User talk:KiharaNoukan

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I look forward to you berating me about that for the rest of my life.

it was dumb of me, ok? happy now? soibangla (talk) 09:13, 14 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I point it out, because that is the only actually relevant sourcing that exists anywhere at all to contradict the massive amount of RS that describes Trump as being shot. What's the theory here? A glass bottle dropped from a plane got in between the bullet and Trump, slicing up his ear with fragments? KiharaNoukan (talk) 09:16, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * reporting doesn't have to contradict it
 * if the man was shot, they would say he was shot soibangla (talk) 09:19, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Well we have plenty of RS that do in fact say it, in their own words. Some people say the same thing in different ways, that doesn't indicate a dispute with reporting by everyone from BBC to Axios. KiharaNoukan (talk) 09:25, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I just showed you that more don't than do, regardless of your corrections. we need to err on the conservative soibangla (talk) 09:30, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I haven't gotten around to fact checking your entire list, I've already found that both BBC and WSJ report Trump was shot, despite your claims otherwise. But guess what, they also simultaneously report Trump was injured too! It's almost as if RS do not believe that being shot and being injured are in any way mutually exclusive. You're trying to create a dispute with what multiple RS have reported, that does not exist. KiharaNoukan (talk) 09:33, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * more don't than do. I am done here. soibangla (talk) 09:36, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * No. You do not. Many of the sources you reference, without linking, do in fact say that Trump was shot. KiharaNoukan (talk) 10:00, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Soibangla
 * Regarding your offer, you can donate to the shooting victims via the official gofundme (hyperlink is in the article) United24, given effective altruism and what I've learned about the proclivities of a certain attendee. Let me know what you have in mind for your end. KiharaNoukan (talk) 23:38, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Soibangla
 * Do we accept Snopes as an arbiter of your offer? If not, let me know what we can rely on. KiharaNoukan (talk) 01:34, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * clarify. haha.
 * soibangla (talk) 06:03, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Snopes:
 * there most certainly is not. hahaha! soibangla (talk) 07:31, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'd guess the FBI/USSS have already talked to these officers:
 * soibangla (talk) 08:35, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * so, we now have Pittsburgh news reporting four individuals "just feet away from Trump" suffered minor injuries from flying debris during the incident, while there remains no evidence whatsoever that Trump was struck in the ear by a rifle bullet. a reasonable person might deduce this suggests Trump also suffered a minor injury from flying debris like the other four, but maybe we should wait to see what the FBI/USSS says before the big $50 prize is awarded. soibangla (talk) 10:58, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Ken Dilanian/Julia Ainsley of NBC report that Secret Service spox confirmed bullet, not glass, struck Trump KiharaNoukan (talk) 05:59, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * so, we now have Pittsburgh news reporting four individuals "just feet away from Trump" suffered minor injuries from flying debris during the incident, while there remains no evidence whatsoever that Trump was struck in the ear by a rifle bullet. a reasonable person might deduce this suggests Trump also suffered a minor injury from flying debris like the other four, but maybe we should wait to see what the FBI/USSS says before the big $50 prize is awarded. soibangla (talk) 10:58, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Ken Dilanian/Julia Ainsley of NBC report that Secret Service spox confirmed bullet, not glass, struck Trump KiharaNoukan (talk) 05:59, 20 July 2024 (UTC)