User talk:Killing sparrows

Adoption
I would like to be adopted because I would like to learn how to find out if what you want to add to the page is already on the page without reading the entire thing, and how to find out if an article is notable enough to be added to the site.

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Adoption
AmazeStar

Changes/Additions made by AmazeStar
On 07.05. 24, worked on Delaware County Ohio

Delaware County, Ohio - I added References and sections - Rivers and lakes, Transportation (Highways and Airports), Media, Points and Activities of Interest, and Notable natives and residents.

Tabula Rasa
This page was archived on 24 April 2007. Previous discussions are in archive 1. -- killing sparrows  (chirp!) 00:55, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

adoption
Please adopt me. Rollerblade guy 02:21, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

my intrests are: how do you make user boxes, how do you tell if a pafe is vandalized ansd how to revert it--Rollerblade guy 19:52, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

varied thrush
I'm afraid I was lazy, just rolling back instead of taking a bit more time. Nepal is on the wish list, but I think it will be Thailand next. I've never seen varied thrush, but it looks wonderful. Which St Paul Island - NS or Alaska? sound like an idyllic life, cheers '''Jimfbleak. talk.'''07:26, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

I accept your offer!
Hi killing sparrows! I am delighted to accept your offer of adoption. Please make it official :) Zaindy87 08:17, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Adoption Offer
Hello, Sparrows! Thanks for the reply! I only recently learned of he adoption program, and while I am familiar with the basic functions of wikipedia, there are plenty of things I'd enjoy having someone teach me about, specifically about the more intricate details about Wikipedia's Policy as well as Wikipedia's various processes. If you're interested in teaching me these, I'll gladly accept! // 3R1C 12:12, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

re: Adoption
Hi there Fang Aili, I am slowly going through all the users listed as wanting adoption and seing if they are still actively requesting adoption. Some have been on the list for months and either have figured WP out or are inactive. I noticed you have adopted User:Athangjain but his page still has the 'seeking' tag. could you change the tag if you are his adopter? Thanks!

PS, I'll be leaving a note on the Adoption talk page re: this and other stuff in a day or, you might check there if your interested in the program and the talk page isn't on your watch list. Cheers!-- killing sparrows  (chirp!) 05:42, 27 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Should be fixed now. Thank you for coordinating things! --Fang Aili talk 19:15, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Schools & Notability
Thanks for your comment. I would advise you not to bother trying to establish some kind of consensus on this. If you exclude the comments in the school-related AfDs of one or two users who are easily-enough ignored, it is clear that there is little profound acrimony here. Compared to several years ago when every school debate produced pages and pages and pages of usually-venomous argument, the current state of affairs is a largely happy truce. I would welcome such a policy, as I have noted, but it frankly isn't going to happen. I would observe that so-called (self-styled) inclusionists tend to get very very worked up over such matters - be it schools, or roads, or citation policy, or notability guidelines. I can think of right away a half dozen or so such users who have quit the project in a tantrum of self-righteous indignation, convinced they are somehow warriors of knowledge doing battle against evil. That kind of attitude tends to distort the debate, but at its heart its a boring combination of froth, cant and pablum. Participate in these debates if you wish, but leave it at that: as you say, don't die on this hill, it ain't worth it. Eusebeus 11:47, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I think a full-on WP:KEEPALLSCHOOLS policy would create a worse problem than it solved, as some school articles are true sub-stubs ("Dingleberry Primary School is a school in California") which would keep being prodded come what may. Personally, I'd go with some variation on "keep all high schools, everything more junior has to prove it", but that still leads to problems, not least that the equivalent of "high school" varies from country to country. It would also distort WP:ORG quite badly, since it would lead to minor schools being officially more N than prima facie more significant colleges, corporations etc. This is an argument nobody's going to reach agreement on, I think the current case by case resolution is probably the least worst option. —  irides  centi   (talk to me!)  13:03, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

You will note that most of the participants have dropped out of the debate, including users like Kappa, one of the all-time leading wikipedia contributors, confirmed inclusionist (to an absurd extent) and someone for whom most of us have considerable respect, Jaranda, Tony_Sidaway, A_Man_In_Black, Kuzaar, JzG (another all time great editor), etc etc etc.... So don't sweat it. Far better contributors than I (and maybe some others) (and on both sides of the debate) have examined this issue in depth; while some may feel it is still worth replying to every delete vote and explaining how deletionists ignore policy and guidelines, whilst deletionists continue to insist that schools are mortar and not much more, anyone who has been here for a while knows the issue is not easily resolved and has better things to do than waste much time on it. Comment, and be serene whatever the outcome and leave it at that. Eusebeus 23:28, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
 * While it may seem the current debate is rather acrimonious, if you remove certain participants to the debate (me, others...), you will see that the case-by-case basis that iridescenti refers to above is actually not a bad way to go, given the intractable nature of the dispute. You can check out these discussions for a taste of what incivility and passion used to prevail (just a small sample):
 * 1) Articles for deletion/Leigh High School
 * 2) Articles for deletion/West Green Primary School, Crawley

Copey edit tag
I've created many articles. Watch the list on my user-page, and see if ou can improve spelling on some of 'em. Most of my articles are pretty good; watch the Dorus Rijkers article, for example! -)-(-Haggawaga (&#124;-&#124;) Oegawagga-)-(- 21:08, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Adoption
Hello, I have gone through the entire list of adoptee's and have
 * Removed adoptee tags from users who are indefinably blocked.
 * Asked users whom have been adopted to remove the tags.
 * Offered adoption to users who had no messages.

the plan isnt to adopt EVERYONE on the list, but i am able to adopt a few. I feel that its better to message them and let them know that someone is interested in helping out, then not having anyone at all for them to ask questions to. As well as that, i can always pass them off to other adopters, but it seems like you are one of the only ones that are active. Matthew Yeager 04:46, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
 * ahhhh, i posted my changes in A-A-U, adopters section. I'll visit the regular talk page and post my actions and whatnot. thank you! Matthew Yeager 05:26, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Adoption Revised
hello again! wow, after reading through the AAU talk page, I think we are on the same track of thinking! you have alot of good ideas and hopefully you will think the same of mine. what kind of templates are you thinking of making and what is the status on them ? i would really like to get this program back on its feet and remove this backlog! let me know what you think about my ideas please. Matthew Yeager 06:12, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Adoption, again
I've suggested at Wikipedia talk:Adopt-a-User that we (i.e. AAU adopters) go ahead and send out your proposed message later today (UTC - I'm in the UK, so it's 16:10 local time) if nobody else has a view. I'm happy to have a go with WP:AWB, if it helps - I don't know if you've got access (but if not, it's very helpful!). Let me know what you think - I don't want to tread on your toes, and I certainly won't be claiming the credit for this one! Bencherlite 15:11, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

New adopter with nothing to do!
Hi.

I've been reading up on your view on the Adoption scheme, and have decided I would be willing to help out although don't feel I should contribute to your discussions for now until you sort your plans out, and I can learn about how the scheme pans out from then on. I have added myself to the adopter table, but have since found that all users awaiting adoption have been offered match ups. Having read about 5 mins earlier about a large backlog, I can only assume that one editor has gone a bit mad and offered to adopt them all. I guess I'll just keep checking and let things calm down a little.

–MDCollins (talk) 16:54, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Adoption?
Thank you for the offer; I would love to be adopted! Should I take down the box now? Fortunia 17:43, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Trident Seafoods
It's true. Give me a little while to find some sources, but if I can't, I'll remove them. (Umm, I worked as a temp in the human resources department, so I can personally vouch for both statements, but that violates WP:NOR.) Zweifel 00:06, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi, 'Killer'..thanks for your response regarding my questions to Matthew. Anyway, do you think Matthew is being a little too enthusiastic in this AAU? He takes on too many adoptees, in my opinion. Zachary crimsonwol f 13:14, 14 November 2006 (UTC) 14:55, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

deletion review of List of Philippine Presidents by longevity
I've asked for a deletion review of List of Philippine Presidents by longevity. Since you participated in the deletion discussion for this article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. -Fagles 20:26, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

adoptees
yea there was actually an edit conflict for me cause you posted :P so i decided to come back to that one later in case you had more to say. no man, its awesome that you are picking through and helping out where you can ! i really appreciate it! tending to adoptees is now my full-time wiki job :P  ummm things are going well so far, i do have alot but i'm managing... getting everyone set up with what they wish to learn. Have some more experienced ones doing some pretty cool stuff. I have had 1 or 2 adopters tell me they can assist me with some, so i'm dishing those out tonight as well! how is everything going for you ? Matthew Yeager 04:56, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Forgive me for butting in here, but... Matthew, it probably isn't a good idea for tending to adoptees to become your full-time wiki job because it prevents you from gaining more experience in other fields that would be useful to help adoptees e.g. by participating in deletion discussions at AfD or CfD, or working with images, or whatever. I'm not saying everybody needs to know everything (and I know I have much to learn myself: I know little about the copyright rules, for example, and you could beat me every time when it comes to computer code) but (looking at your contribution history) you are still quite new here yourself and you've spent much of your time to date reverting vandalism (which is good but often a relatively mundane task) or editing your user/talk page, which boosts your edit count but adds little to the project (see Editcountitis for an amusing essay!).  You need to give yourself a chance to learn more about other areas of WP too in order to become an "all-rounder", which will only help you in helping others and in achieving your long-term goals. Anyway, I am glad to hear that you are managing with your adoptee load - please remember that we're only trying to help you.  Sincerely, Bencherlite 09:02, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Advice well taken and that is indeed my plan (to be well rounded in wiki-ness). its just that right now is my "experience the adoption process \ program" time in my wiki lifetime. I defiantly plan on moving on and making more contributions to the mainspace wiki, yet i just felt that the current AAU state of sadness needed some attention. I thank you for your comments and I hope that you will check in later to let me know what you think as I grow here at wiki. thank you! Matthew Yeager 23:44, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * (Butting in again, sorry KS!) I understand entirely.  I'm going through a "contribute to WP:CFD phase", having previously been in a "let's tackle vandalism phase".  The beauty of WP is that there is so much to do, from creating new articles, improving other people's work, defending articles from attack, and sorting them into an orderly system of categories, through to discussing ways of improving WP, helping people and so on.  Have fun.  I'm off on holiday now for two weeks, but I'm sure everything at AAU will be completely sorted by the time I come back and all your adoptees will have become Bureaucrats in record time!  Best wishes, Bencherlite 23:50, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Cold Corfu
Appreciate the follow-up note. Would have been very interesting if it had been prehistoric ice, but probably pretty improbable. Ice caves for refrigeration though - that's an old technology that makes sense. Skaal - Williamborg (Bill) 23:51, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Messaging adopters
Good idea about contacting the existing adopters, and your message looks fine to me. I would volunteer to do it now, but it's 1.15am and I ought to go to bed right now - and then, as you may have read, I'm off on holiday soon! I suggest that (if you don't have AWB) you make an appeal for someone with AWB or similar to post the message, rather than do it manually, as that would take ages. As for the effect of the new template, I quickly discovered that I know zip about complicated coding. However, the effect of Sopoforic's new template is that existing requests don't update to the new format, but new requesters following the instruction to "subst" the template will be listed in chronological order under "2" at Category:Wikipedians seeking to be adopted in Adopt-a-user - and there is someone there, so someone needs to grab him / her fast! I've just gone and highlighted the instructions for potential adoptees on the main AAU page and the adoptees' area subpage, to make it clear that there are two choices, and to try and hint that asking directly may be quicker. Have a look and see what you think. Anyway, goodnight from London and speak to you in mid-May. Yours, Bencherlite 00:17, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree that it's probably a good idea to send out a message to adopters--it's not just the potential adoptees who might need a 'wake-up call.' The message that you have provided looks pretty good, too, but you probably ought to include a link to the project and the talk page, just for convenience. Unfortunately, I don't use AWB (although I probably ought to request permission to use it; I just never got around to it), but you should be able to post a request on WP:BOTREQ for someone to send this message to everyone.

Regarding the template I made: I am pretty sure it's not possible to have it automatically order people by date who already have the template on their pages, which is why we have bots that go around adding the dates to maintenance templates. We could do it by hand in perhaps an hour or two, though. If you think that it'd be useful, I wouldn't mind doing it over the next few hours/days. Any people who subst the new dated template, though, will be taken care of automatically. --Sopoforic 16:55, 3 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Done with this. I visited every potential adoptee's page and manually inserted the date they first requested to be adopted. We have some from near the beginning of January still needing adoption, so I suppose we should start at the top. --Sopoforic 19:32, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

WP:ADOPT input
Hello, Killing sparrows. The Adopt-a-User program is looking for new ideas and input on the program. If you are still interested please stop by the talk page and read some of the ideas being floated and give a comment. If you want to update or change your information on the adopter's list page, now would be a great time! Thanks!  V 6 0  干什么？ · VDemolitions 03:44, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks
Hey, thanks for your help on the questions. Helped me a lot! Cheers!! Zachary crimsonwol f 13:14, 14 November 2006 (UTC) 08:35, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for the cookies!

I have looked at the "List of..." article. My first thought was, this is one very strange topic. Within the context of Judeo-Christian faith, however, it may have some merit. By-passing death is extraordinary. It does carry with it the implication that the individual involved had a special relationship with God. I would think that the list should be reasonably manageable. I can't see it being very useful, though, if it is just a list of special people. And, if it is just a collection of biographies, it defeats the purpose of unique encyclopedia article. (Just go to the individual articles.) Might it be useful to organize the article by translation, assumption, etc.? There is quite a bit of discussion on this already and it might calm some of the concern.

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Thank you for your offer for adoption
I would like to thank you for your offer of adoption. As you have noticed, I have been able to get around wikipedia. I had to learn on my own, because first I did not know about the adoption process and then for a month no one gave me an offer for adoption. So I had to learn the hard way. But I am still interested in learning more about the wikipedia processes like AfD debates, Anti-Vandalism policies, editing tools etc. I am not sure whether the adoption process is only for starters or even for advanced learning. If you can adopt me and help me in understanding these processes and policies, then I am very much interested in your offer for adoption. Dhshah 15:25, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

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 * Understandable. I meant no disrespect. I just misread when I first put up the AFD, and changed it. GreenJoe 17:22, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Adoption instructions
Thank you! I had forgotten that page existed. That adoptees' area was probably what was causing the trouble. A few other users had done that, but I just dated their templates and never got around to asking why they did it. Hopefully, this will solve the issue. --Sopoforic 07:41, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

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Grade 8 Student
If that is the work of a grade-8 student in the long question you answered on the Humanities Ref Desk about Ivy League colleges, then I am England's poet laureate. You did a good job of just by-passing any controversy, though Bielle 01:22, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

This is almost embarassing. My comment was because I have had to read 3rd-year university papers where the sentence structure was less complicated than this supposed 13-year-old has used. Your daughter and her friends must be brilliant. Bielle 01:40, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

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Spelling
From your user page: "...but I try to great a few each day..."

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Eco-cemetery
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Slew
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Have a great trip to Saintt Paul Island!!!

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I must admit: I'm envying you. Next sunday I'll be leaving for Budapest which I'm looking forward to. MrMyer who has been there before will be my guide. The last weeks I was busy in de:WP starting a few articles like Esther Carlebach, Roquettesches privates Lehrerinnenseminar, Anna Dräger-Mühlenpfordt and Cornelia Schorer - some female subjetcts which were a need I felt. :-) --MrsMyer 22:08, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Sparrows
Hi Mr. Sparrows. Please can you adopt me, as i am a new user who thinks you sound great, and want to be adopted. Please get back to me when you have an answer. Christine118500 10:58, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

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Unusual Adoption Request
Hi! Im an English teacher in Toluca Mexico (west of Mexico City). My Advanced B classes will be contributing to Wikipedia as the focus of their English course for Fall 2007. I am looking for people who would like to mentor my students (who will be working in groups) as they do the following assignments: Edit and article (adding a citation), writing a stub with a citation, translating an English language article for Spanish Wikipedia and for the final project, writing a full article for English Wiki (they can expand on the stub mentioned previously). What I would like to do is put a list of "mentors/adopters" on my talk page as a kind of short cut for my students, who have limited time to get things done. The semester begings Aug 6, but the real Wikipedia work wont begin until the beginning of Sept. If you would like to add your name to my list, please go to my talk page and add it there, perhaps with a short introduction, if you like.

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Hello Killing Sparrows! I was just wondering if you get notified of edits I make to the talk page you set up for us. I am one of your adopted editors. I have a question or two which I asked on the talk page but you have not replied for a while. Just wondering if you're getting notified of the changes I make to that page? Zaindy87 18:09, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

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May I suggest that this should be moved to User:Killing_sparrows/Earth_jurisprudence? As it stands, there is no easy place to discuss what you are trying to do, aside from Talk:Earth jurisprudence. If you moved it to a subpage of your user page it would have it's own talk page. I'll watch your talk page for a few days, but I generally prefer responses on my talk page. Thanks.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 21:31, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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Having you been checking Elijah? I have been away for a while-for health reasons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThomasHartman (talk • contribs) 23:52, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

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