User talk:KillerWhaleGuy

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The Wikipedia tutorial is a good place to start learning about Wikipedia. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. By the way, you can sign your name on Talk and discussion pages using four tildes, like this: &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126; (the software will replace them with your signature and the date). Again, welcome! Zefr (talk) 14:55, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I found your edits of the Luna article were too much narrative . Wikipedia is not a newspaper, term paper or textbook, WP:NOTESSAY, and your edits added selective narratives of essay content questionable for sourcing ("Luna was determined...") and beyond encyclopedic content, i.e., WP:NOTEVERYTHING. You can reply here on your talk page, if you wish further feedback. Zefr (talk) 15:00, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Zefr... I will attempt to go back in and rework my edits on the Luna page, per your suggestions. How will I know if the changes I made meets the criteria? Will the flags be removed? This has been very frustrating to me, and as I've noted, appear to be driven largely by an editor with a relationship to the page's subjects, Michael Parfit and Suzanne Chisholm, AND IN FACT much of the page uses Parfit and Chisholm as a source, and removes any cited reliable source that is critical of their actions in regards to this orca. It is also promotional, as it promotes Parfit's and Chisholm's commercial film, "The Whale." Please advise. Thanks.
 * First, please remember to sign and timestamp your talk page comments by using the signature icon or four tildes. There is an open ANI discussion about your editing (page bottom) and potential copyright violation. You shouldn't edit again until these issues are resolved in your favor. I don't see your objection on references in the Luna article - I've reviewed them, and feel they are reliable sources that have been in the article for years, in some cases. Major changes in the article should be introduced first on the talk page for review and comment to gain consensus among other editors, WP:CON. Zefr (talk) 04:41, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

February 2021
Hi KillerWhaleGuy! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia – it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Thank you.  Grey joy talk 06:20, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

One of your recent edits has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images&mdash;you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Copying text from other sources for more information. 2601:188:180:B8E0:8804:65CA:7CE3:366C (talk) 06:24, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Question from a new editor -- can any quote be used from a reliable source, or is that in violation of copyright? I am trying to understand how to resolve the copyright problem noted. (talk) 23:18, 2 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Please divulge your conflict of interest, per WP:COI guidelines, as well as your association with previous editors to these articles. Thank you, 2601:188:180:B8E0:8804:65CA:7CE3:366C (talk) 06:53, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Please see below. KillerWhaleGuy (talk) 23:22, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

ANI notice
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:19, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

ANI, redux
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:50, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. Please see below. KillerWhaleGuy (talk) 01:00, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest (automated text-generating template)
Hello, KillerWhaleGuy. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. El_C 05:06, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. Please see below. KillerWhaleGuy (talk) 01:00, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Personal follow up
Hi. Speaking with the IP above, you still failed to declare whether you actually have a conflict of interest (i.e. any relationship with, for or against, whatsoever) with any of the subject matters in the pages that you've been editing. So, please do that (expressly so) prior to making any further edits to these pages. Thanks in advance. P.S. I am not a bot, I am a Wikipedia administrator. El_C 05:06, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Note that I have also partially blocked you from the three articles that you've been editing thus far (though you are still welcome to use the respective article talk pages). Please note that the above applies to any additional whale-esque articles. El_C 05:23, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Awesome! Thank you so much for your response. I'm afraid that I'm not an experienced writer or editor and new to Wikipedia. I believe that I have already expressly declared that I don't have any relationship with the subject matters in the pages I've been editing. Let me reiterate that here. I am an entirely new editor to Wikipedia, have never established an account before, and have been primarily using a public WiFi server at a large Seattle business lately, in its cafe. Scores of others do the same every day. I am a independent audio/video technician living in Everett, WA but I work a lot in Seattle and used to live there years ago. I am not sure if this qualifies as an association, but a common subject matter on the pages is related to Orca Conservancy, an organization that I have donated to over the years and have followed closely, as a person who loves orcas. I am not a member of the group. I am not sure any group has been in the news more than Orca Conservancy, especially during the rescue of the orcas Springer and Luna here in the Pacific Northwest. I do not follow the group as much as I used to and I am not sure they still exist. My familiarity with the group and Michael Harris is only through his appearances in the news and my own research. Ironically that research relied heavily on Wikipedia and earlier versions of both the Luna article and the one on Mr. Harris. My first editing attempt was to restore some of the important content that I remember being well-cited and reliable (although somewhat-negative) that had been removed by previous editors. As I reviewed these edits, it seemed that reliably sourced and cited content (e.g. The Seattle Times, and the Harbour Press book, "OPERATION ORCA") were replaced by content sourced from a podcast with Michael Parfit and Suzanne Chisholm, and themselves, and it promotes their commercial film in the article twice (as "Saving Luna" and "The Whale"). These would appear to violate Wikipedia rules. Also, as someone who followed the Luna the orca story closely, the controversy surrounding the death of Luna and the failure of the project is entirely removed from the article. What's more, Mr. Parfit and Ms. Chisholm were at the very center of that controversy, according to these sources, such as the Los Angeles Times and OPERATION ORCA. Lastly, the editor/editors making these substantial changes, again relying on Parfit/Chisholm sources, appear to have greatly diminished the role of the Orca Conservancy and the other Seattle groups and people who were involved in trying to save that whale, including Jeff Foster, who is not even mentioned. This article does not need to be a novel, but readers need a fuller treatment of the subject matter. As it is, the efforts on behalf of Luna were the most reported story in the region, and frequently made national and international news. Nonprofit groups have preserved all of those articles, including the Orca Conservancy in its "Luna File." Certainly almost everything written about Luna is retrievable. My edits and additions (restorations in most cases) should be accepted, if they follow the rules of the Community. As I said, I'm working hard to learn those rules and contribute to the platform. Please let me know when you can unlock my editing on these pages and let me try this again. Thanks for your patience and understanding. -KillerWhaleGuy KillerWhaleGuy (talk) 23:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

OH YES, and to expressly clear -- I am NOT being paid!! I'm just a guy who cares about orcas. KillerWhaleGuy (talk) 23:06, 2 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes, KillerWhaleGuy, I get that you, yourself, payed-in rather than were payed-out, but I still deem it a COI. Maybe another uninvolved admin will see it different, though (in which case, I'll maybe reconsider). Who knows. But that seems unlikely, to be honest. El_C 23:34, 4 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Uninvolved admin here - moving forward, what you need to do is to raise issues with the articles at their talk pages, suggesting improvements and backing them up with reliable sources. If, over a period of time, you can demonstrate that you can be trusted to improve the articles in keeping with our core policies, then it may be possible to lift the blocks that restrict you from editing the articles. If you haven't already done so, I suggest that you read all the pages linked from the Welcome Notice at the top of your talk page. Doing so will give you a much better overview of what Wikipedia is about. Mjroots (talk) 12:41, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, Uninvolved admin. I will do exactly that. 21:49, 10 March 2021 (UTC)