User talk:Kjoenth/Gracies Dinnertime Theatre

I created this article in the hope that someone will flesh it out. The genesis of the GDT project should be explained and the history of the battle between the publication and the administration should be detailed and properly cited. I got the idea of the article from Al Simone's talk page. The questions there can be better addressed once this article is properly written.

PeterMottola 18:06, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Unity sculpture
While the resemblance is uncanny, there is absolutely zero evidence that GDT had any actual influence upon the creation of the Unity sculpture. The anti-establishment nature of GDT and its numerous run-ins with the administration make any claim to the contrary absurd without reliable corroboration. Powers T 00:11, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

As one of the founders of GDT, I can add that the GDT logo meant "collaboration" and "shared burden" to the three founders (http://hellskitchen.org/gdt/images/members/marckellysean.gif). The visual similarity between Unity and the logo, the similarity in the meaning of GDT's logo and the sculpture's name, and the fact that GDT's first advisor was now retired RIT sculpture professor Bruce Sodervick make very compelling connections.--Kjoenth (talk) 22:36, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
 * That may be, but it's all original research and conjecture without a reliable source stating the connection as fact. Or at least stating as fact that someone important is of the opinion that there's a connection.  Powers T 01:11, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Can you clarify what you take issue with in the text of the image caption? I would rather not just keep undoing your edits. I have inserted more references (see below).--Kjoenth (talk) 19:15, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

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The lasting influence of GDT on the RIT community can be seen in the silver stainless steel piece named Unity, created by Juan Carlos Caballero-Perez and Leonard Urso and installed in the quad between the College of Imaging Arts and Sciences, the College of Applied Science and Technology, and the College of Engineering. Erected in 2008, the sculpture is visually similar to the logo used by GDT from 2000 to 2005. [quote]

The first two sources are fine but the third one is unsupported speculation from a biased source. What you're looking for is a reliable source (like a newspaper, or even Reporter) describing (perhaps via interview or reference to primary source documentation) how Caballero-Perez and/or Urso intentionally referenced the GDT logo in creating the Unity sculpture. Without that, it's incorrect to say that the sculpture demonstrates the "lasting influence of GDT". Powers T 15:54, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
 * And for the record, you're not undoing my edits; you're simply reinstating your edit after it was removed. Repeatedly. Powers T 15:55, 10 November 2015 (UTC)