User talk:Kimowilliams

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Hi there Kimo, Someone noticed that you recently edited the article Kimo Williams, noticed that this was a new account, and wondered about the correctness of the edits. First allow me to thank you for your help, and a very quick look indicates that your efforts are acceptable in many aspects. We also appreciate you taking the time to add the information. Wikipedia can be a very daunting and confusing place to get around for folks just starting out; and as such, I've added a few links above to some reading material that may help in that respect.

See there are just a whole ton of "rules" here (we call them policies and guidelines) which can just be a huge undertaking just to read through. The question that was brought up was: "does he know the rules about editing his own article?". In that respect please allow me to drop a couple specific links that might help.


 * WP:COI
 * WP:AUTOBIO
 * WP:SELFPROMOTE

While it is not strictly forbidden to help edit your own article, it is very closely watched to make sure that the article remains neutral in its tone, and that people aren't coming here simply to write promotional pieces for their own benefit. I hope you'll take all of this in the good spirit that it is intended, and once again - welcome to Wikipedia.

Cheers and best,

— Ched : ?  04:48, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

December 2011
Your addition to Kimo Williams has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other websites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. The content you added was cut and paste from http://www.wix.com/omikmusic/kimosite#!about and has been removed to avoid legal concerns. Minima  ©  ( talk ) 06:46, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Ched Here is my comment:

I wrote the bio for my website(that you referred to). Should I copy it from the original word document in order to add it to Wiki? Kimowilliams (talk) 16:39, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

I hope I can help. You need to get in touch with our office in order to do this. For one thing, we need to make sure you are who you say you are (there are people who impersonate notables, unfortunately); for another, we have to be certain that you are the legal holder of the copyright to those words and are willing to release your words under a compatible copyright license.

The email to contact our office is:

permissions-en@undefinedwikimedia.org

They will need specific information from you. The information required is listed at this page.

Good luck! --NellieBly (talk) 16:56, 14 December 2011 (UTC)


 * let me do a little research here .. will get back to you shortly. — Ched : ?  16:58, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Hey guys I just wanted to correct some information to my bio and fix some problems there. Did not want to go into a long drawn out issue here. I understand the complex approach to editing that WIKI has (I know how important it is also)I will leave it as it was before I changed it as I do not have the time to follow the procedural conduits being suggested. Thanks for your time..... Kimowilliams (talk) 17:35, 14 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey Kimo, .. I've requested some feedback from others on this, and hope to get back to you shortly. We'll try to incorporate as much as we can.  I see that the "email this user" link appears to be working, so I'll send along any info to that email as I get it.  Thank you for your interest and help here.  Cheers — Ched :  ?  17:54, 14 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi, Kimo. Just to explain the issue here, Wikipedia gets quite a bit of content added that we can't legally use because of copyright issues. Your website says "© 2010 One Omik Music Publishing  All Rights Reserved." If you're the copyright holder, you certainly can give us permission to use it, but the problem with our accepting that permission here is that this is a legal matter and we don't have any way to prove that you are who you say you are. Being in the music business, I'm sure you've been through a contract or two. :) Lawyers like things all laid out.


 * There's two ways to verify it. One of them is pretty easy. The easy way is to change (or get your manager to change) the copyright statement at the bottom of this page to read:
 * What that license means is that while One Omik Music Publishing still holds the copyright, the biography can be reprinted elsewhere (even commercially), and we can use it on Wikipedia to help us in building our article about you.
 * What that license means is that while One Omik Music Publishing still holds the copyright, the biography can be reprinted elsewhere (even commercially), and we can use it on Wikipedia to help us in building our article about you.


 * If you don't want to put that statement on the website but would still like to license the text so we can use it, NellieBly gives you exactly the right address to write to: permissions-en@undefinedwikimedia.org. The only really hard part about that is that the email address you use to contact us has to be associated with One Omik Music Publishing or the website. If you have an email address that clearly identifies you as associated with those, great. If not, we can work around it, but it's a little bit harder. If you decided you wanted to go that way, all you would need to do is copy the form letter at Declaration of consent for all enquiries and mail it to that address. If you go that way, please let me know, and I'll see if I can speed up the process for you.


 * Sorry for the complications here! We try to make it as easy as possible, but with legal stuff it's never going to be completely simple. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:18, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

ALRIGHT!!!!! Well I found out what the issue here is. The Wiki site that is referred to this page was in fact deleted several years ago (so I thought). Thanks to you guys I now know that it was not deleted and I am now in the process of insuring it is no longer active. That being said, once it is no longer on line do I still need to provide a license (Creative Commons Licenses or standard copyright notice) when I provide the biography information? I am so glad you guys are so stringent in following intellectual property procedures. This is good for this industry (music). Kimowilliams (talk) 17:17, 15 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi, Kimo. That's a good first step, but since copyright doesn't disappear when something is "out of print", we still need you just to verify that you are you. :) I see you have a website, here, that lists your email address. I'm going to make you from a Wikimedia Foundation email just to ask you to confirm your identity. Once you do that, copyright problems will be eliminated.


 * At that point, it would be best if you worked with us on updating your article. It would be best if you let us review the content and merge it into the article, if you don't mind. We can check it against our local publishing policies and make sure that it meets our requirements. People won't be concerned that you are editing with a "conflict of interest" if we do it that way.


 * Please look for an email from me at that published address very soon. You may get it before you even read this. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:30, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

ID verified
Hi Kimo, hope this finds you well. I noticed that everything went through on the ID and all. Congrats!! .. I'd be happy to do any editing that you'd like to see, although perhaps after the holidays would be better. I'll have a look at things as soon as I can, and do the best I can to make any improvements to the article. Cheers and best .. and I hope you have a wonderful holiday season. :) — Ched : ?  14:58, 21 December 2011 (UTC)