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Basketball image
Hi! I just wanted to drop a note about the image Firstbasketball.jpg that you uploaded about a month ago &mdash; it's a nice addition to the basketball article, because it's clearly notable and important (rather than random) (assuming it's accurate etc. etc.) &mdash; thanks! Neonumbers 00:37, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Golf
Hi Kinston eagle, and thanks for your contributions to Edgmont Country Club. I was wondering if you would like to join WikiProject Golf? It would be a great opportunity to collaborate with other wikipedians on golf articles. Thanks again. Grover 05:16, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

No Thank you. Thanks for the offer though.Kinston eagle 10:44, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Teams vs. Former teams in MLB player infoboxes
Hi ... after a good deal of discussion over the past week or so on the WP:WPBBP talk page we reached a consensus that we would change the headers in the MLB player infoboxes from "former teams" to "teams". As such, please don't revert our work in making these changes. If you disagree with the decision we made, post your concerns on the project talk page. Thanks. --Sanfranman59 03:12, 25 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, echoing Sanfranman59's statement -- I think that we're moving from "former teams" to "teams" in general, though I don't think that there's going to be a mass move to change all "formerteams" to "teams" at once, and any help in fixing mistakes ("formerteams" that include current or vice versa) would be appreciated; but with all the great new writing that needs to be done on the encyclopedia, I don't think that reversions are helpful. -- Myke Cuthbert (talk) 04:53, 25 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Minor League and college teams do not belong under "teams" in player infoboxs, please see [] for more information, it seems like you have a history of just making edits because you feel like they should be there but they are not approved, like changing teams back to formerteams after its been decided that formerteams is going to go away. There is a reason why no player has minor league teams on their list of teams, they are not useful, players can play for alot of minor league teams before making the big leagues, whats next are you going to start adding high schools, middle schools, little league teams to their list of old teams. MetsFan153 11:40, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I think that minor league teams should only be listed for a player with little or no MLB experience -- they are not an important part of a major league player's biography 95% of the time. Experience at the top foreign leagues (esp. Japan) generally is. (And here's where I hate infoboxes in general -- I don't think anyone would object to the adding of minor league teams to the prose of the articles). -- Myke Cuthbert (talk) 15:20, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Ramirez/Lofton Trade
Wow. A single A player being traded for a veteran major leaguer? That seems to make him pretty notable.Kinston eagle 00:50, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * True. I see you working.  :) Nick22aku 00:55, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * ...And not once but twice as I'm sure you remember the Bob Wickman trade last year. Nick22aku 00:58, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Wilson Tobs
Thanks for the kind words--I really enjoyed creating some of the entries for many teams I read about in the sports section here in North Carolina. Please go ahead and add some history for the Wilson Tobs. You are probably far more qualified than me to write about that. Thanks again Jeick 23:39, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Kingston Indians
Hey, I read your post at the WikiProject NC talk page. Although I'm no expert, I would recommend getting a Peer review. Also, let me now what I can do to help, I'd love to see a North Carolina related article make featured status. -- Mr.crabby   (Talk)   16:38, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Reggie Jackson
Can you please go to Reggie jacksons talk page and vote for either A's or Yankees colors in the infobox--Yankees10 20:55, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Ongoing AfD of I Don't Dance
I submitted my comment to the Billboard 100 news, and I think that the article will definitely be kept if some of the ideas I placed there are used. Please check it outRavenmasterq 15:59, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Portal:Sports and games
Hi. I just noticed at Portal:Sports and games/Selected content nominations where you had nominated Kinston Indians. I have set it up for next month at Portal:Sports and games/Selected article/October 2007. I just used the first few paragraphs from the article - please feel free to change anything you would like. -- B 22:39, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Alphabet books
I have just started to propose this article for Did you know. However I see you have spent a lot of time wikifying it (and I see it has a way to go). Was this your intention? Are you willing to help? Do you know where the "stuff" came from. Is it original? Lots of questions ... sorry Victuallers 19:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Are you that Kinston Eagle?
I'm a Cleveland Indians fan who lives in NC and sometimes watches the Kinston Indians and visits their web forum and there is a Kinston Eagle there as well. Is that you? LightningMan 15:45, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Skip Water's homosexuality
Dude, Skip Waters really is gay.Bwjs 03:10, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Millions of people are. That doesn't mean he's notable. Kinston eagle 03:11, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

My Autograph Book
Thanks for signing.  Sasha Callahan   20:47, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Notability Sports
Please rescind your nomination for deletion of the notability sports page. We can just tag it as rejected and be done with it immediately. An MfD will muddy the clarity of the present consensus and is likely to work at cross purposes to your apparent intent. I tried this last year with terrible result. --Kevin Murray 15:58, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

North Carolina Wikipedians
I was wondering if there are plenty of more Wikipedians from North Carolina, especially Newport where I'm from. I recommend there should be a page list for it. Bwjs 16:32, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Reggie Jackson
well that is stupid, why does every other infobox have color but not his--75.82.16.153 13:55, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Reggie Jacksons color
Please dont change the colors on Reggie Jacksons infobox anymore, there was one main person who kept changing it to A's colors and that was Pascack, and he hasnt edited since August. What I think is that we keep the Yankees colors in the infobox, but if someone keeps changing it back and forth, then we go back to neutral colors--Yankees10 16:08, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Just wait until people keep changing the colors back and forth to change it back to neutral colors, you dont control the article, so please stop, and by the way I didnt appreciate the response you said about me saying: "You're ridiculous", I could report that because you are offending me--Yankees10 18:08, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Its pretty dumb that you would use your IP address 69.68.238.142 to change the colors, like I wouldnt know it was you--Yankees10 21:45, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

BTW
You signed my autograph book twice.  SashaCall   (Sign!)/(Talk!) 20:19, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Tex Taylor
I do not know if this Tex Taylor alive or not. However, there is a policy (see Category:Living people under Expansion) to put anyone not known to be dead and who would be under 90 years old in the Living people category. Afasmit (talk) 05:37, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Players on one team
I've undone some of the color changes you've done. I see nothing wrong with having colors for retired players that have only played for one team. Even players who have played all but one year on one team. Seems silly. —Wknight94 (talk) 03:37, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't like it. Let's discuss.  Was there some agreement to this approach somewhere?  I've seen discussion in various places but I assume you can recall where since you're doing the mass changes.  —Wknight94 (talk) 03:41, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I started a section at WT:MLB. Can you at least hold off on the single-team players until a discussion can take place?  There's no rush after all.  There is at least one other who agrees with me.  —Wknight94 (talk) 03:52, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * There are thousands of retired players with articles here. Surely you can skip the few where I disagree with your approach, can't you?  —Wknight94 (talk) 04:23, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Not "one or two", just one. If you'd like to even leave the ones gray, I'd consider that.  I'd be interested to know if there have been any disputes in such cases.  My guess is no.  —Wknight94 (talk) 04:32, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * By the way, you're wasting your time anyway. To remove the color from all retired player infoboxes, all you would need to do is edit Template:Infobox MLB retired.  —Wknight94 (talk) 04:35, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * You can use Editprotected on the template's talk page. Or WP:RFPP.  As for a controversy, what you're trying to do is resolving the few color disputes that have come up (Reggie Jackson, Tug McGraw  where else?) at the expense of changing thousands of articles (yes, literally thousands), possibly causing a huge uproar that would be difficult to undo.  —Wknight94 (talk) 04:53, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Kinston
First of all, my "true intention" is to make it a great article. (see WP:FAITH) Please don't accuse me of having an agenda when you don't even know me. Someone being a gospel singer (even though i'm agnostic, i am related to christians in La Grange and don't hate christians) or a conservative politician (i'm a conservative libertarian btw) is not the reason I removed them. They don't seem noteworthy, especially the activist. I'll put them back since you're having a conniption, but once again, don't accuse people.--AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 02:42, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, look at lists in other cities and towns. Many of them include notable people that at some point lived in the town. Please don't try to be "cute" and use the Kinston Indians example because that is an exception for Kinston.--AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 02:48, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Spa(u)lding
Thanks for catching my typo -- every darned time I type his name, I put a "u" in it. I thought I caught them all, but apparently not. :) --Fabrictramp (talk) 21:26, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

TC&FCNSCFIBBA
Hey! Who said you could stop by our completely non-secret cabal clubhouse?!?

But seriously, thanks for answering my question about the PR. I had a feeling it'd take a while, and you only confirmed it for me. Feel free to let us know if there's anything we can do to improve Cap Anson that we missed. Cheers, Caknuck (talk) 22:22, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Baseball parks of Toledo, Ohio
Thanks for your input on this article. I made some more changes. If you're interested, please review. Regarding the Kinston Indians, I saw a game or two there in the early 1990s. I gather that they have remodeled Grainger Stadium since then. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 18:32, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Brandon Durden
Many thanks for catching single-A all-star bit on Brandon Durden. I read through that article twice before proposing deletion, and still missed it. (Which is a sign that article could use some work. *grin*)--Fabrictramp (talk) 13:42, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Justin Masterson
I would just like to stop by and say thanks for improving the article Justin Masterson and voting keep at the AFD. After your comment, the rest of the votes were keep. It was also keeped becuase you cleaned up the article.-- Ryan ( talk ) 23:41, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Ummm...
What is going on in this article. I'm not sure I understand the rationale behind your edits. It's pretty clearly a speedy page (either A7 or attack). Any reason you're wikilinking it? -- B figura (talk) 00:30, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

2008 Rochester Red Wings
You don't think they'd take away my hard work over there do you? I'm kind of worried now! :( Philatio (talk) 05:15, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Deletion Review
I'm working on getting the deletion on the Fort Myers Miracle entries I did overturned WP:DRV. I'd like your support, please.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 09:49, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Project banners
Please stop taking the Wikipedia Baseball project banners off of legitimate articles such as Kinston Indians. These articles are definitely within the scope of the project and you have offered no explanation as to why they should not be included in it. Thank you, Metros (talk) 01:06, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Is baseball no longer played at Grainger? It once was; I'm fairly certain I saw a game there some years ago. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 01:08, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

It seems as though Kingston eagle has problems with WP:OWNERSHIP, and now that he is having a bit of a dispute with WP:BASEBALL that he is removing articles he has edited from the project. The banner helps the project keep track of progress, we have worklists and clean up lists that are generated from pages that show the banner. Please stop removing it. —Borgardetalk 06:31, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If it continues, report it to WP:ANI as disruptive behavior. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 06:34, 8 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Somewhat related to the above. Please stop changing WPTC featured list assessments to FL-class. WPTC uses FA-class for all featured content. Thank you. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  00:39, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Jim Tatum
Sorry about that. I forgot about this. I was just going through disambiguations and saw it again. Maybe there should be some sort of notation that this is the football Jim Tatum (or, even better, move Jim Tatum to Jim Tatum (football) and make the main page a dab page). I can't be the only one who would be confused by this. -Dewelar (talk) 01:25, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Joe Gordon
Can you please stop removing the HOF info, as Baseball Bugs said they're not going to revoke the election so it doesnt break the crystal ball rule--Yankees10 21:02, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The thing is if you continue to do these edits, youll be blocked, so be my guest, keep reverting.--Yankees10 02:26, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Please stop reverting the edits Joe Gordon, Rickey Henderson and Jim Rice made the class of 2009. This is not a crystal ball, this is the truth. Thanks --Phbasketball6 (talk) 21:04, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

They do consider him a Hall of Famer, the announcement does. Every year when Professional football players are announce to be induction that means that they ARE Hall of Famers. Thanks --Phbasketball6 (talk) 21:06, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

This is one site, and I use to visit this site myself back in '03 until I relized that the people that update this site are lazy and fall behide. By the way this is only one source. If I am wrong please help me to understand that, can you show me more sources. Thanks --Phbasketball6 (talk) 21:18, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes it is their poor website and that poor website on the front page clearly states that they are voted in which means they are members. The "induction" ceremony is nothing... just them talking about their careers thanking people and getting a plaque. --Phbasketball6 (talk) 21:34, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't see anything on the new link to support your agruement but I do see on the right side: 2009: Jay Bell, David Cone, Ron Gant, Mark Grace, Rickey Henderson, Jesse Orosco, Dan Plesac, Greg Vaughn, Mo Vaughn, Matt Williams.

This supports what I said when I made the claim that this site is poorly updated. Thanks --Phbasketball6 (talk) 22:03, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

By the way they are also BIG differences between sport players making into their Hall of Fame and politicans.

Rickey Henderson
Your edits to remove the HOF information from the Rickey Henderson article are disruptive. Please refrain from these types of edits. Timneu22 (talk) 22:03, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

3rr on Template:Baseball Hall of Fame outfielders
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Note you are reverting without consensus in multiple articles, that's a very blockable offense. Revert again, and I must report you Secret account 21:47, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

List of Countries With Their First Major League Player
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 * Honestly, I liked the picture better with the 2 kids in it. I don't really care about the fact that you edited the kids out, in fact if you look at Deolis Guerra's, Wilson Ramos' and half the other pictures of Miracle players, they just about all had at least one kid cut out of the picture. However, I find this particular picture the way it looks now a little too big and unflattering. Again, just my opinion.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 13:01, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

RE:Spencer Steedley
Yes I recently put some information on his page and I was there at both of those highlights of his career and I am his cousin and that stuff is right and I can't figure out why you would delete all of that when it is all true. OK, he wanted me to put that on there so I did for him, and he is wondering why people don't believe any of the stuff I recently put on there.--Lkeever2 (talk) 01:42, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Minor league notability
I've tried to find the compromise you mentioned at Articles for deletion/Tommy Everidge and have struck out. It occurred to me that you may not have watchlisted that AfD, so you might have missed my comment asking for help in finding this. Right now WikiProject Baseball/Notability guidelines is what's linked from WP:MLB, and if there's something more recent, we really should update that. Thanks for any help!-- Fabrictramp |  talk to me  15:34, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
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Earle Brucker, Jr.
Thanks for the heads-up. I'll make his the next page I do, tonight or tomorrow, unless someone beats me to it. -Dewelar (talk) 17:45, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Looks like Neonblak beat me to Ed Blake. -Dewelar (talk) 16:38, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Dates
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Kinston Indians fan userbox
I found a Kinston Indians userbox while working on some other stuff and added it (and a few others) to my user page. I figured you might want to do the same. -- LightningMan (talk) 17:56, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
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Bullpen
First, thank you for the invite. I'm not really sure what would go into articles for the bullpen. I expanded Tommy Watkins' bullpen article a while back only to see it reverted a day later. Apparently, they wanted it to remain a stub. In any case, the main reason I contribute to wikipedia baseball articles and not the bullpen is that I was under the impression that bullpen articles were only intended to be brief overviews for anyone wanting to read about a player whose stats you were looking at on baseball-reference.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 09:26, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm getting closer and closer to the point where I say screw Wikipedia.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 11:47, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

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Articles for deletion nomination of List of Kinston baseball people
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Minor league task force
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 * I completely understand why you have issues with the project. I have been fighting the few members who consider their narrow view a "consensus". But the only way to change that is to keep fighting it. Thanks anyway. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 02:52, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

1980 Lynn Sailors season
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Salome
Hes an outfielder/catcher. Pinch hitter is not a position.--Yankees10 04:12, 28 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Fair enough--Yankees10 04:20, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Category:Major League Baseball pinch hitters
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Articles for deletion/Homar Rojas
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Michael Jordan
That's the second time you removed the Baseball project banner from Talk:Michael Jordan without providing a reason. He played professional baseball; therefore, he's within the scope of the Baseball project. Why are you removing it? – Muboshgu (talk) 19:47, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * He doses not meet that wikiproject's notability guidelines. Kinston eagle (talk) 00:41, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I do not recall that being a requirement for being part of the WikiProject, considering that he meets GNG and has a relationship with professional baseball. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:01, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

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