User talk:Kintetsubuffalo/Archive 11

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Your email
I am not able to check my email, but I believe you were asking for help moving a file at commons. to move files at commons you should follow the instructions at commons. Frietjes (talk) 14:20, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Graphics Lab
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Copyright problem on List of Scouting memorials
Material you included in the above article appears to have been copied from the copyright web page http://www.rogerknapp.com/download/JapanMonumentforBoyScout.htm. The translation of the plaque is copyright, and the plaque itself is as well, unless the author has been dead for 50 years. Unfortunately, for copyright reasons, the content had to be removed. Please leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions or if you think I made a mistake. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 17:56, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

State Seal of Japan
Your request has been completed. If satisfied please place a resolve tag on your request entry here, so we may close them. Thanks FOX 52 (talk) 20:58, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I got your completion notice-they are not the same-note the upper left kanji.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 01:23, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * try this file - FOX 52 (talk) 04:02, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Bronze Wolf Award
upper is a png and lower is a svg. But is good enough? --Egel Reaction? 19:19, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Perfect, exactly what I had in mind! Can you upload it here? Thanks!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 19:29, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

July 2017
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Manchukuo Boy Scouts
I've found this Facebook page about Manchukuo's Boy Scouts. I read they existed but I can't any pictures of them until now.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1413380498965702.1073741837.1413112325659186&type=3

If I could find more about them, I may inform you about this.

--Kyuzoaoi (talk) 01:12, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

You're welcome!

--Kyuzoaoi (talk) 01:35, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Just by luck!

--Kyuzoaoi (talk) 01:52, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

I think so. Maybe I've read your page a long time ago, but I forgot it. Then I found out about the tidbit about Manchukuo and remembered your userpage.

--Kyuzoaoi (talk) 04:04, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Re: Manchukuo Boy Scouts
Sure man. What do you need me to do?--Šolon (talk) 00:23, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok. Where is your article?--Šolon (talk) 21:33, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
 * The top half of the round one says "大满洲帝国童子军联盟" (The Boy Scouts Alliance of the Empire of Great Manchuria). Bottom half says "智、勇、仁"(Wisdom, Brave, Benevolence).--Šolon (talk) 23:47, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
 * 1st picture to the right say "吉林省童子团指导者" (Director/Commander of Boy Scouts Group/Regiment of Jilin Provice), title to the left is that of Hsinking Special Municipality(新京特别市童子团指导者).
 * For the 2nd picture its ok. I had elementary Japanese when I was a freshman and I can read Kanji anyways. It says the flag ceremony of Boy Scout's establishment will be held in May 7th, 1935（康德二年五月七日） in front of the square of the Imperial Household Agency (宫内府). Representatives all over the nation will attend the event... You can ask Japanese Wikipedian for more accurate translation, but I am sure thats pretty much it.
 * 3rd pic, Boy scouts marching in the city
 * 4th, from right to left: Oath (誓词), regulation (or rules) (规律), Slogan (标语).
 * 5th, The organizational schemes/outlines/summary of Manchukuo Boy Scouts (满洲国童子军组织纲要)
 * 6th, that's what I don't know at this moment. I can ask someone else for you. I am guessing this is the Imperial Household Agency (宫内府) they talked about in picture 2, but not for sure.
 * 7th, It says "日满童子军交X", having difficulty to read the last character (x). Watermark messed it up. It seems to mean "The exchange duty between Japanese and Manchukuo boy scouts". "康德元年五月六日" is May 6th, 1934.
 * 8th, last picture, yes. I would translate group as regiment, but not a big deal.--Šolon (talk) 16:19, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I can translate it myself, but that wouldn't be a reliable source. I will see if I can find anything in Manchu during that period, but I highly doubt it since Manchu wasn't the official language of Manchukuo.
 * Sorry, been busy today. I'll probably look it over this weekend. For the first and third link, are you trying to get those books or just use those pages as reference?--Šolon (talk) 02:40, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry has been really really busy recently. Link directs you to the website of Dalian Library. It is only good if you can get the book, or its just an short introduction. Link  is an article from a news website, so it is an ok source. The other two links are not reliable sources. Especially, it is just a PDF version of Manchukuo on Chinese Wikipedia.--Šolon (talk) 13:25, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Nothing much valuable after I actually read through the article. It only mentioned the scout once as quoted: “协和青少年团训练对象为16岁以上至25岁，把伪满洲国童子团联盟（1932年9月成立）、满铁爱路少年队（1936年6月成立）等合并而成. ” meaning: Xiehe Youth Group from 16 to 25 years old is the combination of Manchukuo Scout alliance (est. Sep 1932) and the organization of Manchu railroad youth (est. Jun 1936). --Šolon (talk) 01:48, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Graphics Lab
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re: next question
This is a huge topic but long story short, basically couple of reasons: Luckily, it is 21st century. We now have the Internet which gave us many volunteers a platform to regain our language. You will also see more native speakers in the next couple of generations since Manchu education was established at school by the Chinese government as they began to see Manchu language as a cultural heritage. However, it'll never be completely revived like it used to be, but it won't be completely dead just like Gaelic.--Šolon (talk) 23:56, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * 1. Population. This is a common minority issue.
 * 2. Desegregation of Manchus and Chinese. This happened at the end of Qing. Imagine as an minority without a community and all of your neighboorhood were Chinese.
 * 3. Fall of Qing. Manchu government somehow had a control of Manchu education until the end, but when the dynasty collapsed, the force which regulated language education was gone as well (and the succeeding ROC government had an anti-Manchu sentiment btw).

WikiProject Scouting in Taiwan
Hello and thanks for your invitation and discussion. We have established a community about the Taiwan's WikiProject Scouting and have a Facebook Fan Page and a Facebook group (both of these account name are @wikiscoutingtw). We are welcome to join us and feel free to discuss; you can use English to talk and we can understand. This is  Taiwania Justo  speaking (Reception Room) 14:18, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Electronic music
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Electronic music as a participant of WP:WikiProject Electronic music. - The   Magnificentist  13:43, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

World Scout Jamboree / World Scout Moot
@--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) Hello. Thanks for the comments. Where is the error? All edited data had its source. I've also updated table settings to make them readable to readers. As far as flags and table settings are concerned - I was drawing on how the site about the Olympic Games is modified. (Https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Olympic_Games_host_cities). Please accept my changes. They are correct and substantive. Thank you. --* User:Agi~cswiki


 * 1) per Manual_of_Style/Icons, which was cited in my edit summary, the flags should not be added-the Scouting WikiProject frequently has to remove them from articles
 * 2) it is bad form to remove existing sources in favor of your own. If your sources are good, add them, but don't remove the old sources
 * 3) it is bad form to rewrite large sections of existing articles-your text should fit in to the existing text, not overwrite it


 * That said, I believe you are a dedicated Scouter, and your hard work is appreciated, if you will work with those editors who have been working on these articles for years, and not against them--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:56, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Scouts in South Africa
Hi, you can find some details of the four associations in these documents (I don't have personal recollections to add as this was 1970s and earlier): Here is a reference to Winston that you could possibly use: Zaian (talk) 06:48, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
 * http://www.scouting.org.za/capewest/heritage/Legendary%20Leaders/WesternCapeScoutingTimeline.pdf
 * http://www.1st-stellenbosch.co.za/index.php/info/scouting-national/83-the-south-africa-scout-association
 * http://www.historicalpapers.wits.ac.za/inventories/inv_pdfo/AD1715/AD1715-19-22-1-001-jpeg.pdf
 * Race, Resistance, and the Boy Scout Movement in British Colonial Africa (2004). Timothy Parsons
 * History of Scouting in South Africa (1957). Boy Scouts of South Africa
 * http://www.scouting.org.za/scoutingabout/ScoutingAbout-2008-10.pdf

Merger protocol
I notice that you're working on a merge in Key (lock). I've managed to avoid working on merges so I start by thanking anyone willing to take on that task. However, merges typically include the copying of material from an existing article, and WP:COPYWITHIN has what I view as best practices for this activity, specifically noting that the edit summary should explain the article content was copied and have a link to the source page. At the moment, I get that readers could figure it out by seeing the template on the page but presumably that template will go away when you think the merger is completed and there will be no clear record of where the material came from and in particular, and of course the key point (notice how I cleverly invoked the word "key") is that attribution history is lost without the edit summary noting the source of the material.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  12:53, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I'm missing it-what did I do that I shouldn't? It's late, rough day and my head is not clear.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:19, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * If I understand your edit summary you are working on a merge of some material into Key (lock). Based on the template on the article I assume the material came from Maison key system (which no longer exists). For attribution reasons, the advice on copping materials within Wikipedia suggest specifically identifying in the edit summary that you have copied material and providing a link to the original article. I'm not quite sure where the original article is so that might be a little work but it helps preserve the attribution history of those who contributed to the original material.


 * Sorry, I know I'm catching you at the end of a long day.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  15:14, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello
Just dropping by to say hi to fellow Wikipedia in Japan! Regards, Alex ShihTalk 04:54, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

August 2017
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 31 hours for edit warring, as you did at Couscous. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may request an unblock by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page:. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.  Rami  R  09:19, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually I'm okay with it, every so often it's good for the soul. I would request that someone (you, if you're an honest admin) actually look at the edits on their merits. I reverted an agenda-pusher, and am curious to know why I got more time penalty than the agenda-pushing newbie user. Either way it's a nice break for me.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 09:53, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you are enjoying your break. This edit is the reason you got slightly longer. Simply put, you should have known better than calling someone "noob". Your decorum afterwards wasn't any better either.  Rami  R  10:03, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Stylequick is at it again, writing horribly-capitalized, misspelled, Algerian-POV-pushing-at-the-expense-of-their-neighbors, previous-cite-removing blunders. I've done one revert or cleanup of each, then I'm not touching them, but you should really have a look.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 04:44, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Question
Thank you for your actions and recognition of my efforts. Do you know which administrator I should request to have these pages disabled from IPs and new editors? Meaning who should I request for semi-protection of these pages from newcomers and IPs who keep making disruptive edits. Let me know if anyone is advisable to consult. Best regards.--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 03:12, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Your best bet is Requests for page protection, also given his recent mudslinging, Sockpuppet investigations may be in order.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:16, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Given this users recent comments and suspected switching to IP editing, I don't think it's a bad idea at all. Problem is I got an exam on Sunday for my lifeguard course and homework to do. When I open an SPI later, would you be willing to leave a comment? I'll start off with an RFPP hopefully tonight and move to an SPI later on. I suspect this is the same IP based on the general area that edit warred me and I reported, but CU misinterpreted request.--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 03:22, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Happy to support.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:31, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I have filed a request over here. Just keep an lookout over there for now. We'll move to the SPI in a couple of days. Thank you for your advice and support.--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 05:15, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
 * , he's back and it's clear he's a sock, even IPs are reverting him. CheckUser is a good bet,--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 04:06, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Kintetsubaffalo, I will file a formal SPI hopefully tomorrow as I more time to gather evidence. I will send you the link to the case page once I opened it.--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 04:39, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I was opening a sockpuppet investigation page and looking through this users contributions to find the diff of him pinging a user for help as the IP was in edit summaries and talk pages. It looks like CU already blocked him before I could file the SPI. I am sure he's the same IP sock that edit warred me and another user last month. When I opened another SPI against the IP, I did it with the concern that this is a banned user based on his comments. The CU misunderstood my comments and closed the case page. Have a look when you can and tell me if it appears to be him. I am quite sure it is. We still have one unblocked IP user. Regards.--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 00:34, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I believe we found the sockmaster, so I have tagged it.--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 02:47, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

White Mischief
Thanks for this edit adding a "tone" tag to the article. Please could you make some suggestions on Talk:White_Mischief_(film) about how the article could be improved? --Northernhenge (talk) 21:52, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Christiaan Barnard
Were you able to take a look at the source? I'm still concerned that the paraphrasing may have broader problems. Samsara 09:28, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I live in Japan so no access to a lending library, but the whole thing reeks POV.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 09:31, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * A google search only brings up the Wikipedia article.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 09:40, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Let's continue this at the article talk page, where someone else has just joined in. Samsara 10:58, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Continue on your request
Could we continue on this request? --Goran tek-en (talk) 21:11, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Battle of Liberty Place Monument article
Good day. I notice you put a "tone" warning on the Battle of Liberty Place Monument article. Could you please be specific as to what problem(s) you think need to be addressed at Talk:Battle of Liberty Place Monument? Thanks! Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 10:40, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you!
Just wanted to thank you for the nice note you left on my talk page. It's also nice to see you as active as ever and doing great work! Cheers! -- Orionist  ★  talk  09:48, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Inviation to discussion page
Dear User:Kintetsubuffalo, Thank you for your recent valuable contributions to the Wikipedia page Peace Treaty with North Korea. The meaning of contents is now clearer and transparent because of your efforts and corrections. Please refer to the AfD discussion link below and comment your feedback for the topic if possible. Goodtiming8871 (talk) 13:25, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Peace_Treaty_with_North_Korea

Re:did you leave?
I have got vacances. I will about September 23th return.

Regards PawełMM (talk) 06:34, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Something that may interest you
Hello,

I changed some of your sock tags related to the Zeitgeist articles. I thought you may be interested to see ShantaethePirates SPI as this is the sock that is vandalizing those articles. --  Dane talk  02:27, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Graphics Lab
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"At" vs. "of"
Over the last several months I've noticed numerous edits changing the preposition "at", indicating location, to more generic prepositions, specifically "of", and possibly also "in", in reference to a specific location. While there may be instances where "at" is not an appropriate preposition, it's perfectly acceptable and appropriate to use when indicating something located at a particular place or its immediate vicinity. Other prepositions, such as "of" and "in" don't always provide the same meaning; for example, "of" in the same construction carries the implication that something originated in that place, not merely that it was there at a certain or indefinite point. In biographical articles, origin and location need to be carefully distinguished, and so "at" is usually preferable when the writer is not trying to indicate the subject's point of origin. "In" implies that the subject was located only within the physical boundaries of a place, which is often more specific than the information that the writer intends to convey, and may be inaccurate. For example, you can meet someone at a restaurant, or a tree, or a town, without meeting inside it. I realize that some people prefer to use "in" when speaking of something that occurs "at" a particular city or town, but that's often misleading. And some people prefer to use "of" whenever there's some relationship between a person and a place; but again, it's often misleading or inaccurate, when "at" merely indicates location, without implying origin or spatial relationship. I hope that moving forward, you'll consider whether the writer intended to give a location, or indicate belonging, origin, or relationship to the place's boundaries. "At" may be correct in many instances where a writer has chosen to use "of" or "in", but those prepositions frequently imply meanings other than those supplied by "at". P Aculeius (talk) 03:04, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
 * "Of" is not generic, it implies origin of, whereas "at" is a very specific location.
 * "particular place or its immediate vicinity"-Rome was a city of a million people. A "particular place" would be the Coliseum or the Pantheon, for instance. Vide:


 * at
 * 1.In or very near a particular place.
 * at that precise position;  at Jim’s house


 * in
 * 1.Used to indicate location, inclusion, or position within spatial, temporal or other limits


 * of
 * 3.Expressing origin. 1.Indicating an ancestral source or origin of descent.
 * You can say all that without biting other editors.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 05:30, 22 September 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm not "biting" other editors. I'm sorry if you felt my wording was too harsh, but I was simply trying to make clear that this particular change remains unwarranted, as I had on several previous occasions, perhaps less-strongly worded.  However, by the same token, you might expect that making the same stylistic change to a series of articles, and apparently ignoring the same objection to that change over a period of months, could seem like deliberate indifference to the intended meaning, or disrespectful to the editor trying to explain why the word used was the correct word for the situation.  And I also note that you're the one who, perhaps a bit ironically, referred me to the "assume good faith" policy in an edit summary while re-reverting my reversion, even as I was trying to explain it clearly and without being insulting here on your talk page, in order to avoid the same situation coming up repeatedly.  I always try to assume good faith, but so many of the edits to articles I patrol involve the substitution of one person's style preferences for another, without any other changes, that I may sometimes jump to conclusions (for instance, the never-ending change of "BC" and "AD" to "BCE" and "CE", which we classics editors constantly contend with; to me this seemed like another such an instance, but as you assure me that this wasn't your intention, I accept your explanation).  Let's call it a draw when it comes to politeness, shall we, and say we could each have been less obviously irritable in the edit summaries.


 * As for the intended meaning, the definitions you've quoted clearly support the point I was trying to make above. When I say that people and families from Roman history were "at" ancient Rome, I'm stating that Rome was the location with which they were associated; not necessarily their point of origin (for instance, the gens Maria was probably not originally from Rome, and may have been of Sabine or Oscan origin), and certainly not that they were spatially limited (within) Rome (many of Marius' famous deeds occurred outside of Rome; while he lived at Rome, his family lived at Rome, they may have dwelt in a villa outside the city proper), etc.  In some cases the difference may be one of emphasis: even when "in" could be used, it emphasizes the concept of "within", which isn't what I'm trying to stress, since individuals and families are highly mobile.  A Roman gens might be centered at Rome but have many members living outside the city; "in" might imply that all of them lived or remained inside the boundaries of Rome.  I reverted the changes because they altered the meaning of the sentences in unintended ways.  I hope we've arrived at an understanding now; after all, we both intend to work collaboratively, not competitively, for the benefit of the readers.  P Aculeius (talk) 13:24, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I submit that if several users have changed your words in the last few months, perhaps your word choice is not optimal. I've been teaching English for nearly 20 years. If the use is unclear to someone like me, then I daresay many others won't get it. But I'm not here to fight you or anyone.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:43, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
 * "of". - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 20:01, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

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Discussion at Talk:Midori (violinist)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Midori (violinist). Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 08:07, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Cuisine of Karachi
The Cuisine of Karachi is significantly different from the Sindhi cuisine and the merge would not be feasible. The cuisine of Karachi is closer to the Mughlai cuisine than to the Sindhi cuisine. The dishes, recipes and the ingredients are different in these cuisines. Centaur17 (talk) 16:11, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Season's Greetings
Happy Holidays text.png Hello Kintetsubuffalo: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, -- ψλ  ● ✉ ✓ 17:02, 21 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message

Seasons' Greetings
...to you and yours, from the Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 03:52, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Kintetsubuffalo!


Happy New Year! Kintetsubuffalo, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

-- ψλ  ● ✉ ✓ 23:11, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

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Received Pronunciation: U and non-U
Hi, see [] RoachPeter (talk) 09:06, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank "U"! ;) --Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 00:45, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Spock v Data
No arguments here. Spock has emotions, he simply suppresses them. Emotions are a valuable learning tool, hence Spock learns better than Data. Spock is also older than data, and could be portrayed by Nimoy throughout his life. They'd have to recast Data every 15 years to keep him going. Muah ha ha, people think I was joking when I mentioned having lists to prove these things...

The Je suis Ikea thing is actually a dig a Trump; around the time I made it (at the request of another editor) Trump had made a public remark about a recent terrorist attack in Sweden that never actually happened, except on some fake news site. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants  Tell me all about it.  15:26, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Trick question-McCoy vs Crusher. --Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 00:47, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
 * That is a trick question: McCoy would be the clear victor, except I never used to have dreams about him and Troi kissing... But the truth is: neither. The Doctor rises above the mediocrity of Voyager to be the stand-out victor. Owing mostly to his condescending bedside manner and programmatic inability to tolerate bullshit. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants   Tell me all about it.  07:33, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah, the Crusher Maneuver... yes, many a late-teen fantasy for me. Just can't get into The Doctor kissing anyone, even if he were a porcelain redhead...--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 07:57, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree. He should stick to medicine and managing off-planet military installations. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants   Tell me all about it.  15:44, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Okay, then Worf vs Teal'c, since we're headed there...
 * I can't say I can recall Teal'c falling victim to the Worf effect very often, though Worf is the original wolf-among-sheep-badass, and originality counts for a lot (plus, he learned to counter the Worf effect by the time he joined DS9). But c'mon, that's a trick question, too. Ronon Dex is the obvious winner, because he alternates between being completely fed up with being a badass and thoroughly enjoying the badass differential between himself and the rest of the cast. It depends on his mood. (And I have to add; it blows my mind to no end that no casting director in the years since SG-1 went off the air thought to get Michael Dorn and Chris Judge together on screen to give each other an arched eyebrow and a scowl, just for the fan service. There would be riots.)
 * Which, of course, leads us to the next logical question. Kirk or Jack O'Neill (two L's)?  ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants   Tell me all about it.  04:11, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Jack O'Neill of course, understated, can't be bothered to pronounce Goa'uld the same way twice, we know he's been there and has the t-shirt, same kind of "Gallic indifference" that makes Jean Reno so cool. Geometrically then the question splits-part 1: Jack O'Neil (one L) or Jack Burton? part 2: Daniel Jackson or Daniel Jackson? Food for thought-imagine Michael Dorn and Chris Judge on Game of Thrones. _Then_ Dorne wouldn't have sucked.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 14:13, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Burton vs O'Neil... Well, that's a tricky one. If it's a one-on-one fight, or a clash of supporting characters, I'm gonna have to go with O'Neil. If it's a frat-style "who can get laid more", Burton takes the obvious cake (dat ego, tho). If it's a knife-throwing contest, I think it'd be a draw. If it's a drinking contest, O'Neil by a longshot (hey, I'd be drinking, too if I were him).
 * By the way, I have a comic somewhere in which Jack Burton and Snake Plissken meet in a post-apocalyptic future. I giggled all the way through it.
 * As for Jackson v Jackson... Rodney McKay. Because McKay was way more of a aspy-nerdy-neckbeard at the start, but by the final seasons of their respective shows, it became clear that both of them took a level in badass. Of course, depending on the rules, Data outdoes all others in this respect, because he minored in ass kicking. Hell, he could probably kick the crap out of an army made entirely of of Worf, Teal'c, Ronon and Burton clones. He's (in theory; we never really see it) quite possibly the ultimate badass in sci-fi adventure. But if we confine ourselves to what is shown on-screen, then McKay. Of, but then there's Picard and every time he's been in an action scene (or any time you try to torture him. THERE. ARE. FOUR. LIGHTS. Bitch. ).
 * Hmmm, I guess what I'm getting at is; never pick a fight with a sci-fi nerd.
 * If Dorn and Judge were on GoT, then the show would have ran about 1-1/2 seasons; just long enough for them to kill almost all of the male cast members, impregnate the sand snakes, and then fight each other to a mutual death, at which point Samwell Tarly is the toughest SOB left alive on the continent, and thus he takes the throne to rule over his much-diminished kingdom.
 * Which naturally leads us to; Jon Snow or John Sheppard? ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants   Tell me all about it.  14:40, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Samwell Tarly is the toughest SOB left alive on the continent-us cute fat bookish types need to stick together. Sheppard of course, as he would never sleep with Daenerys I'm-queen-because-it's-my-turn. Kneel to me, I just got here Targaryen. Wish Randyll Tarly had finished his boss speech with "Wolverines!"
 * Many talk about "series fatigue", and it's obvious. The showrunners and their advisers (apparently George Lucas, M. Night Shyamalan and Michael Bay) should take some notes from the creators of South Park, which surprisingly has been running 20 years now and suffers no such visible series fatigue.
 * pre-season Tyrion/pre-season 5 Arya/Lyanna Mormont?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 14:54, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Uh, Lyanna Mormont scares the shit out of me, and I know she's fictional.
 * The only possible competition she has is Eleven. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants   Tell me all about it.  15:25, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm aware of the show, but it hasn't caught on here in Japan, so I've never seen it.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 06:53, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, you really should, especially if you're of an age (as I am) where you grew up on PG-rated sci-fi and R-rated horror of the 1980's. If you access netflix through a netflix-dedicated proxy in the US, you can see the US selection. Hola works great for this; it's not particularly secure, so I wouldn't use it for that purpose, but security at netflix.com is plenty for your username and password, and hola proxies have a high bandwidth. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants   Tell me all about it.  14:21, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Sha're in the series or Sha'uri in the film?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 12:29, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * That one... I don't know. I think I'm going to go with Sha'uri because she had a far more active role than she did in the series.
 * How about Starbuck or Starbuck? ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants   Tell me all about it.  14:21, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Kara Thrace is more developed as a character, but she was never on the A-Team.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 15:17, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * True, but in weapons accuracy, she would blow B.A. Baracus out of the water, and she's by far the superior cigar chomper to Hannibal Smith. Okay, maybe not "by far", but she certainly knows how to grin around a cigar and make me giggle in delight. And according to the miniseries DVD special features, Katee once took Dirk out for coffee, quipping that Starbuck was buying Starbuck a Starbuck, which is dad joke heaven, right there. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants   Tell me all about it.  15:37, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Ya got me there-ladies and cigars... The cool thing about Japan is the limited sound pallet makes a lot of homonyms. The students roll their eyes every time I make an oyaji gyagu-old coot gag.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 15:58, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You know, I once made a point of studying Japanese with a friend of mine, and we got to where we could converse with each other to a limited degree. But I'll be damned if I really get what you're saying there, beyond recognizing that Japanese pronunciation of the two words would be similar enough for punning.
 * Most of my remaining Nihongo consists of a (very) few proper nouns, and a (small) handful of nouns and verbs related to martial arts. I've had no-one to speak it aloud with for over a decade, and romanji is hardly the preferred form on the internet, while my kanji, katakana and hiragana are essentially non-existent. Truth be told, I'm more than a little jealous of people who can speak it fluently. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants   Tell me all about it.  16:08, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * --Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:04, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * "Oh man, being civilized is boring!" lol good stuff. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants   Tell me all about it.  13:49, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Scouting in Turkmenistan
It's not often that I thank somebody for reverting my edits, but I thank you here as well as with the 'thank you' link - you are correct about the capitalizations. I put back the other minor edits (see the edit summary for the explanations).

Ira

Ira Leviton (talk) 15:30, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:59, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians who like Black Mirror
Hey! I saw that you edited the article Black Mirror and thought maybe you would be interested in this new user category I created?- 🐦Do☭torWho42 ( ⭐ ) 12:01, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Scouting/USA
Have anything to add Scouting/USA? --evrik (talk) 19:49, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Dan Ownby for deletion
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Number of BSA Councils
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Invitation to join the Ten Year Society
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YGM
ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants  Tell me all about it.  17:49, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

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Public display of affection and Disgust
Hey friend, please give me a hand on watching the recent edits by user:Cold Season. This user favors Chinese culture and is deleting the content that is related "disgusting" Chinese culture, but specifically single out Manchu and Japanese ones. All the sources he is citing about Manchus actually came from one - Shirokogorov's, Social Organization of the Manchus: A Study of the Manchu Clan Organization which is based on Shirokogorov's visit to Northern Manchuria (not all Manchus) in 1900s and is obviously out of date, too.--Šolon (talk) 05:28, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Please feel free to join the discussion about the issue stated above .Thanks!--Šolon (talk) 01:34, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Arthur W V Reeve
Have added dates and refs for the article on Arthur W. V. Reeve. Hugo999 (talk) 14:24, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Dilara Büyükbayraktar


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Dilara Büyükbayraktar
Hi Kintetsubuffalo, IMDB is not a valid reference, it is non RS source and covered by WP:SPS. IMDB is user generated, and outwith editorial control. The only time it is valid, is if the information comes direct from the MPAA or the Writers Guild of America, and in both it is fact checked. A mini bio is not a valid source.scope_creep (talk)
 * I got it and am working on it. There is an equally-poorly sourced Turkish article. Trying to drum up interest...--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 11:48, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Talkback
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Color me surprised
I've had very positive interactions with you and hope to have more. I'm sure you can recite the Scout Law, but a brief review may be in order.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  14:14, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your kindness, but the Scout Law is not a suicide pact or an endless supply of cheeks to turn. That user has been undoing my edits and being "civilly" aggressive to me for months. I've had it. I may get blocked but I won't get banned, I don't do anything to merit that, and I am a net benefit to the project. I wish someone would listen and run a search where our usernames intersect-then it would be quite evident why I don't regret or retract calling him out.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 14:22, 21 June 2018 (UTC)


 * A bit of advice: If you're being hounded, go report it at ANI. I'm dead serious, because you will end up being seen as the "bad guy" if you just respond by insulting BMK. If you have a good reason to be pissy, lay that reason out. Expecting an admin to dig into your editing history and find a pattern is a bit much, but if you do the work yourself (which would be easier for you, anyways), you could get BMK a one-way IBAN or something to make it stop. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants   Tell me all about it.  14:26, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

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License Plate images
Much appreciated if you could add or expand upon the information in these : ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:45, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 * File:American Samoa license plate 1945 96~45.png
 * File:American Samoa license plate 1946 32~46.png
 * File:American Samoa license plate 1962 CP-59.png
 * File:American Samoa license plate 1966 537.png
 * File:American Samoa license plate 1969 1417.png, Also query if the palm tree element is above TOO?
 * File:American Samoa license plate 1974 0668.png, Also query if the palm tree element is above TOO?
 * File:American Samoa license plate 1977 3540.png, Also query if the palm tree element is above TOO?
 * File:American Samoa license plate 1996 R 518.png, Also query if the palm tree element is above TOO?
 * File:American Samoa license plate 2000 9035 centennial wide dies.png, Also query if the palm tree element is above TOO?
 * File:American Samoa license plate 2000 government.png, Also query if the palm tree element is above TOO?
 * File:American Samoa license plate 2010 5097 narrow dies.png, Also query if the palm tree element is above TOO?
 * File:American Samoa license plate 2011 5504.png, Image behind is certainly above TOO?
 * File:American Samoa license plate 1988 6750.png, Also query if the palm tree element is above TOO?
 * File:Guam license plate 1964 17437.png
 * What do you think I am doing right now?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 17:47, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

San'yūtei
Please verify my interwiki. Xx236 (talk) 08:18, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 11:10, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Be careful with scolding users
Hi Kintetsubuffalo! Let me start off by saying that you didn't do anything wrong (yeah, I know... it's a cliche and typical opener for messages like this... lol) but I wanted to message you and advise caution when leaving messages like this one to other users (even blatant trolls) where you state that you're "less receptive to liars", call them out for their unbelievable stories, and then state that you're "monitoring everything [they] edit from now on". These kind of messages will either frustrate, anger, or chase away legitimate new users who (despite the odds) are actually trying to help but don't appear to be, or they'll signal disruptive users to increase the amount of vandalism and trolling they're causing in order to do as much damage as possible while their account isn't blocked because you've told them that you're onto them and that they're now being watched. Either way you look at it, it usually never results in a positive or desired response or outcome. If you look on the user's talk page, I usually stick to leaving warnings or assuming good faith when possible (even if I know for sure that the user's intent is to vandalize and troll). It keeps the potential for retaliation low, doesn't draw attention to myself, and you're not allowing yourself to "play any cards face up". Figured I'd just message you and share ;-). Thanks for being a committed editor to Wikipedia and keep up the excellent work :-)! Best regards -  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   09:13, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Re: Dirty War in Argentina
I have noticed several sourced paragraphs have been removed when looking at the Wikipedia Dirty War page as it appeared in early 2017. There appears to be an attempt to present a more sanitized version of events, blaming conservative and right wing Argentines while concealing the crimes of the crimes of the Left Wing Guerrilla Armies of the ERP and Montoneros. Your observations are most welcome. (Temruog (talk) 23:27, 23 July 2018 (UTC))

Today Thursday 26 July, I included the following paragraph at the bottom of intro of the Dirty War Pg:

''The Montoneros later admitted losing 5,000 guerrillas killed or disappeared, and the People's Revolutionary Army (Ejército Revolucionario del Pueblo or ERP) admitted the loss of another 5,000 of their own combatants killed or disappeared. ''

It's important for the Argentine youth to not whitewash the crimes of the Left Wing Radicals that culminated in the 1976 Miltary Coup and the disappearances that followed among the guerrillas and their civilian supporters.

--Temruog (talk) 23:56, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

and
Hi Kintetsubuffalo! I saw that you added the Sockpuppet template to User:Editeur17 and User:Editor0217. Based on the edits made by both users, I agree that these accounts are likely to be the same person. However, the Editor0217 account hasn't edited since August 20, and the Editeur17 account was created and began editing today. It's possible that this user may have forgotten the details of their old account (Editor0217) and made a new account in order to continue editing. You may want to simply message the new account and ask them about the other account and the similar edits. Just assume good faith from the get-go and see if they need help with editing. If you need help or if things start to turn disruptive, file an SPI report or let me know. Cheers :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   23:44, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Organisation of Bulgarian Scouts
Take a look, try to improve if needed. In any case, the idea is that the original Bulgarian Scout Association (ОБМР) had its own article, because it has nothing to do with the current OBS. Anyway, I have found very poor information and useful references in books.--Gilwellian (talk) 11:36, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of List of Scout Promises by country for deletion
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Sent you an e-mail, Kintetsubuffalo
Sent you a reply to your e-mail, hope you're having a wonderful day or night today. I had a good time at school today myself, it's a really sunny day here. Lolifan (talk) 15:28, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Replied to your e-mail. Having a good weekend myself, hope you are too. Lolifan (talk) 19:29, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

File:Anatoliy Chepiga en wp.jpg listed for discussion
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FYI
Regarding, I just opened the thread WP:ANI —C.Fred (talk) 14:46, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Gazpacho
I wasn't expecting to be thanked for blanking that section. It's nice to meet someone who appreciates the demise of unsourced trivia sections. Thanks for the thanks. Edaham (talk) 07:38, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * It's mindless stuff like that that fosters a negative view of Wikipedia. Trivia, popular culture, covers-by-one-off-bands have no lasting notability. Glad to see I'm not the only one fighting it.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 17:30, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Proposal to split Economic_inequality
Hello, I would like to split Economic inequality. According to this link the article is 202 kB and WP:SIZESPLIT suggests an article be split after 40 kB. Also, on the top of the page is a banner that is two years old suggesting the article should be split.

Since I am new, I would like to build a consensus first, rather than WP:BRD. To that end, I put a post on Talk:Economic_inequality and am contacting everyone who has edited the page in the past month.

Thanks for your time and please come down to discuss! Seahawk01 (talk) 01:25, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Warning...
By the terms of your topic ban, you're required to inform users why you revert them, as you did here, by typing an explanation on their user talk page. Please remember to do so in the future. -- Jayron 32 12:46, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * You've misread the terms of the topic ban then. The terms are "If they revert vandalistic or disruptive editors". In my edit summary I stated "removal of sourced material", which is not definitively "vandalistic" (as it would have been had they replaced it with "poopwiener" or something), nor was it "disruptive" (like an edit war or a diatribe against the Palestinians would have been). It was just a run-of-the-mill removal of sourced material which I replaced. Perhaps you're hoping I will screw up, but I'm careful not to give you that opportunity.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 17:08, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I have no hopes in this regard. I am only informing you of the terms of the ban.  Please take care, as testing the limits of the ban usually go poorly.  -- Jayron 32 17:48, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not "testing" anything. I've been dumping pages off my watchlist and scaling back my activity. You can wallow in vandals for all I care.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 18:23, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Paul Martin (illustrator)
You put a tag on this article, for not being written in an encyclopedia format. My aim in writing this article was to be as straight forward as possible, and totally without any opinions and glamour-like words (as in magazines). Also to include all the illustrator's known credits, and back up every bit of detail. I've backed up even single lines with a reference, which is rarely done on nearly all articles. It could seem opinionated in the "background" section, but that is only setting the stage, and it's all backed up with a reference. A Wikipedia editor reviewed the article about a year ago and found everything quite sound, except felt a reference should be inserted in a spot. That led to my inserting reference #8. I'm through with this article, but probably the only one with knowledge to fix anything that needs fixing. It would help if you were more specific with that. I think it's one of the better articles on Wikipedia and received a B grade, long before I made major improvements to it (such as locating his portrait image). The extensive references/notes are needed, otherwise, much detail would not be possible to verify or locate. Jim Percy (talk) 19:46, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for being proactive on this, . I agree it's a very thorough article, and kudos for your hard work, but it reads like a book on the fellow rather than an encyclopedia entry. For example, the Background section goes into exhaustive detail without many sources. Hyperlinks to separate articles would save exhaustive explanation on this article. It should be more a digest that points readers where they should find more information. Again, I appreciate your hard work.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 20:05, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Some lines in the Background section may seem as opinionated, but they are really general knowledge and set the stage for the article. For instance: click onto the link in Reference #5, then click the words "Historical Note." Notice the sentence that goes " Because of this, the art of magazine illustrators and artists was perceived as a lesser body of work compared to the fine arts on display in museums and galleries through the early to mid twentieth century." There is NO other sources on the Internet or elsewhere on this illustrator. Hence, all the information on him must be in this article. Nothing can be linked to somewhere else. Click onto Ref. #9. The LOC couldn't find any info on him! That's very typical of all illustrators of that era, excluding the top ten or so (like Rockwell, Parrish etc). Nonetheless, he passed the notoriety test years ago. In fact it was a Wikipedia editor (not myself) who decided he was also noteworthy as a tennis player. But, that has its merits, as his name was often in the New York City newspapers, and he did play in three US Opens. (I've seen articles on tennis players at Wikipedia, just because they played in one US Open.

UPDATE. I added Refs. 3 & 4 on 10/30/18. There are several internal links in that section though. I had to approach this article the direct opposite of a Rockwell. There is a ton of info on him in existence, hence, it no doubt had to be greatly condensed into an article. There is absolutely no info on this illustrator, hence, it had to be accumulated (otherwise be lost to history!) into an article. The overview in "Background" serves to explain why NO info exist on illustrators, outside of a handful. Jim Percy (talk) 20:51, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * , you don't need to keep giving me updates, I have removed the tag, yesterday.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 19:03, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Okay. Awkwardly, when Ref. 3 was added, it changed the numbers of the previously mentioned references. And then when Re. 4 was added, it changed them all again. Hence keep correcting the reference nos., less they cause confusion if reread. Jim Percy (talk) 19:13, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Secession of the East Valley from Maricopa County
Efforts for the East Valley of the Phoenix metropolitan area to secede from Maricopa County was in fact a real proposal in both the early 1990s and early 2000s. Since this was over 10 years ago and the issue hasn't resurfaced ever since, most resources on the effort are paywalled. However, this is not a hoax and this was in fact a serious proposal back then. ANDROS1337 TALK 21:22, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I edit a lot of Arizona articles, can you hum me a few bars?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 01:57, 31 October 2018 (UTC)