User talk:King of Hearts/Archive/2013/10

Requesting help
Hi,

Wish you seasons greeting.If you remember me I am a beurocrat from mr-wikipedia and previously we had a discussion on your talk page regarding edit filters.

At mr-wikipedia we do have problem of users not giving references enough number of times other reference related issues,and we do have few filters to deal with various related issues.<!-- Now again I seek your help and suggessions in regard to two filters.


 * 1) This first filter Identifies/obsrves changes made to a text which already has a reference.Currently if the change is made to the right side of " " then also it gives positive.I want filter to check only changes only to the left side of word " ",  and not on the right side of the word " ".Requesting your help to suggest any suitable changes that will avoid changes to right side of syntax " "


 * 2) The second filter request is probably bit more difficult.During intense edit war on certain specific pages we do restrict users to provide reference manadatorily to every text line of around edit_delta > 700 bytes to edit_delta < 1200 bytes.But length of reference itself can go as high as say 4000 bytes.So can you suggest any idea/parameter to give exception to edit_delta in between " " .Or simply how do I ensure through a filter, a text line of edit_delta > 700 bytes to edit_delta < 1200 bytes has a refence.

Although it is not high privacy issue still,on safer side,since it is edit war related discussion I will prefer to hide the details from simple search with simple syntax or simple delete once our discussion is over.

Thanks and Regards

Mahitgar (talk) 13:34, 1 October 2013 (UTC)


 * For 1), what kind of change to the left side of are you trying to detect? And I'm afraid I don't understand you for 2). -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 21:19, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

For 1) Our mr-wiki filter no 60 intends to monitor all changes by unexperienced users (i.e. users upto 100 edits) in sentences already having references, and is tagged for further verification, providing guidance to unexperinced user and so on.So filter no 60 is correctly picking up changes on left side of the . One simmiller filter monitors changes in referenced text in featured articles.


 * A) Currently our filter 60 is picking up changes in even large portion of text . I want it getting limited up to a certain length to the left of that will aproximately pickup changes made up to a paragraph before tag
 * B) Current status of the filter gives falls positive like this change which is to the right side of .Here in this case Sentense to the right side has no reference.


 * In brief: Say there is paragraph text "Abcd efgh.Ijklmnop qrstuv. Wxyz bfjr."
 * In above example para text I wish to monitor changes only from "Ijklmnop qrstuv. " But do not to monitor changes to "Abcd efgh." and also do not need  changes to monitor changes to "Wxyz bfjr."

For 2) Presently Marathi language wikipedia majority of users -(including the experienced ones)- in many (read most) of the edits, do not cite reference, or cite very few refs for very large body of texts and we are using filters to improve awareness to cite apropriate and enough references.Since currently we are not forcing for the same mandatorily in most of the articles. But in articles where, due to content dispute, edit war is taking place and all the parties avoiding citing references, basic minimal thing as a crat I want enforce is to make citing references in each and every newly added text line as mandatory for particular articles, with the help of edit filters.


 * In brief: So the filter condition I am looiking for is: " Maximum text of (example) text line :vutsr qponm hgfe" , should not be more than edit_delta>1200 bytes

Thanks for your nice help.

Regards

Mahitgar (talk) 07:14, 2 October 2013 (UTC) -->


 * This should work:


 * King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 06:14, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Testing your suggested solution with actual filters. Thanks and its very nice of you.

Warm regards

Mahitgar (talk) 08:56, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Lucky Diaz and the Family Jam Band
Hello!

It appears our page Lucky Diaz and the Family Jam Band has been deleted and cites your user as the cause. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_Diaz_and_the_Family_Jam_Band

We were just nominated for a Latin Grammy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_Grammy_Awards_of_2013 and are on several other sites via Wikipedia. The fact that our site can not be linked is very stressful and needs to be fixed.

If you can please fix this or tell us how to do so- we would appreciate it very much.

All the best, Alisha Gaddis Lucky Diaz and the Family Jam Band — Preceding unsigned comment added by AGaddis13 (talk • contribs) 22:41, 1 October 2013 (UTC)


 * You are welcome to file an appeal for its restoration at WP:DRV. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 06:18, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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So what if I nominated it again? It's not disruptive especially since the reasoning is legit! It only seem disruptive because of multiple nominations. You can go back, where User:B was first to mention (good on him) that it failed NFCC #8 (yes it was only there that this NFCC #8 argument was first brought up), yet it was "keep"? It should have been deleted then. You can even see for yourself that it really does not meet the criteria! Whether it be this particular one or any other fan made (yes, whether you like it or not and whether you think it's relevant or not, these are fan made), there is no point/use in having it in the Philippines national football team page! All these arguments by User:Howard the Duck that this logo is legit are barely anything, if anything at all. All this, "it's been adopted by....." stuff or in that same FFD in the link above, "In the Philippines, national teams are run as if they're club teams" or whatever other random argument he brings up. He makes it seem that what he's actually saying has weight or connection to make this logo relevant/legit when in fact it has barely anything to do with it, if anything at all. Again, there are a ton of these randomly made azkal logos and all have been adopted by many random people and sites. What makes this particular logo more relevant/legit than the others when it's all the same nonsense? Where's the sources for that? Simple.... NONE! Therefore it fails the criteria for keeping. Banana Fingers (talk) 00:36, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
 * It is disruptive precisely because of 1) the multiple nominations; 2) the fact that you have failed to bring any new arguments to any new nomination. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 01:04, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

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