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Administrators' newsletter – July 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2019). Administrator changes
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 * 1 's access was removed, then restored, then removed again.
 * 2 's access was removed, then restored, then removed again.

Bureaucrat changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg 28bytes • WJBscribe • Wizardman

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg MSGJ • TheDJ

CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Beeblebrox • BU Rob13 • DoRD

Oversight changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Beeblebrox • BU Rob13 • DoRD • GB fan

Guideline and policy news
 * A request for comment seeking to alleviate pressures on the request an account (ACC) process proposes either raising the account creation limit for extended confirmed editors or granting the account creator permission on request to new ACC tool users.
 * In a related matter, the account throttle has been restored to six creations per day as the mitigation activity completed.
 * The scope of CSD criterion G8 has been tightened such that the only redirects that it now applies to are those which target non-existent pages.
 * The scope of CSD criterion G14 has been expanded slightly to include orphan "Foo (disambiguation)" redirects that target pages that are not disambiguation pages or pages that perform a disambiguation-like function (such as set index articles or lists).
 * A request for comment seeks to determine whether Office actions should be a policy page or an information page.

Technical news
 * The Wikimedia Foundation's Community health initiative plans to design and build a new user reporting system to make it easier for people experiencing harassment and other forms of abuse to provide accurate information to the appropriate channel for action to be taken. Community feedback is invited.

Miscellaneous
 * In February 2019, the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) changed its office actions policy to include temporary and project-specific bans. The WMF exercised this new ability for the first time on the English Wikipedia on 10 June 2019 to temporarily ban and desysop . This action has resulted in significant community discussion, a request for arbitration (permalink), and, either directly or indirectly, the resignations of numerous administrators and functionaries. The WMF Board of Trustees is aware of the situation, and discussions continue on a statement and a way forward. The Arbitration Committee has sent an open letter to the WMF Board.

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Tech News: 2019-27
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The development of Wikidata Bridge has started. The goal is to allow Wikidata edits from Wikipedia.

Problems
 * Sometimes pages load slowly for users routed to the Amsterdam data center. Investigation is in progress.
 * Wikidata query service was overloaded between 11:50 UTC until 13:15 UTC on June 24. It has been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * You will be able to read but not to edit all wikis for a short amount of time, on 3 July at 06:00 (UTC). This is to move a database.
 * There is no deployment of a new version of MediaWiki on the wikis this week (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 3 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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The Great Wall of China: Documentary
1, 2, 3, 4. Geng Zhou, a soldier of Qi Jiguang, is a fictional character, but he is the second main protagonist, then he could have an own page. It could also be created the documentary page: Behind the Great Wall. Please, can you help me, because I'm too busy? Thank you very much. --79.16.239.200 13:31, 4 July 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.16.239.200 (talk)

Sunday July 14: Annual NYC Wiki-Picnic @ Roosevelt Island
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Tech News: 2019-28
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * For event organizers, if you request a temporary lift of the IP cap for mass account creation, this will now also raise the edit rate limit for those new accounts at the event, which will prevent another bottleneck.
 * Administrators at all Wiktionary, Wikivoyage, and Wikisource wikis are now able to use the new partial blocks feature.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 July. It will be on all wikis from 11 July (calendar).
 * The design of MediaWiki's software windows will change for desktop users. Layout will be simpler, buttons will be bolder and clearer, and close buttons will be just icons. This is like the mobile design. This will affect ContentTranslation, VisualEditor, TemplateWizard, and other tools.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 10 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Wikidata will be in read-only mode on 30 July from 05:00 to 05:30 UTC because of a server switch.
 * Octicons-tools.svg There will be a change in the name format of new Wikidata RDF dumps starting on 15 July.

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Discussion on WP:ROUTINE
Greetings, I started a RFC at Wikipedia talk:Notability (people) that concerns an issue you mentioned at Articles for deletion/Wink Hartman. I do not know how to mass send notification to others involved, or if it is necessary, but I did mention the AFD and you might have interest. I am also notifying, , and , not because of any !votes but as admins likely to close, and opinions concerning inclusion or exclusion, at the location. If I have made any errors please feel free to correct them or whatever action might be necessary for the discussion. Otr500 (talk) 19:30, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for 2019 Cricket World Cup Final
101.50.68.87 (talk) 10:22, 15 July 2019 (UTC) tthhaannkks

Tech News: 2019-29
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The mobile web will get more advanced editing tools. Seven more Wikipedias can use them now. This works for Arabic, Indonesian, Italian, Persian, Japanese, Spanish and Thai Wikipedia. You can try the tools on the mobile web and give feedback.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-tools.svg The abuse filter system user will soon do maintenance edits on broken abuse filters. This user is called   and has administrator rights. This is meant to fix technical problems. It will not do any other changes. You can read more.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 July. It will be on all wikis from 18 July (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 17 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * The Wikipedia app for Android will invite users to add image captions to images on Commons. It will only invite users who have added a number of edits in the app without being reverted. This is to avoid spam and bad edits. You can read more and leave feedback.

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Tech News: 2019-30
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Communities interested by easing newcomers' first steps can now benefit from the Growth team experiments on their wikis. Check the conditions and the request process.
 * The Coolest Tool Award 2019 is looking for nominations. You can recommend tools by July 29. The awarded tools will be presented at Wikimania.

Problems
 * The release of the last version of MediaWiki (1.34.0-wmf.14) has been blocked for groups 1 and 2.

Changes later this week
 * Phabricator database will be moved to a different server. Writes will be blocked on Thursday 25 July, between 05:30 and 06:00 AM UTC. Reads will remain unaffected.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 July. It will be on all wikis from 25 July (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 24 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Some items in the visual editor will change later this week. This will make it easier to edit links, citations, and templates on both desktop and mobile.
 * With advanced search turned on you will be able to choose the sorting order of the search results when you do a search.
 * Users who edit from IP addresses whitelisted on a request for temporary lift of the IP cap for mass account creation will bypass CAPTCHAs. This will happen in August. If you think this should not happen for some reason, please let us know.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The variable  will be removed from AbuseFilter. A list of filters needing a fix is provided.

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Regarding Page Bijoy Kumar Sahoo
The page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Bijoy_Kumar_Sahoo_(2nd_nomination) has been deleted. Here are few links for the person. He has been appointed as Advisor to Odisha Adarsha Vidyalaya. Can there be a wiki page on Dr Sahoo. Some credible citations are

https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/dream-and-skills-key-to-success/cid/1487648 https://ommcomnews.com/odisha-news/dr-bijaya-sahoo-takes-charge-as-odisha-adarsha-vidyalaya-sangathan-s-advisor- http://www.odishabytes.com/bijaya-kumar-sahoo-is-new-odisha-adarsha-vidyalaya-sangathan-adviser/ http://www.odishabytes.com/educationist-bijoy-sahoo-appointed-advisor-of-oavs/ https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bhubaneswar/TOI-coffee-table-book-in-honour-of-9-top-achievers/articleshow/52965186.cms http://www.irdindia.in/journal_ijrdmr/pdf/vol5_iss1/11.pdf https://dpemou.nic.in/MOUFiles/biodata1213/Bijoy%20k.Sahoo.pdf https://ficciarise.org/our_team/ca-dr-bijoy-k-sahoo/ http://interviewtimes.org/2018/02/16/revolution-education-bijay-kumar-sahoo/ http://interviewtimes.org/2018/02/16/revolution-education-bijay-kumar-sahoo/ https://nationfirstnews.in/news/sai-international-chairman-bijoy-sahoo-appointed-advisor-of-oavs-with-mos-rank/ https://www.rediff.com/money/2007/nov/29orissa.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sadhakm (talk • contribs) 10:37, 23 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Out of those I don't see any that would constitute significant coverage of the subject except for sources which are not considered fully independent, such as a CV or interview. What matters is quality, not quantity. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 04:10, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

unblock query
You unblocked wnt, with a rationale about "having learned their lesson" in your judgement. Did you discuss this with anyone else before doing that, such as the blocking or reviewing admins? cygnis insignis 04:21, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I have been following the conversation. Wnt pinged El C on 18 July 2019 but got no response, so when they posted again on 23 July 2019 I unblocked him. It is not fair for a user to remain unblocked if the blocking admin simply does not respond for days. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 02:10, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * As they were not the only party involved, and the given seriousness of the concern, would you consider asking for a review of your action? cygnis insignis 02:14, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * You can bring it to ANI if you want, but I warn you that the most likely outcome will be that you'll just be asked to drop the WP:STICK because at this point reblocking him wouldn't really serve a purpose. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 04:58, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I didn't respond because I had nothing further to add. I had already said at that point that although I continue to have reservations, I won't stand in the way of consensus to unblock. I'm not sure whether such consensus exists, and I don't support this unblock — but I am not objecting, either. El_C 05:05, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * My belief is that if everyone is relatively apathetic about a block, then the best solution is to just give them some WP:ROPE. Maybe they change their ways, or maybe they end up hanging themselves. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 05:16, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Worth noting you are a habitué of the page that gave rise to this action, so yes, your warning is duly noted. You didn't venture to discuss the matter with those concerned, and claim a weak consensus on the basis that you see it as being taught a lesson. cygnis insignis 06:14, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

WP:NCTV dispute tag
I just noticed your edit to WP:NCTV. What exactly is that based on? I can't recall any dispute discussion on this matter on the page. The last proposed change was by me if I'm not mistaken. --Gonnym (talk) 21:13, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
 * It's based on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (television)/Archive 15. As written, NCTV appears to mandate Winterfell (Game of Thrones) rather than Winterfell (Game of Thrones episode) since the location of Winterfell doesn't have its own article (despite being a primary redirect), but a consensus of people have agreed that it is nonsensical in this case, and so the guideline should be changed to reflect reality. If you have a suggested wording I'm all ears, and we can restart that conversation. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 02:07, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I still don't understand why it couldn't have gone from Where the title is the same as an episode, character, or other element from the show which has its own page, disambiguate further using Title (Show episode/character/element). to Where the title is the same as an episode, character, or other element from the show, disambiguate further using Title (Show episode/character/element). - that is basically all that's needed. As a side note, I'd really wish you hadn't added that dispute tag or at least added it to the specific sub-section you meant, as in a different RM discussion people are using that dispute tag to ignore the guideline for the base section completely. --Gonnym (talk) 05:37, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, we don't want to put it in such absolute terms. Your suggested change, taken literally, would mean that Death (South Park) would have to be at Death (South Park episode) to accommodate the one-off character who appears only in that episode. We would either need to specify a list of exceptions (keeping in mind that "no exceptions" is too narrow and "has its own page" is too broad), or hedge and say that disambiguating using element type is merely a possible choice to be applied with discretion. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 13:35, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * And so? What harm will come from that death episode moving? This follows exactly WP:INCDAB. There is no primary topic for a qualifier, so for any given series, the same name can, and would, be equally ambiguous. In your given example - the episode is not coincidentally named after the character that appears in that episode. --Gonnym (talk) 14:58, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * That's your opinion though. Netoholic occupies the opposite ground, for example. I'm somewhere in the middle, but probably closer to your position than his. In the end we need to propose some wording and get a consensus of people to agree on the compromise. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 17:07, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * While a good editor, he is known for not allowing any change to go into the guideline. On the other hand, "my" opinion is backed up by RMs and NCTV discussion on this subject that that have shown that editors (a) don't think incomplete disambiguation can be a primary of anything and (b) that for the same TV series, same name topics should be disambiguated - taking these two together produces the only logical conclusion - anything else is just beating around the bush. Unrelated to whether we'll reach a conclusion here, could you please edit NCTV and place your tag in the correct sub-section, as your issue is with the 2nd part (Where the title is the same as an episode... and not the whole section. As I've stated above, other editors are taking your dispute tag as  open-season on the whole character guideline. --Gonnym (talk) 18:36, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I moved the tag, and have continued the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (television). -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 04:36, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry
ダルメーター, who is the suspected sockmaster at Sockpuppet investigations/ダルメーター, became active again. At Category talk:Wikipedia sockpuppets of ドグリ (PermaLink), another user from the Japanese Wikipedia has recently expressed concern about his sockpuppetry, claiming that ダルメーター is the same person as ドグリ, who has been indefinitely blocked for sockpuppetry in the English Wikipedia (Sockpuppet investigations/ドグリ). In the Japanese Wikipedia, ダルメーター admits that he is the same person as Q3opsp (Diff), and Q3opsp admits that he is the same person as ドグリ (Diff). As seen at ja:Wikipedia:進行中の荒らし行為/長期/ダルメーター (LTA case page on ダルメーター), he has created dozens of sockpuppets since 2016, and ドグリ has been blocked as one of his sockpuppets in the Japanese Wikipedia. I think the situation has changed since you closed the SPI in 2017 and WP:ILLEGIT applies here. Can I ask you to block the user? Regards, 153.214.224.98 (talk) 09:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not really active at SPI anymore; you can file a new request and someone will look at it. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 21:47, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-31
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * Wikidata will be in read-only mode on 30 July from 05:00 to 05:30 UTC because of a server switch.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 31 July. It will be on all wikis from 1 August (calendar).

Meetings
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