JoshuaZ 15:57, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Done and done. -- Kicking222 16:10, 7 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Sent. JoshuaZ 16:19, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Hastings, Ontario
Thorough GA review... thumbs up! :-) --Ling.Nut 05:59, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you
Hi Kicking222, thanks so much for your absolute support in my RFA.. The great thing about the RFA is that I get to meet nice people like you. All the best for the plans that you have on your user page:) -- Lost (talk) 16:41, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Your review of Fabolous
Thanks for your review of this article and your suggestions on it, will work on the concerns. Seraphimblade 03:38, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

My RfA:
Thank you so very much for voting support in my RfA. However, I have withdrawn due to reasons that a stressed user would withdraw under. I'm sorry I have failed you & your expectations. Thanks, Spawn Man 08:59, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks
Hi Kicking222, I am very thankful to you for supporting and comments on my succesful RfA. Shyam ( T / C ) 06:22, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Reconsider vote for Dr.S. Hussain Zaheer Memorial High School
I would like to ask you to reconsider your creation of the AfD for Dr.S. Hussain Zaheer Memorial High School. With a little bit of research, it is clear that the school is indeed notable, and the additional information has been added to the article with material from the school's web site and several references from The Hindu, India's main national newspaper. With its management and operation by the Indian Institute of Chemical Technology, the school has a unique science program that allows students to learn from India's top scientists, and to have heard from several recent Nobel Prize in Chemistry laureates. The school competes in, and has won, at the top levels of sport in the state. I strongly suggest that all those who previously voted to Delete should re-read the article and reconsider their vote. Alansohn 15:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Why hangon
Sorry dude, I was editing something else and my computer got messed up and I ended up pressing the wrong buttons. Not the intention to vandalise, even with this random IP. Really sorry.222.165.178.9 22:41, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

RE: Hastings, Ontario
Thanks for your confidence. I have been doing a lot of work on the article. We'll have to wait and see what the furture holds, and I'll continue fixing the article up. But even though it took so many nominations to reach GA status, I don't regret nominating it most of those times; I like to know other editors' opinions in order to improve my writing abilities and all of that. Dhastings 20:26, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

First off, thank you for your thorough review, once again. I realize that Hastings, Ontario certainly needs more work, and I was foolish to renominate it at such a premature time. However, I think I need to give you my opinion on your review, in order to use it to my advantage and Wikipedia's.

1- well-written: There are tons of phrases which need to be changed, such as "The Fowlds Family influenced the village of Hastings a great deal in its early history" (from "The Fowlds family"- also decide whether "family" should be capitalized or not), repitition of the phrase "vast majority" in "Demographics", "There is also a high school in nearby Norwood; the Norwood District High School." (this sentence basically states: there's a high school in town X called X High School), and "...life returns to the area, in the form of plants and animals" (from "Climate"). The entire "Location & Transportation" should go, as people don't need to know how exactly to drive from anywhere to anywhere else; Wikipedia isn't WikiTravel. The section headings have Manual of Style problems in relation to capitalization. "Economy & Tourism" still sounds like advertising.


 * Correct, I have been editing much of the work - another reason I should not have renominated it yet. Much of the information that you say should be removed is necessary to be kept. Honestly, I understand the need to condense the Location and transportation section, but I simply cannot remove it in its entirety. I don't see how "Economy and tourism" sounds like advertising. I have eliminated any and all ads. As for Manual of style problems, yes, I will be smoothing those out.

2(a)- references: Many sources are still unsourced. For example: "There are plans under consideration for a new shopping plaza to be built downtown." (from "Economy & Tourism"); "...making Hastings a central hub for tourists in the region." (from "Location & Transportation); the entire "Climate" section.


 * As you may have learned from reading the article, Hastings is a small village. It is absolutely impossible to source the new shopping plaza comment. I just heard locally that there were plans under consideration, though it is impossible to source that statement, and I may as well remove it. Unfortunately, not all statements are citable; one would have to assume that a small village with a marina and excellent fishing conditions would be a hub for tourist fishermen.


 * Now, Climate is a large section. I have recently worked on condensing it, and am considering shortening it even further. However, none of that information is citable, except for the climate statistics, which directly relate to the information I have written. I have a keen interest in the weather, and have lived in Ontario for many years, and lived in Hastings during the Christmas holidays, through the summer, spring and fall. Most of the non-statistical information is from my own knowledge. This can be rooted to fact through the statistics.

2(b)- citations: The first citation (regarding weather info) is broken; without it, an entire section of the text is completely unverifiable. The third citation, from hastingsvillage.ca, only goes to that main site; the citation should point to where specific information can be found.


 * No, the weather citation is not broken. And the hastingsvillage.ca link was my mistake, that is now corrected.

5- stability: In just the past six hours, much of the article has changed; while the changes were not due to edit wars, they were completely unrelated to splitting/merging, vandalism, or article protection.


 * I apologize for that. That was, again, my fault, as I renominated the article far too early.

6(a)- images: There's no reason for me to believe that Image:GrassCoatedInFrost.jpg is in any way related to Hastings, considering that the photographer lives in England. This is exactly the same as when the article had a photo of a lightning strike in Denver. If the picture was not taken in Hastings, it should be immediately removed.


 * That image is now removed.

Thank you again for the time you put in. I will be working to correct the issues. If you have anything to add, please do. Dhastings 17:56, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

What does "!vote" mean?
I saw you used the word and I've seen other people use it as well, but I'm not sure what in wikipedia terms in means? Does the "!" mean "I'm calling it a vote, but I know it's not actually a vote, technically"? thanks for any clarification... curious, Bwithh 16:03, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

BBC News 24 Good article failure
Many thanks for your time and the suggestions you have made. I will do my best along with others to address your concerns and hope to be in a position to renominate the article soon. I have also nominated the BBC News article for good article status; could you possibly like to also review that? Many thanks again. Wikiwoohoo 17:25, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

School AfDs
Please avoid comments such as this. They're in terribly bad taste, and I take personal offense to some of what you said. Just because I'm a deletionist, you classify me as having a certain personality type [that I play by my own rules and refuse to listen to others, especially when consensus exists (even though, in the case of schools, no such consensus is actually present)], even though you know nothing about me nor my editing habits. I commended you a few days ago on your improvement of an article that was put up on AfD; since then, most of what I have seen from you is attacks on others simply because they disagree with you, and it's quite disappointing. -- Kicking222 03:04, 21 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I had meant to thank you for the kind words and I'm sorry to be thanking you retroactively under these circumstances, but the remarks were most appreciated, considering that it was an article that was headed for certain deletion, was improved and will survive the AfD with flying colors. At least a remark that stated that "it should have been prodded, but regardless, here's the AfD" would have acknowledged that there was a blatant failure to follow policy. School articles seem to be increasingly targeted for AfD, citing all sorts of non-existent rules and guidelines. Failing to follow the real rules and guidelines only further demonstrates that there is no real effort at reaching consensus, only at pursuing an agenda. At least that's how the process seems to me. Alansohn 03:18, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

AfD
Greetings. You may be interested in Articles for deletion/University of North Carolina Tower Chapel Hill, which I have just listed. I would appreciate your input. --Descendall 09:22, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Image:KoC-Eirik.jpg
That's a great photo. Was it taken at the Paradise? If so, not just was I at that show, but I was standing first row, directly in front of Eirik. In fact, that was one of my favorite concerts ever. -- Kicking222 14:25, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Were you the one that started rapping? lol...  Yes, that was at Paradise, and so funny that you were there too!  I have a bunch of other pictures as well (probably one or two with you in the background!), though none of them came out that good, as I was using a not-so-great camera at the time.  Nevertheless, if you care to see them, just let me know, and I'll e-mail them to you.  Like you, I've been to a lot of concerts in the area, and I still contend that the KoC concert was my favorite ever.  My biggest pet peeve is a concert that is too loud, but KoC kept it calm and soothing, as always :o)  tiZom(2¢)  16:33, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Template:GAquickfail
I don't necessarily disagree with your usage of the template- in fact, I think it's a good idea. However, you really must remove the clause about an article being semi-protected; as per WP:WIAGA, stability and protection from vandalism are completely unrelated. -- Kicking222 18:46, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. Though technically not incorrect (if the semi-protection is from an edit war), it is misleading. Thanks for pointing it out. --SeizureDog 21:04, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Trappers Cabin
Okay, I made a mistake. It happens. I didn't see the word "fan" in the title of the documentary, and I mistakenly assumed it was legit. I was dealing with a CSD backlog of 200+ articles and I'm bound to screw up. In the future, when addressing me or any other editor who has made a decision you find questionable, it's probably better to politely ask them to explain their reasoning, rather than being snappy and sarcastic. I've deleted the article. Cheers. --  Merope  15:44, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Er, it seems I didn't take my own advice so well. After my morning Mountain Dew, I feel much more civil.  Sorry if I snapped at you--I'm just, y'know, a cranky old lady.  --  Merope  17:05, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Cool Stuff!
Hey, I stumbled on your user page and thought it was funny and cool. I totally agree with your stance on non-notability. I detest these vanity articles on some school "just because" it's a school and therefore it's notable. Looks like you're doing a good job, keep it up! Best regards, Icemuon 15:17, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Iceland (and Canada) are great places to live. Lots of beauty to go around!  Reykjavík has all the "big city" stuff with none of the hassle.  But you gotta like cooler weather!  Take it easy, Icemuon 16:55, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


 * LOL -- yes, I certainly see a deficiency of Icelandic nursery schools in WP:AFD. What's up with that?  We have notable infants too. Icemuon 10:46, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

My RfA
I would like to take the time to thank you for voting in my unsuccessful RFA. I'll be sure not to AFD article series like episode summaries without mailing list/VP discussion. Seriously. Have a nice day, and I apologize for the laggy response! (By the way, I'm a Splashdown/Freezepop fan too) -- Chris is  me 05:06, 9 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I heard about Splashdown through hearing Symbion Project work in Amplitude. There's absolutely no way I would've heard of them without that game. Yeah, I'll just keep editing. I wasn't sure I would pass, but at least I know with a few more moths, a buncha Neutrals would become Supports. -- Chris is  me 05:29, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Many 3RR?
I have been blocked twice; one of them was an 3RR violation, and that was an accident. The other was a very loose interpretation of the arbcom decision in the Ultramarine matter, which restricted all participants active on two specific articles. Stifle blocked both of us for an edit dispute on one line a third article, for a minimal period, as a warning. Neither of us had violated 3RR; we were both. I think, surprised.

I bring this up because I would not care to have such an exaggeration part of the record of the RfA. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 18:17, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for voting


Thank you for voting in my RfA which at 51/20/6 unfortunately did not achieve consensus. In closing the nomination, Essjay remarked that it was one of the better discussed RfAs seen recently and I would like to thank you and all others who chose to vote for making it as such. It was extremely humbling to see the large number of support votes, and the number of oppose votes and comments will help me to become stronger. I hope to run again for adminship soon. Thank you all once more. Wikiwoohoo 19:23, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

On AfD - Andrew Jesse Brown
I wouldn't ask a communist to comment on fascism impartially. I wouldn't ask a Nazi to comment on communism impartially. Your association with your academic institution automatically makes you unfit to comment on Andrew Jesse Brown. The question doesn't lie with liberal vs. conservative schools, the question lies with the rivalry between Brandeis and Fordham. I never made any mention of your religion -- you assumed it, as you assume knowledge of the article you are trying to delete. My recommendation for User:Kicking222: consider what knowledge you actually have and avoid situations that place you in direct conflict with any bias you may be accused of having. BrandNewCigarettes 16:39, 14 December 2006 (UTC) Ciggy Thank you for your input on the article. I look forward to making Wikipedia a better place... though not necessarily with your help. BrandNewCigarettes 16:54, 14 December 2006 (UTC) Ciggy
 * The fact is that the rivalry exists in ideology and, yes, in application/enrollment. You, once again, assumed knowledge of the political leanings of Fordham, calling it a "conservative" college.  It is, in fact, not.  I will civilly end this discussion, in which I feel that you:
 * Discounted my credibility due to my new application to Wikipedia
 * Assumed knowledge about a topic that you did not possess.
 * Call into the conversation unverifiable information about my peers, my University, and myself
 * Use strong and unnecessary language in your attempt to "prove a point"


 * If there really is a rivalry between Brandeis University and Fordham University, it might be a good idea to add that to their respective articles. For example, the University of Dayton article talks about their athletic rivalry with Cincy and Xavier, and University of Toledo mentions Bowling Green. --Gladlyplaid 17:02, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Whoops, that comment was supposed to be for BrandNewCigarettes, not Kicking222. Sorry! --Gladlyplaid 17:25, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

My recent RfA
Thank you for considering my RfA. It was a very humbling yet surprisingly gratifying experience. I definitely get the message about communication and I am grateful for all the other constructive comments that will undoubtedly make me a better contributer, and hopefully a stronger candidate in the future. Grika 14:54, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

AfDs
I am trying to drive home the point that if, as they say I must do, everything goes to AfD, nothing will get done but clog up AfD and keep nonsense floating around. User:Zoe|(talk) 19:28, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree absolutely. The idea that we should go out of our way, and clutter up AFD, to nurture "process" when there is zero chance of this A-league player ever being kept, is totally counterproductive. Fan-1967 19:30, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * So what am I supposed to do, just let nonsense go? badlydrawnjeff will just stalk me and challenge it whatever I do.  User:Zoe|(talk) 19:32, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but that's Jeff. I think that most people are aware that moving to his standards would gum up the works so badly that nothing could ever get done. Fan-1967 19:33, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

redirect
Thank you for making Test icicles into a redirect. That's really what I wanted to do, but my wiki-skills are not to sharp. &mdash;ScouterSig 20:44, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

VFD: Speedrun template
I noticed your comment on the deletion discussion of Template:Speedrun articles external links, in which you asked why any article would ever need it. IIRC it was originally created simply to keep the external links sections of the Time attack and Speedrun articles consistent. So, now you know why it existed - not for a very good reason. ;-) -- Nick RTalk 01:32, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Your userpage
You said: "How do you manage to get it vandalized so much? I don't think I've ever seen such an unassuming userpage that needed to be reverted so frequently."


 * Most of my actions on the Wikipedia are to revert vandalism. I've also started removing images violating WP:FU.  These are not necessarily good ways to endear myself.  In particular, reverting vandalism is a good way to get your user page vandalised.  At least, this is what I tell myself.  It's also possible that all the vandalism comes from bitter ex's.  But anyway, vandalism is just another way of expressing love.  :)  What actually surprises me is how rarely I have to revert my user page.  --Yamla 03:37, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

My RfA
Thank you for participating in my RfA, which did not succeed and was closed early at 2/10/9. I am not discouraged, however, and will use the experience to improve my skills until a later date when I may succeed. Yuser31415 20:50, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Neen art
I've rewritten the deletion nomination of the article Neen art. Frigo 09:42, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

e-"sports" afd
First off, I did scan each of them. 2nd, they weren't all delete. 3rd, as I stated, I don't see that playing a game, or winning a reward for playing a game, is notable. It's just playin a bleedin game! I did note, for the groups, that people should be culled out of them if they were notable for something other than being in a gaming group. So, you're comment is off base and uncalled for. SkierRMH 03:28, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
 * What you think should be notable doesn't matter. Maybe I don't think that shooting a stupid orange ball into a net should make anyone notable, but I don't put Michael Jordan's article up for AfD. The point was that they are notable per WP:BIO whether you like why they're notable or not. If you can argue against their notability rather than why they're notable, go right ahead. J0lt C0la 03:51, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

My apologies for the "none" - I reviewed the page quickly and included a non-relevant article in my count.

If you go back to the afd page, you will see that I did reverse a few of them, as J0lt has done a good job of showing notability for them.

Now, on to my question - which I hope will lead to a clarification in the WP:BIO definition:

E-gamers - what category is being used?
I'm not trying to PO people here, and this is a serious question from a non-sports person (the only sports I do are downhill skiing and figure skating (and a bit of college hockey years ago))... What criteria is being used for these people? My reading of the WP:BIO is along these lines...

From Notability (people) Where do e-gamers fall into the standard categories? They are not:
 * Political figures
 * local political figures
 * entertainment or opinion makers
 * actors or TV Personalities
 * Published authors, editors and photographers
 * Painters, sculptors, architects, engineers, and other professionals
 * Persons achieving renown or notoriety for their involvement in newsworthy events, such as by being assassinated

Can they be considered under the following:?
 * Sportspeople/athletes/competitors who have played in a fully professional league, or a competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport such as swimming, or at the highest level in mainly amateur sports or other competitive activities that are themselves considered notable, including college sports in the United States.

They aren't sportspeople or athletes - but they may be competitors; is this the category where their notability is being justified? I didn't think that this was the intent of this category; I read this as those that are actually physically competing. If e-athletes are to be judged under this criteria, I would urge a notation being made as such to prevent further confusion on the issue.

As I couldn't put them in any of the above categories, I fell back to the basic:


 * "The person made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in their specific field. - All of these criteria are in fact simply special cases of the general primary criterion of multiple non-trivial published works from independent sources. A person who is "part of the enduring historical record" will have been written about, in depth, independently in multiple history books on that field, by historians.

There may be articles written about these people, to whom I have no animosity, but can it be said that they are making a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in their specific field?

I do agree that several of the persons on the AFD list do have independent notability, and have noted so on their pages. However when looking at the field, I still say that these don't qualify as I don't see how they are part of the enduring historical record... (article - began playing):


 * Chris Smith (electronic sports player) - May 2005
 * Scott Lussier - July 2005
 * Eric Hewitt - April 2006
 * Ben Jackson (electronic sports player) - May 2005
 * Dave Walsh - March 2004
 * Brandon Jenkins - April 2006
 * Carlos Morales (electronic sports player) - April 2006
 * Michael Cavanaugh - April 2006
 * Victor de Leon III - "Victor has won no tournaments and has no notable placements in professional events."
 * Ryan Danford - May 2004
 * Zyos -"Leto quit gaming professionally after his former team, Xit Woundz, failed to place top 4 during the second event of the 2006 season."
 * TuLegit - ?

Again, I'm not trying to PO people here, would just like to see a clarification made for future disucssion on where exactly these people fit into the WP:BIO scheme!

Thanks for your patience with a non-gamer :) SkierRMH 05:55, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the support!
I appreciate your support in thwarting the attempt to wipe gamers off of Wikipedia. Could I possibly get your support in saving StrongSide's page? He's a former member of Carbon and a new member of Final Boss. I just can't find an article from a physical newspaper to cement it (though it's not actually required), so any extra sources are appreciated. By the way, I hope you don't mind that I left the guy above me a comment! J0lt C0la 03:51, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Per your comment on my page, I have a few links on him, I was just hoping for a link from a physical paper. I'd still appreciate you explaining on the page why he meets WP:BIO standards (I've written that phrase so many times in the last few days that it should have its own key on my keyboard). J0lt C0la 03:59, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Tami Lane
I'm sorry, but this was an incredibly poor move. Whether winning an Oscar is sufficiently notable or not (I certainly think it is), you attempted to speedy an article on someone who has a very obviously claim of notability. Please watch how you throw around speedy deletion tags. -- Kicking222 19:38, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I wasn't "throwing them around"-this user had some two-dozen single line articles, like she'd gone down a list of names and made bios for them, without even getting dates of birth. The tags were to encourage defense and improvement of the articles, which in this case it did. Please watch your tone when you make assumptions. Chris 19:45, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

song project
So should the project be scrapped? I was just trying to expand the project...Zigzig20s 22:05, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the info (and for being polite, I must say I appreciate that too), I do think it is a bit of a shame that we can't create an article for every song though. I like the idea of knowing what the lyrics are about, if anything.Zigzig20s 22:19, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

GA Delisting for MMORPG
Thank you for your comments regarding what you think is needed for relisting MMORPG on GA. I've recently become involved in improving this article (recently, as in the last few months), including adding about 25 citations to the article.

I've just removed a bunch of excess "See Also" links and was wondering if you'd comment on the discussion page as to whether that's adequate regarding your comment there. I've also proposed there that the last three sections should either be cited soon, or removed entirely.

Tarinth 23:44, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

crossbow for GA
Could you remove crossbow from GA nomination as soon as possible. The editor nominated it without either doing any contribution himself nor discussing it with any active editor. Wandalstouring 18:50, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

School AfDs
The proposals don't say they should be deleted either, so they don't provide any reasons for deletion based on lack of "notability", whatever that means. Also, I don't think I was referring to your "vote"; I'm pretty sure it was other people who were saying "delete per WP:SCHOOL". Cheers, JYolkowski // talk 19:51, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't see that implicit assumption at all. That probably needs to be spelled out or at least discussed further.  JYolkowski // talk 19:58, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Note about a deletion debate
Your comment at Articles for deletion/Les Balsiger seems to have been accidentially deleted by an anonymous user, who then posted their own comment. I thought you may want to know. J Milburn 01:24, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

New Pro Gaming WikiProject
I am trying to start a WikiProject for pro gaming articles, and since you have been so supportive and knowledgeable about the topic in the AfD's, I thought you might be interested in joining, even if just to get the project off the ground until I can find more people. If you are interested, here's the link to the proposal. . Thank you much!! J0lt C0la 22:32, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Ben Jackson (electronic sports player) up for deletion review
I was wondering if I could get your opinion on that Deletion review/Log/2006 December 30. He is Karma in the gaming world and currently ranked as both best FFA/1v1 Halo 2 player and is apart of the best team, Team Carbon  Valoem   talk  05:59, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Team Final Boss up for deletion review
Somehow, Team Final Boss got closed as a redirect/merge into the MLG page, but it has been re-created while a deletion review is underway. I thought you'd like to give your opinion on it here Deletion_review/Log/2006_December_30, because I guess my first argument wasn't good enough for them. Team Carbon got kept on a No Consensus, however. J0lt C0la 23:02, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

DRJH
For some reason I read your statement as saying you started the debate before the AFD closed. So I offer my apologies. I don't know how I did that, I read your nom a few times while composing my thoughts. I have struck my comment on the DRV and put an explanation on the page noting that I was incorrect. Again, I apologize. KnightLago 22:49, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

DuMont Television Network
Hi Kicking!

Thanks for your comments here. I appreciate your kind words, and your helpful suggestions during this article's peer review process. Thanks also for fixing the link to the list of Dumont Network affiliates, which I did not catch. If you see anything else that needs to be fixed, please do not hesitate to chime in on the FAC page, or, as always, on the article itself. Thanks again. Best wishes and happy editing, Firsfron of Ronchester  05:30, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your support
Thank you for your support in the RfA on my behalf. It is an honor to have received your expression of confidence. To be chosen as an administrator requires a high level of confidence by a broad section of the community. Although I received a great deal of support, at this time I do not hold the level of confidence required, and the RfA did not pass. It is my wish that I will continue to deserve your confidence. Sincerely, --BostonMA talk 18:58, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Sealab 2021
Thanks for the redirect. Since I had added prod and creator took it off, I felt I needed another to do the deed. Obina 17:43, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Take a looksey :)
Tell me what you think of the new and improved version of the page for Tom Ryan. Do you think it's up to encyclopedic quality, or do you suggest any changes? Thank you! J0lt C0la 03:42, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! (RE:RfA from Smcafirst)
Hi Kicking222,

Thank you for supporting me at the RfA, or at least at my talk page. I appreciate it so much! Just to notify you, I will be on RfA again in March 2007, and will you be willing to nominate me?

P.S. May I add you as my Wikifriend? See User:Smcafirst/Best Friends on Wikipedia for details.

Please Reply Soon!

-- Smcafirst or Nick  • Sign Here   • Chit-Chat •  Contribs ''' at 21:48, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

My Signature
Copied from my userpage....

''Please shorten your sig. In markup, it's incredibly long; in fact, it's probably the largest sig I've ever seen. It could potentially make it very hard to edit a page when eight lines of text are taken up by a signuatre. Thanks. -- Kicking222 22:41, 7 January 2007 (UTC)''
 * Your the second person in a day to say that, its only long because my names so long! On a serious note, I'm planning to sit down in the next few days and create a new shorter one. Sorry for any problems R y a n P o s t l e t h w a i t e See the mess I've created or lets have banter 22:43, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It is long, but, I like the signature. :) Navou   talk  04:40, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

RE we are here to change the world
thanks for the tip; I think that i did go a bit over the top. I appreciate the advice, and will keep it in mind in the future. thanks :) --Paaerduag 00:38, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Simpsons: "The Wife Acquatic" Brazil ref
wow I made it on here as fast as I could and you'd already inserted the latest Simpsons slap at Brazil. Touche! (And wow, this one was really mean!) NYDCSP 03:37, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: drv
To your first question -- it would depend if they were citing it in the course of making a cogent argument for deletion. Realistically, if nobody disagrees then the article is unlikely to be a great loss.

As to this article, it is sourced to my satisfaction at the moment. The independent OFSTED source is cited for the outside evaluation and the school's prospectus is cited for the historical information. Both sources seem reliable for the information they support. (The addition of these sources was a late development, which is why earlier comments at the AFD appear to contradict the facts. On a purely numerical basis, the sourced version of the article was running 3-2 for keep when the discussion was closed.) Christopher Parham (talk) 20:42, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Timeline of the burrito
Thanks for fixing the title! &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 00:12, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

AfD discussion for Liberty City Revenge
You can't put up idle chit-chat up on AfD discussions. It clutters up the discussion; an AfD is only for voting, and nothing else. I don't mean to be uptight about it, but I'm just stating a fact. BishopTutu 00:55, 9 January 2007 (UTC)


 * No, I'm sorry; it's just that I'm stressed out over this "GTA gangs" crap that a user keeps on agitating me about. I've explained to him how he's wrong about what he's talking about, but he won't listen, even when i give him the clearest of information, and I'm trying to convince him, because he could cause problems for the article, when its protection comes down. I'm just on edge a bit. BishopTutu 02:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)


 * That's true, it's just an article, but have you seen how much arguing we did in the List of Gangs talk archives? It's absolutely ridiculous; I had to archive it because it got too long, due to our arguments, and I know he'll try to get his GTA-uneducated, unsupported point across in the article somehow: he's sockpuppeted, for one, and he has use of multiple computers. BishopTutu 02:35, 9 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks, man. I've considered bringing in third parties, but this guy is particularly stubborn; he might just blow it off as me "lying" to get my way. But it's ok, I'll resolve it. Thanks for your concern, anyway, and "Happy Editing," as it were. BishopTutu 02:44, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

My Signature
You recently expressed concern about the length of my signature. Well............................... I've taken your advice and heres my new one! It may still seam a little long but I can assure you this is just because of the length of my name. Could you let me know if you think its OK? Ryan Postlethwaite See the mess I've created or lets have banter 16:17, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for your comments and I've added an apostrophe just for you! As you can probably tell, I'm a Pharmacology student and not an English one, but guess we should always get grammer right on Wikipedia!! Ryan Postlethwaite See the mess I've created or let's have banter 16:36, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

My RFA
Hey, thanks so much for supporting my recent RFA. A number of editors considered that I wasn't ready for the mop yet and unfortunately the RFA did not succeed (69/26/11). There are a number of areas which I will be working on (including changing my username) in the next few months in order to allay the fears of those who opposed my election to administrator.

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you sincerely for your support over the past week. I've been blown away by the level of interest taken in my RFA and appreciate the time and energy dedicated by all the editors who have contributed to it, support, oppose and neutral alike. I hope to bump into you again soon and look forward to serving you and Wikipedia in any way I can. Cheers! The Rambling Man 18:15, 11 January 2007 (UTC) (the non-admin, formerly known as Budgiekiller)

Help with GTA gangs article
As you may remember, there are still issues with the same user that I was arguing with before, except he has got himself a sockpuppet and is using said puppet to mess with the article. I hate to bring others into what are, technically, my battles, but I feel I have no other choice, especially if, for some strange reason, I get blocked (I haven't done anything to get blocked, but stuff happens sometimes.) I'm coming to you because you appear to actually give, at least, a little of a crap about GTA. I just want these issues resolved. And, by the way, this is BishopTutu. I've had my name changed, due to username violations. Klptyzm 17:21, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks and Letting you know
Thanks for your concern about my ear infection. I've had them before, but not as many times as you. I might have some hearing damage, I still have to wait and see how much it will heal. By the way, I have gone ahead and created the Pro Gaming WikiProject. You can add your name to the list and start contributing. I know that you will be an asset to the young project. Thank you. J0lt C0la 01:49, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Straw poll
Please take a look at WP:MALL to which you have contributed, with respect to proposals to merge it with WP:LOCAL, to continue developing it, or to go ahead and implement it as a guideline. Thanks. Edison 21:18, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Discussion about Congress
Would you be so kind as to go here and weigh in on the discussion? Thanks --Appraiser 15:47, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Newyorkbrad's RfA
Thank you for your support on my RfA, which closed favorably this morning. I appreciate the confidence the community has placed in me and am looking forward to my new responsibilities. Please let me know if ever you have any comments or suggestions, especially as I am learning how to use the tools. Best regards, Newyorkbrad 18:11, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

List of media personalities who have vandalised Wikipedia
It looks like the deletion police are trying to circumvent a previous AFD again. See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:List of media personalities who have vandalised Wikipedia. As you voted keep, could you cast your vote again? - Ta bu shi da yu 22:51, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

BAE Systems
Hi. Hope you are well. I am currently working on redlinks in this article (namely board member bios). When I have those finished I was thinking about a FAC. All of the peer review and last FAC suggestions have been addressed. The most important changes are an expanded lead, facts to provoke interest, an expanded history and a much expanded criticism section. Further suggestions from Tony1 have also been addressed. One of the main results has been the addition of the Position in its markets section. If you have time for a quick look sometime I would be really greatful - either to give your opinion on whether it's ready for a FAC or to make suggestions for further improvement. Thanks Mark83 15:08, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

DYK
Great job on the What's the Story article. Your contributions never fail to impress me, Firsfron. In fact, when I saw the article in DYK and read "DuMont Network", I assumed it was your work before even reading the article. While I was not surprised that it was your doing, I also was not surprised that it was so well-written. -- Kicking222 22:24, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Kicking!
 * Thank you so much for your kind words; you're like this cool cheerleader, you know? :) All I can say is "thank you." Yes, as there are currently very few people who regularly contribute to DuMont Network-related topics, you were probably right to assume this article was my work (although I'll mention someone else recently created the article on DuMont series The Strawhatters. I was a little shocked when I saw it suddenly appear one day on Category:DuMont network shows). As for What's the Story, I would really have liked to include a screen shot as a Fair Use image for the infobox, but since apparently no kinescoped episodes exist, that was sort of out of the question. :/ It was so cool to see the article on the Main Page after the miserable failure that was the DuMont FAC. Very uplifting. Anyway, thanks so much for your comments, Kicking. Best wishes and happy editing, Firsfron of Ronchester  01:07, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

My last RfA/me
Hi Kicking222! You opposed my last RfA in late November 2006. There were opposes citing civility and inexperience with policy. It's about 3 months after that, and I think I've gained more experiance in policy and more emotional stability on-wiki. Recently I've been doing a bit of WikiProject Spam stuff, though this last week I haven't had a great deal of time. Anyway, I was considering an RfA in a month or two, and I wanted to ask a few people if they had any recommendations as to what I should to or criticisms over the last few months. Thanks for reading! ST47 Talk 01:23, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Electronic sports quality
Watch out for: Article Creation and Improvement Drive: Electronic sports --141.24.43.104 15:37, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Samir Patel
Per your comments on the AfD, if you add the Washington Post and ESPN refs to the article I will change my vote to Keep. Wal ton  Vivat Regina!  16:59, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

List of premature obituaries
Hi Mike - thanks for your comments on this featured list candidate (FLC page). I've now made all the suggested changes that have come in, including yours re inconsistent use of footnotes/links (now all turned into footnotes), and too many entries with 'citation needed' (all but one of which I've cut). If you're happy with it now, I'd be grateful if you could provide a 'support' vote. Thanks! Ben Finn 13:44, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Smcafirst's 2nd RfA Request (Will you nominate me?)
Hi Kicking222,

Remember me? I am Smcafirst, the one who failed miserably in the January's RfA with only 33% consensus. Well, I will be on again at RfA probably next week. Will you be willing to nominate me? I will be on RfA probably during the weekend. (March 10 or March 11)Please see my Editor Review and make your decision. I have currently about 2700 edits, which is doubled of my edit count during my first RfA, and during the upcoming week, I'll probably squeeze 300 more edit counts.

Thank you, and please reply,

Smcafirst | Chit-Chat posted at 23:57, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Conservapedia
Things are good. Thanks for asking. Btw, have you considered running for adminship anytime soon? JoshuaZ 01:20, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Chris Gardner

 * FYI, discussion for delisting the GA status of the article Chris Gardner is taking place here. Notification was placed on the article's talk page some time ago... --Ling.Nut 03:25, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

My RfA
Thanks for your support in my recent RfA. I was successful, and I hope I can live up to those compliments. Shimeru 15:41, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

GTA Bounty
Write how the game changed my life or yours Richardkselby 03:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Hey Kicking222, thanks for your Support and helpful comments on Homer's Phobia's FAC, they were much appreciated, and the article passed. Gran2 17:28, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your support.
Dear Kicking222,

Thank you very much for your kind words and supportive comments on my recent RfA. I've been shot down again, so it won't be happening this time. I hope, though, that I can hear from you again next time around - and there definitely will be a next time.

Best wishes,

-- Hex [t/c] 20:57, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

List of premature obituaries
Hi Mike - this list has come up as a FLC again here (having run out of time before getting enough Support votes last time). I'd appreciate any further comments or your Support vote! Thanks Ben Finn 16:28, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Oracle of Ages and Seasons
Ages and Seasons are NOT the same game. Pokémon Red and Blue's only differences are some different Pokémon. Oracle of Ages has a completely different overworld, different equipment, characters, storyline (albeit one which is connected to Season's), mechanics (underwater is not in Seasons, nor is time travel), bosses, etc. I would be hard-pressed to say that Oracle of Ages and Seasons are each as long if not longer than Link's Awakening, so I suppose that LA is less of a game too. - A Link to the Past (talk) 18:21, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Zelda Oracles FAC
As someone who commented at the previous FAC for The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages, I thought you might be interested in the restarted nomination.  Pagra shtak  13:53, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

My RfA ...
Hi. Thanks for supporting my request for adminship and for your generous words; I hope to justify your confidence in me. The RfA was successful and I am now an admin. If I can ever be of help, please let me know. Cheers, Black Falcon (Talk) 06:14, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

My RFA
Hi Kicking, just a quick note to say thanks for participating in my request for adminship. It was successful and I now have some shiny new buttons. If I can ever be of help, please let me know. Happy editing, mattbr 10:07, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Postage stamps of Ireland FAC
Posted some comments on the FAC page now that I have added some more inline citations to the section mentioned. Cheers ww2censor 03:49, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Just a quick thank you for participating in the Postage stamps of Ireland FAC. Your input was very useful and I have learned a lot from the process. Whether you raised issues, assisted with some cleanup, opposed or supported the article, thanks again for all you do for Wikipedia. ww2censor 15:43, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

AFD Opinion
Since I saw you contributed to a recent AFD I posted (Former Fat Boys), I was curious about your opinion on Mayhem Morearty. I'd really like to nominated it for AFD, but with 845 Google hits and some mentioning in some articles (although none appear to meet WP:V), I'm not certain that there would be a delete consensus. Thoughts? Jauerback 00:33, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I've submitted it for AFD. Thanks for your advice. BTW, no one else has picked up on the username before (at least they haven't said anything).  Jauerback 15:07, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

AFD
Re: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spirit and Resistance: Political Theology and American Indian Liberation, I think Hrothgar means George in Old English. Can you check this user? Bearian 19:49, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

BAE Systems FAC.
Hello again! Thanks for your comments. I totally understand - you have to be in the right mood to analyse such an article! I look forward to any other comments you might have. Thank you. Mark83 20:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Hello Tomorrow
A template has been added to the article Hello Tomorrow, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the  notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you endorse deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please tag it with db-author. Montchav 10:12, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Struck comment
Much as I don't like it, you're probably right. — [&#8239;aldebaer&#8288;] 14:25, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I just wish (naively so, I suppose) people would come around to realise and accept that adminship is solely about trust. However, you've earned yourself a smile from me. Thanks for being one of the sensible people. — [&#8239;aldebaer&#8288;] 15:37, 15 September 2007 (UTC)



has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.


 * Speaking of sensible, Kicking, have you considered becoming an admin? I've seen your AFD work, and it's pretty solid. Firsfron of Ronchester  16:50, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, yes, there's that, too. Are you interested in pursuing an RFA, Kicking? Firsfron of Ronchester  20:52, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Mike,
 * Your new sig looks nice, I think. :) I've replied to your latest e-mail. Best, Firsfron of Ronchester  07:33, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Bwah! Thanks for the "Japanese cat". Yeah, you've got a sig now that doesn't violate WP:SIG, but is still more personalized. Since it is still early here, I will edit while you sleep... Cheers! Firsfron of Ronchester  07:52, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, e-mail has been sent. Best, Firsfron of Ronchester  23:17, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hee! Don't worry; no one can spell such a ridiculous username. I've been called "Firstron", "Fistron", "Frisfron", "Firston of Rochester", etc. No worries. :) Firsfron of Ronchester  03:30, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh, man... what can I say?
I passed RfA! And, I tell you, there's absolutely no way I could have done it without you. You've been cheerleading for me the whole way. I'm really humbled by the degree of belief in me you've shown to everyone - and I just saw your user page. Just... wow.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

— Hex    (❝  ?!  ❞)   13:17, 20 September 2007 (UTC)