User talk:Kivel

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Hello, Kivel, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type   and your question on this page, and someone will show up shortly to answer. Here are a few good links for newcomers: We hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! By the way, you can sign your name on talk and vote pages using four tildes, like this: &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126;. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! --A NobodyMy talk 01:58, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
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Your recent edits
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Your page move
Hey! Thanks for renaming the article Suonenjoki rail crash and pointing me to the correct naming conventions :) I'll use them in the future. › mys id (☎∆✎) 08:21, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Your recent edit
On the basis of this edit:, I have blocked you indefinitely. -- Samir 20:35, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * That being said, assuming this is Shalom, as you have yourself noted, you have done many productive things toward building this encyclopedia. If you wanted to either (1) come back under your old account or (2) come back under a different account and not hit up people who opposed your RfA, I'm sure your work here would continue to be appreciated.  Thanks -- Samir 20:47, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Response
I do not wish to be unblocked, but I would like a friendly admin to delete: Then delete this page (User talk:Kivel) and I'll be gone. Kivel (talk) 00:37, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * User talk:129.98.212.164 – not technically WP:OLDIP because it was blocked, but no edits or blocks in the last year
 * User talk:129.98.212.53
 * User talk:129.98.212.63
 * User talk:71.174.226.117
 * User_talk:71.174.224.76 - not technically OLDIP, and not technically my edits, but it's close enough.


 * I won't repost the template but I hope someone is watching. Yes this account is blocked.  I have a whole bunch of other accounts which I used before - in some cases more than a year before - and the talk pages of those have been deleted.  I would prefer not to list them here but if you don't believe me I can do it.  I was granted the right to vanish on those accounts.  I'm not asking for anything I was not given before.


 * Furthermore, even indef-blocked users can be given RTV. See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Daniel Brandt/open letter for a current example.


 * Furthermore, the IP talk pages linked above, by and large, can be deleted anyway per WP:OLDIP even if I didn't ask for it. I'm asking for it.  Please don't give me a hard time. Kivel (talk) 02:01, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Likely Sockpuppet
User:Kivel needs to be treated as a sockpuppet. The evidence is clear from this diff []. The first edit by Kivel was made on 25th February 2009, so how can he make claims about vandalism and Sockpuppetry from two years ago. In the last couple of days this user has made many contentious page moves/renamings without seeking to gain consensus. If others agree, then I shall submit a RFCU. Bhtpbank (talk) 07:51, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * We are well aware that this is a sockpuppet, there is no need to 'treat' them differently than we are now, though, since they are indefblocked and people know what is going on. &mdash; neuro  (talk)
 * I don't deny it. I reiterate my request to have this page and the IP talk pages in the previous section deleted.  Then I will go away.  If I wanted to hide who I was, trust me it's not hard, but I've gone that route and I'm done with it.  Just let me go with a low profile. Kivel (talk) 20:32, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Note also that the pagemoves had consensus, or at least lack of significant opposition, at an RFC months ago Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (events). The guideline was for rail accidents that had no more specific name.  Does anyone really care?  I just wanted to create a standard style. Kivel (talk) 20:34, 26 February 2009 (UTC)