User talk:Kingboyk/Archive 27

 to your talk page, along with your question, and press save. Somebody will then along be shortly to help you. It would be quite alright, for example, to explain that you don't understand how to leave a message for another user and to ask for instructions. (Except: You do now know, as you did it right).
 * On managing conflicts of interest:
 * Actually, it was me who left you that message as well.
 * As you're having difficulties, what I've done is add the disclosure to your user page on your behalf. Please look at your user page HERE and verify. Then just confirm to me by replying to me here that the declaration is correct. Confirmation would be best but if I don't hear from you I'll assume your previous message to me was confirmation.
 * I don't think you need to worry too much further about the conflict of interest guidelines for now. Other users will be able to see your declaration and will advise you if there are any problems.
 * My question about the nature of your account
 * There's one other thing. Is your account for one individual (Gwen? Peter?) or do you share it?
 * Please reply here (along with any further questions if you have any - in the same way you did before. Thanks! --kingboyk (talk) 21:43, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
 * PS I was quite interested to hear about a new institution in Hereford as I am just down the road. Good luck with the article and more importantly good luck with the new institution! --kingboyk (talk) 21:54, 1 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your VERY helpful reply, and for revealing that you live near Hereford. I am a volunteer helping to set up this new engineering institution, so my conflict of interest is just that - interest. I draw no money from the project! I am keen to help them because I think the initiative is very worthwhile and this is one thing I can do to help.


 * I will absorb your comments more fully later in the day, but meanwhile a quick question/comment. You (or someone) suggested that local papers were not a good reference, but that The Times or The Telegraph would be more acceptable. There have been articles in both Times & Telegraph about NMiTE but the problem is that they contain lots of errors!  If I cite them I propound these misconceptions. [I should add that I am an academic of 55 years standing - now in my 70s. I have published literally hundreds of highly-referenced articles and half a dozen books, so I am quite familiar with the idea of referencing and citation - and therefore cautious about weak references.]


 * Finally for the moment, my wife Gwen does not have her own account so anything relating to either of us (or the Waverton Good Read Award, which she runs) is done by me. I did not set up the WGRA entry, but I do edit it occasionally when, for example, there is a new winner.


 * Enough for now - thank you again. I will work on the draft again later. Peter
 * (just remembered the tildes, but don't understand why they are needed since the system seems to know who I am anyway Goodhew (talk) 08:49, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the information regarding your account. That's all perfectly in order. If your wife decides to edit Wikipedia too, please set up a new account for her as accounts are not to be shared.
 * I can't really help with regards to inaccuracies in the public record. At Wikipedia, we consider what the "reliable" sources to say to be the truth. Ultimately, you have to record what the sources say and if you can't do that, perhaps it is better to leave the draft alone and let somebody who is not connected write it. As a veteran academic you know way more about these things than me - I am just a lowly software developer - so I shall have to leave you to wrestle with that yourself . Don't forget that the Articles for Creation help desk is also available to you. --kingboyk (talk) 20:51, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help and encouragement. I will continue the struggle. [But I still push back against the idea that The Times is a better factual record than The Hereford Times. That's just snobbery, I suspect. I'm now searching for a better record than either of them!] Goodhew (talk) 07:51, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 * You're very welcome. I didn't mean to suggest you can't or shouldn't reference a reputable local newspaper ("Local sources are considered to be reliable sources if they meet Wikipedia's guidelines for being reliable sources. They are valid in establishing notability if they provide in-depth, non-routine, non-trivial coverage of the subject.").
 * My remark was about relying solely on local newspapers (and a secondary source) for references. This is a topic that is likely to be in time, if not already, of national and indeed international significance and it seemed odd to me that no national sources of international repute were cited (this includes organs such as The Times and The Daily Telegraph, whether or not you or I personally appreciate these newspapers); furthermore, substantial coverage in national and/or international publications and other media is a far stronger indicator of notability than local coverage only. Finally, one has be careful not to "cherrypick" only the sources which align with one's own view.
 * The main takeaway should be that 2 local newspaper articles and the college's own website don't demonstrate notability. Adding further references will remove one of the main objections a reviewer had about your draft.
 * For the article to be accepted, don't forget to work on the tone - more matter of fact, less promotional.
 * Again, good luck with your endeavours. --kingboyk (talk) 14:15, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Resubmitting a draft
If I edit my (rejected) draft to improve it, and press "Publish" does this "submit" it? If not how does one "submit"? Originally I clearly failed to submit and a kind editor did it for me later (which means I don't know what s/he did). Currently all I want to do is make some improving edits and not yet submit it again, but I don't understand the difference between "publish" and "submit". Goodhew (talk) 10:51, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Underneath the rejection message there is a "Resubmit" button. Press that to resubmit. You may also have to press Save - I'm not 100% sure. I think it should be clear whether that second step is necessary or not - if the editor opens up, you'll need to save; if it doesn't and the text on the page changes then it's a single click operation. (I became an admin before the Articles for Creation process was introduced, so I've never actually used it!). --kingboyk (talk) 20:55, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Goodhew COI
Thanks for doing these. I confirm that they are OK Goodhew (talk) 11:49, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks Peter. Consider that wrapped up and taken care of now. --kingboyk (talk) 20:44, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Please discuss my block
Hello mr. administrator, You blocked for 24 hours for "edit warring". But Kindly observe that I did not "edit war". Please / kindly provide me of the list of all edit where I "edit warred" which you blocked me for. Now, The only "revert" I made was this one with a proper "edit summary" : https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ramesh_Pokhriyal&diff=prev&oldid=913202928 and after a discussion with the other editor on his talk page. Was this single edit sufficient to block me ? BTW: Other editors have up[held that edit of mine and removed the content from that article. Thanks. Have nice day. Benarasibabu (talk) 15:48, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello. Your contributions can be seen here, and here is our policy on edit warring. Your block was very short and is over now. In future please discuss changes you wish to make on the relevant talk pages if you meet resistance or if you anticipate that they will be controversial. --kingboyk (talk) 21:03, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Draft of page for NMiTE
Steve - thanks for all your help. Could I ask a further favour? I have now modified the draft considerably. I have tried to adopt a purely factual tone and have added several more references. Would you take a quick look and give your opinion whether it is now likely to be acceptable? (I know that you cannot promise, but I would value your view.) Goodhew (talk) 07:50, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I've been busy, Peter - apologies. I've had a quick read of the new draft (with the emphasis on quick) and it looks a lot better in terms of tone and the number and quality of references. I'm not qualified to say whether it would be accepted in that state, but it's definitely a step in the right direction. Well done!
 * A couple of issues I spotted:
 * 1) What is "student-centred" and how is that ethos any different from other educational institutions? (Either remove, or elaborate with reference to secondary reliable sources on this point)
 * 2) Your citations are not formatted per our usual style. Either ask for the reviewer or somebody at the help desk to assist you with that, or come back to me and when I'm less busy I'll format them for you. I personally would not consider this a fair reason to reject an article but I don't know how strict they are. (I'm not actually an AfC reviewer, I'm a Wikipedia admin who just happened to see your post at the help desk when I was visiting AfC on other business :))
 * Hope that helps! --kingboyk (talk) 14:48, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your advice, Steve. I will work on it. Sorry to take so much time when you are busy. Goodhew (talk) 13:15, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * That's quite alright Peter - it's been a pleasure talking to you. Do feel free to visit again if you any more help from me. --kingboyk (talk) 14:46, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

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ANI (mentioned)
Hi Kingboyk, Just a heads up I've mentioned you at Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents inregards to Astra1999, Many thanks, – Dave | Davey 2010 Talk 19:52, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Noted, thanks. --kingboyk (talk) 20:43, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

RE: List of Kid vs. Kat episodes
Thee might kindly wish to release this XD-related scroll of segmented installments from the dungeon for nearly nine years by the vassal named Bearcat. It is almost a decennary ago and it cannot stay like that any further. He is still slaying dragons though.

Sent it to the protection fief to have it free and unfortunately fellow vassal Favonian banished it back to the dungeon. Send it back there if disruption resumes.

Cheers to the fall,

47.16.146.238 (talk) 20:07, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
 * You appear to be asking me to unprotect List of Kid vs. Kat episodes after User:Favonian has already declined to (Requests_for_page_protection/Rolling_archive). I'm sorry, but I won't unilaterally undo another admin (except in an emergency - which this isn't). I suggest you discuss it further with that admin (not on my talk page) or take it to one of the admin noticeboards for wider review. --kingboyk (talk) 03:22, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Sockpuppet and block evasion?
Thought I should let you know, since User:Jesse Coffey was indefinitely blocked for sockuppetry and the account creation of User:Jesse Coffey Returns appears to be block evasion. Clovermoss (talk) 17:53, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Update: after a reply posted here from said user, I figured out how to open an SPI investigation, because I realized that it was better to address that there than a post on a talk page. You can see the archived discussion here: . Clovermoss (talk) 21:33, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I see that's all been resolved now. Thanks for your diligence. --kingboyk (talk) 13:45, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Adding in citations to Skip page
Hi Admin,

I received a message recently saying you have removed our citation from the Skip (container) page. We have actually put some work into the information we have supplied on this page - previously it have the wrong information regarding the names and capacity of the skips.

The page we have published this information on is here - https://www.batemanskips.co.uk/skip-hire-sizes/

Could you please let us know why this link was removed?

Thank you,

Bateman Skips — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.52.242.250 (talk) 10:05, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not aware that I have removed a link to the url you have quoted - I removed a link to your homepage as it is purely promotional. The link you mention is also not acceptable in my humble opinion. Please see WP:LINKSTOAVOID, WP:RS and WP:HERE. --kingboyk (talk) 13:58, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

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Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago
yes, again ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:38, 6 November 2019 (UTC)