User talk:Kiwigov

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Username concerns
Welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. However, I noticed that your username (NZparliament) may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because is the name of an organization and creates the appearance that you are editing on behalf of the organization. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a change of username, or you may simply create a new account to use for editing. Thank you. —C.Fred (talk) 18:03, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
 * thx - I requested Kiwigov. NZparliament (talk) 00:53, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Not that it matters, because thanks to Moriori's miserable attitude, I QUIT. Kiwigov (talk) 06:42, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry that you're going to give up over your first—and relatively minor, in the grand scheme of things, as I've seen and been involved with lots worse—disagreement over an article. Editing on Wikipedia isn't always wine and roses. There are times when editors disagree; usually the best result is to talk it out on the article's talk page. That way, a consensus of involved editors can be determined through the discussion. (And for the record, I support your edit to the John Carter (New Zealand) article; the link looks fine to me.)
 * I hope that after you've had a chance to relax a little, you do come back to Wikipedia. When you do, if I can be of any assistance to you, don't hesitate to leave a message on my talk page. —C.Fred (talk) 14:16, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Welcome
Hi there, I'd like to welcome you to Wikipedia. Your user name and edits would suggest that you work at parliament. If that's so, would you possibly be in a position and release photos of MPs with a licence suitable for Wikipedia? If you can help, we can discuss how to go about this. You can reply here, as I'm watching your page. And thanks for tidying up all the external links — great work.  Schwede 66  23:04, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Personal attacks
I'm sorry that you have taken so personally the removal of links by Moriori, and you are welcome to leave Wikipedia if you cannot collaborate on articles. However, the postings you have made at user talk:Moriori violate our policy on personal attacks. Please either contribute collaboratively to the encyclopedia or leave peacefully.- gadfium 21:04, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

jftr, what the above refers to
Former MPs do have working links in Parliament. If you weren't so eager to smash things rather than fix them, you would have noticed that. And you couldn't even be bothered to let me know there might be a problem. I hope our paths never cross again but I suppose I'll have to watch your contributions in future to make sure you aren't deleting everything I do. What a waste of time. Oh yeah - I'll assume you were smashing in good faith. As if. Thanks for ruining my (formerly) good mood, as I was enjoying making some useful contributions to Wikipedia articles. Kiwigov (talk) 01:03, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Welcome to Wikipedia. Now, a recap. With this edit you added a link to the current MPs list, for Carter. Problem was it was for David Carter, not John Carter so I removed it. I went to replace it with one for John Carter, but there is none, so I couldn't. You then added another link, but like the first one it too went to the wrong person, this time, Cam Calder. I removed it with the edit summary "Cannot replace it because Carter is no longer an mp". You have responded by inserting a brand new link to Former MPs. I was unaware Carter has been added to that list, but that is beside the point because I was removing links to current MPs. If you intend to edit Wikipedia for a while I suggest you don't shout in your edit summaries as you did with "Former MPs DO HAVE WORKING LINKS. Wikipedians fix links rather than delete them", and you address the actual issue and don't jump to conclusions. Moriori (talk) 02:32, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Not true! The actual issue was that you deleted ALL the links I added for him. That is the recap. The two other links worked fine, but you deleted them as well in your hurry to smash everything someone else did. In other words, you are the one who jumped to conclusions. Now you're trying to claim you only deleted the one that was a problem. Even your edit summary is wrong. The man's resignation was presented the same day I was adding the links, unknown to me, so it seems the Parliament link was being moved from current to former which caused pointer problems when I clicked on it. Things happen. It only needed to be fixed. I would have thought an Admin would be capable of figuring that out. Nor could you figure out how to leave a message on my Talk page so I could figure it out. You just couldn't wait to smash everything. I only came back to the article because I was going through the non-Cabinet people on the list. Did you fix that list, once you realized this was a former MP? No, you did not. That would have been "work", requiring "thought" and "effort". Same as you mis-corrected the hat note on the other John Carter MP. Based on your arrogance, I thought it likely you were an Admin. What a surprise, I was right. And Jimbo wonders why the numbers of actual contributors are going straight downhill. I have NO intention of continuing to contribute to Wikipedia because you obviously would prefer to do everything yourself. You're not at all welcoming, helpful, polite, assuming good faith, or anything else I was led to believe is part of the Wikipedia ethos. So I leave you to it. You didn't even have the grace to apologize for deleting the other links, you just tried to blame me in this audit trail. Go lecture someone else, because I'm out of here, and you can be sure I won't be encouraging anyone else to participate in what could have been a good project. Your attitude is horrendous, and I'm sure I'm not the first one you've chased out of here. Well, keep it up and you'll soon have the whole thing to yourself. Enjoy. Go brag to your friends that you got rid of another contributor. I'm sure you're very proud of yourself. Kiwigov (talk) 06:34, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

That is undoubtedly a personal attack. Since you appear unable to contribute further to Wikipedia, I am blocking you until you are willing to agree to work productively and collaboratively.- gadfium 02:22, 4 August 2011 (UTC)