User talk:Kid Kermit

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 * I've been blocked and unsure why. Was just following the instructions and prompts as they came to me. I'm new here and not sure where I've gone wrong. Kid Kermit (talk) 21:48, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * You've been indefinitely blocked for block evasion. Look at your block log for more details. See WP:GAB for appealing blocks.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:28, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * According to your block log you have been blocked for block evasion. The block you allegedly tried to evade seems to be an IP block for 120.17.29.252 for disruptive editing. Both blocks were performed by @Graham87. You can ask him for more information. You can also appeal the block (see also: WP:Guide to appealing blocks). -- Random person no 362478479 (talk) 00:29, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much! Kid Kermit (talk) 23:12, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much! Kid Kermit (talk) 23:12, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Explanation request
Hi @Graham87 I don't understand why I've been blocked, could you please provide some more information for me? Kid Kermit (talk) 23:21, 25 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Looks like your ping didn't work. See WP:MENTION on how to ping someone. Pinging @Graham87. -- Random person no 362478479 (talk) 01:50, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Because I'm almost completely certain you're the same person as 120.17.29.252, who I blocked for disruptive editing. I'm not going to say why I think this to not give you any ideas but it should be obvious to most experienced users. Your edits are disruptive anyhow. Wikipedia relies on reliable sources. Graham 87 02:19, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Graham87 I went through Kid Kermit's contributions. There are only a few edits and they seem to consist of minor copy editing. Exactly the kind of stuff new users are encouraged to do in the form of "newcomer tasks". I can see people disagreeing on whether or not these edits are improvements, but I can't see how they could be seen as disruptive. Am I missing something? (I did not go through the IP's edits.) -- Random person no 362478479 (talk) 18:23, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * This edit added unsourced text that is not in the reference. Graham 87 04:54, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * True. It looks like it was taken from the lead of the Megalodon article. But reference issues are to be expected by newcomers. As long as this is not a long-term pattern we should assume that this is due to lack of experience and can be remedied by proper guidance. I've looked over the edits made by the IP and it looks the same to me. Minor copy editing where any issues can be explained by inexperience. The IP was active from May 11 to May 14 and made 51 edits, Kid Kermit was active on May 23 and made eleven edits. Even if they are one and the same that's just 62 edits with less than two weeks between the first edit and the block. I think it's too early to give up on Kid Kermit. For now I believe it would be sufficient to point out issues where they arise and steer them to the information they need to learn and improve. Should it turn out that they are unwilling or unable to do that they can still be blocked down the line. But we shouldn't assume that and give them a chance.
 * So @Kid Kermit I don't know if you have any experience with academic writing, citing sources, etc. Whether or not you do you should, if you haven't already, go through some of the help pages. Some of the most important are:
 * WP:Verifiability
 * WP:Reliable sources
 * WP:Citing sources
 * WP:Biographies of living persons
 * You can find a ton more at Help:Directory. And if you run into problems or have any questions you can always post at the WP:Teahouse or the WP:Help desk. -- Random person no 362478479 (talk) 09:06, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not willing to take admin advice from someone with only two months of experience and just a shade over 500 edits whose contribution history is incredibly unusual, to say the least. As for the IP, Fifty-one edits over three days is an incredibly fast pace for a supposedly new user. Also, this user probably edited as 120.17.98.221 and I'm fairly sure I've encountered their editing pattern before then. Kid Kermit, if you can provide an example of a referenced contribution you'd like to make, I could consider unblocking you. Graham 87 15:15, 27 May 2023 (UTC)