User talk:KittyKat2022

March 2022
 Your account has been indefinitely blocked from editing because of the following problems: the account has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, and your username indicates that the account represents a business, organisation, group, or web site, which is against the username policy.

You may request a change of username and unblock if you intend to make useful contributions instead of promoting your business or organization. To do this, first search Special:CentralAuth for available usernames that comply with the username policy. Once you have found an acceptable username, post the text at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with your new username and replace the text "Your reason here" with your reasons to be unblocked. In your reasons, you must: Appeals: If, after reviewing the guide to appealing blocks, you believe this block was made in error, you may appeal it by adding the text at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your reason here" with the reasons you believe the block was an error, and publish the page. Cullen328 (talk) 19:26, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Disclose any compensation you may receive for your contributions in accordance with the Paid-contribution disclosure requirement.
 * Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the kind of edits for which you were blocked.
 * Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.


 * Hello, I'm a new user and this incredibly harsh. I'm not a bot or spreading miss information. I'm just making page about a company. Like Wikipedia has many other companies have pages and users under their names, like Disney, Apple, RadicalMedia, Vice Media, and many many more. Bullion Productions (talk) 15:41, 8 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not a place for you to promote anything. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Please describe what constructive, non promotional edits you would make. -- Deep fried okra ( talk ) 18:16, 8 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello, Kathryn. I'll try to answer some of the points you have raised, both here and on an IP talk page.


 * Firstly, I don't personally regard the user name as a very significant issue, and since the name has now been changed I don't think we need to dwell on it.


 * I understand your feelings about being blocked without warning. My personal opinion is that it would be better not to immediately block editors acting in good faith and unwittingly acting out of line with Wikipedia policies, but to inform them of the situation, and block them only if they then continue to edit in unacceptable ways.


 * You say "other companies have pages and users under their names". Presumably by "users under their names" you mean user accounts which have the names of the companies as usernames. There are no accounts with the user names "Disney" or "Vice Media". There is an account "Apple", but it doesn't appear to have any connection to the business of that name. There is an account "RadicalMediaNYC", which is connected to the business RadicalMedia, and it did edit in a promotional way about that business, so it was blocked from editing 32 minutes after its first edit. That was in 2019, and it has remained blocked ever since. The same happens to other user accounts in the same situation.


 * You are of course right in saying that there are Wikipedia articles about companies, including the four you have listed. However, none of those four is anywhere near as promotional in character as the draft you created.


 * You may find it helpful to read Wikipedia's conflict of interest guideline, which discourages editors from editing about people, businesses, or organisations to which they have a personal connection. One of the main reasons for that is that very often someone closely involved in a subject they are writing about finds it difficult, or even impossible, to stand back from their own writing on that subject, and see how it will seem from the detached perspective of an uninvolved outsider. That can have the result that their writing seems promotional to others, even if they sincerely believe they are writing neutrally. It may be that has happened in your case, if you honestly didn't see your own writing as being radically different in character from the four articles you have referred to.


 * If you search hard enough, you probably will manage to find other editors who have so far got away with writing unacceptable articles, because unfortunately not all such articles are caught immediately by the volunteers who patrol new pages. We get rid of them when we can, but meanwhile the fact that a particular page exists which doesn't comply with Wikipedia policies doesn't mean that it's all right for other pages with similar faults to exist.


 * Almost all of us, when we first start contributing to Wikipedia, know little or nothing about Wikipedia's requirements. Consequently many new editors start out unaware that they are doing things which don't comply with Wikipedia's policies; I did so myself, and certainly don't blame anyone else for doing so. (In fact a significant number of people start out without realising that there are any requirements, and think that "anyone can edit Wikipedia" means "anyone can edit Wikipedia in any way they like", but that is a serious misunderstanding.) One of the commonest of such mistakes is thinking that it's OK to use Wikipedia to, in your words, "inform and educate" people about one's business, which is to say to use Wikipedia as a medium to publicise one's business. However, that is contrary to Wikipedia's policy against use of Wikipedia for promotion.


 * No administrator is likely to unblock your account as long as it seems that you expect to return to editing to publicise your company. Therefore, if you have no interest in contributing to the encyclopaedia in other ways, then my advice, unwelcome though it no doubt will be, is that your time would be more effectively spent in using other means to get publicity, and forget about editing Wikipedia. If, on the other hand, you are interested in becoming a volunteer editor contributing on other subjects, then you are very welcome to request an unblock, making it clear that that is your intention.


 * I have put a significant amount of time into composing this message, in the hope that it may help to clarify the relevant issues for you. Of course I know it isn't the kind of answer you were hoping for, and I'm sorry that is so, but I think it is more likely to help you to let you know what all the problems are than to leave them hidden. JBW (talk) 21:38, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, I appreciate that you've put a lot of information into your message. But what is frustrating is that I'm now not able to take this feedback and amend a page with the information.
 * As I've said before, I only published the page when it was in its beginning stage to maintain an informative structure. It was a page that would have been regularly checked to make sure all the information provided is up-to-date, and would have contributed by editing to other pages. This company has been mentioned on others wikipedia pages, which is why we wanted to link with this Wikipedia page.
 * Some of the subjects the pages was going to discuss was a detailed history of the company, starting with the founders and to how they are working today, to a documentary that was released about being gay in the football premier league. But I wanted to be able to review the topics of the pages before releasing it. The draft that was published had an opening with the business information and when it was founded and a couple headings, no real information. It was like a plan you'd write for an essay, just at the beginnings.
 * I appreciate all the advice and explaining, however, it still now means that instead of being able to contribute to this community, I'm stuck with no access to edit any other pages. Which it is harsh, especially when I'm still learning how to use this site and to publish information.
 * Many Thanks, KittyKat2022 (talk) 13:47, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Rename from "Bullion Productions" to "KittyKat2022"
Rename from "Bullion Productions" to "KittyKat2022" -- Deep fried okra ( talk ) 18:14, 8 March 2022 (UTC)