User talk:Kingsif/Venezuelan sources

Aporrea
I'm sorry to meddle, but I only wanted to add that, as stated, while Aporrea is pro-government in the last years it seems to have had more editorial independence, being more critical of Maduro. I think something similar has happened with Russia Today. --Jamez42 (talk) 09:01, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
 * No worries! I moved it off my user page in hopes that people would give input! Thanks, I'll add more to the note. Kingsif (talk) 13:57, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

International sources (from WP VEN talk)

 * Do you want to add international sources that are working in Venezuela?--MaoGo (talk) 08:16, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Also Cinco8 is a new sister newspaper of Caracas Chronicles in Spanish.--MaoGo (talk) 08:19, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Good ideas, added VOA and 58, any more you can think of? Kingsif (talk) 15:25, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Reuters has an English and a Spanish section dedicated to Venezuela, as well as a team working there
 * Associated Press also covers Venezuela directly and the news are quickly updated (for example compare with their section on Arentina that has not been updated since 2017)
 * These two are a must. --MaoGo (talk) 16:30, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I've looked at them now, but it's just international news, nothing that any news source in the US and Europe won't have. AP, Reuters, BBC Mundo etc. are the first news sources to appear in google searches no matter where you are; the local news in Venezuela doesn't appear so much (and isn't covered by AP/Reuters/BBC as much as they cover big political moves and do some editorials), and it's hard to judge reliability for those unfamiliar with the newspapers (especially if they're not reading them all the time and don't know which perspective is more likely to be true between two equally unfamiliar newspapers), which is why I (after inspiration from discussion with others) started a list.
 * tl;dr AP/Reuters sources are only covering what's in the news of major newspapers/sites in the US/Europe, and everyone knows they're reliable anyway. Kingsif (talk) 23:31, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Where should this go
When ready, may we add this list in some part of the Wikiproject so we can easily refer to it? Also adding a blacklist to name Venezuelanalysis and TeleSur could be useful too, just indicating that these are considered deprecated sources. --MaoGo (talk) 07:45, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I think a project page would be the best place for it. And a blacklist below it, I guess, linking to where they were deprecated. Kingsif (talk) 10:18, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Goverment supportive
Can we avoid "government" and use "Maduro administration" or "Bolivarian government", etc.?--MaoGo (talk) 14:12, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Clarification added :) Kingsif (talk) 15:29, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

WP Ven page for RS's
The essay at WP:VENRS includes what has been discussed here. (ping especially!) Kingsif (talk) 03:46, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notification! We needed this. Can we do something similar in Wikipedia in Spanish? --MaoGo (talk) 07:25, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure, I guess we can just translate the page? Kingsif (talk) 14:38, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * A translation is fine, I guess, if not we could translate and put a link to a draft in the talk page of the Wikiproyecto. --MaoGo (talk) 16:28, 10 September 2019 (UTC)