User talk:Killing Vector/Archives/2006/April

Talk:Pro Patria Union (Estonia)
There is no reason for giving reference to fascism there; actually, i'd consider as vandalism or an act by a completely ignorant user. The party just another conservative IDU and EPP member, the only thing that makes it look more nationalistic (compared to German CDU/CSU or British conservatives) is its past pro-independence fight against the Soviet occupation. (Compared to precedents of today's Estonian Centre Party and Social Democrats, PPU was more radical at the time). Thus, the party is conservative (plus christian democratic to a certain extent) with an emphasis on patriotism. --Constanz - Talk 12:40, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

And our independence Party (see fascist parties list/history) is an euro-skeptic centrist party, and no way far-right. Eesti Rahvuslaste Erakond (really a small far-right group) has been extinct for almost a decade, so I'd like to know, who really made such ridiculous and inappropriate changes? --Constanz - Talk 12:44, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

As I see you're contributing to articles smth to do with fascism, I've recently created Jean-Louis Tixier-Vignancour (from fr.wiki) You might revise it.--Constanz - Talk 14:08, 30 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I think your last changes on "Pro Patria" are not NPOV at all, as "far right" is not intrinsically POV, it is only understood so by some people. Okay, maybe it should be documented more. But Constanz is completely downplaying what is really up with this party, which shares many views, localized of course, with the post-Mussolini party in Italy, the LePen people in France, and so on. And if you take a classic indicator of Faschism, they might not fully match, but you will check off many items as well, including a certain militaristic touch. I think it is just ridiculous to say that because they are in some group in the Eurpoean Parliament, they must also be part of that system; these affiliations are skewed and where basically voluntary in the beginning. That Isamaaliit moved to the far right in the 2000s is absolutely clear, and nobody, not even the party itself, contests that. It is maybe not an issue some time very soon, because they go together now with another party, but for accuracy's sake, this is not okay. 84.174.242.49 06:32, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

USSR
I'm intrigued as to why you removed my comment on Chuck Berry and the Beatles' use of the term 'Georgia' on their records, describing it as 'speculation'. Do you really think that it is speculation to say that Chuck Berry was talking about the US State while the Beatles were talking about the Soviet Republic? For great justice. 23:45, 2 April 2006 (UTC)


 * On the one hand, Wikipedia users are not stupid and can recognize a pun. On the other, "Georgia on My Mind" is a Ray Charles song. --Stlemur 23:56, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Re Ray Charles, you are right, re Wikipedia users, you have no idea whether Wikipedia users have the cultural background to know this. Imagine a Kenyan schoolchild looking this up, with little knowledge of US or Soviet geography or culture. Please try not to write just for educated Americans. For great justice. 02:49, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

People other than Americans know where both Georgias are. If it's such an obscure fact, then why include the words "of course" in your statement of it? --Stlemur 10:51, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * So take out 'of course'. I think its not clear that everyone outside of the US knows that both the US and the USSR had / have Georgias. For great justice. 16:52, 3 April 2006 (UTC)