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Addendum
Just as the Obituary of Hodgson Report issued by the SPR substantiates the veracity of the letters, any future claims based on scientific and/or academic methods demerits all previous scientific methods causing critics to fall into a state of mutual contradiction. Or will science deny the usefulness of the microscope and the historical validity of the letters keep in the British Museum?


 * I'm sorry but it is not clear to me what you are saying. Note I'm not arguing with the substance of any content you've added at Wikipedia.  Any reversions I've done are based on Wikipedia standards and norms like: WP:FORUM,WP:NOTE,WP:SOURCE, WP:OR, etc. --Klaun (talk) 17:24, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

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cn tags on Rebreather
Hi Klaun, You recently tagged Rebreather for citation needed. Could you be a little more specific as to what exactly you are challenging? Both paragraphs contain generally uncontroversial information, but it may be that there is something in there which you specifically find not obvious, and it will help me find the most appropriate citations if I know what to look for. Cheers, &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter (Southwood) (talk): 09:21, 19 December 2017 (UTC)


 * The info needs a reference whether it is controversial or not. Some of the content seems pretty specific and I didn't notice it in any rebreather sources I saw.  I can see how it would be a conclusion from existing sources, but that's not allowed per WP:SYNTH.  I don't think this is a WP:FACTS situation, as a lot the unreferenced statements are incidental to the subject of article, but core to it.  There are several paragraphs which raise new points that don't have any references. --Klaun (talk) 14:17, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
 * It actually only needs a reference if it is likely to be challenged, Since you have challenged it we can take that as a given. I have provided a reference, but I don't know whether you will find it satisfactory. I would prefer that it is, but it is not a huge issue either way. If there is anything more specific you wish to challenge, go ahead, it is all very basic rebreather theory. So basic most of the rebreather books don't bother to mention it as it is considered fundamental background knowledge for divers. Cheers, &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter (Southwood) (talk): 15:30, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
 * "likely to be challenged" is very open to interpretation. I'd say something that isn't common knowledge and is related to a somewhat obscure technology is ripe for being challenged.  Honestly, it just struck me as long blocks of prose with no references-- it makes it appear like the editor is providing the content rather than a source. --Klaun (talk) 19:38, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Obscurity is also in the eye of the beholder, and we often only find out by experience what someone else considers obscure. I have no problem with eventually having refs for every paragraph - besides verifiability, it helps editors who would like to clarify or expand content to find closely related information. It would be useful to have a tag that requests a reference but indicates that there is no challenge to the validity of content. There are lots of articles where this would be useful. I try to remember to put a reason parameter into my cn tags or edit summary where is is easily articulated, so there is some indication of whether it is a challenge or just a suggestion that there is unsourced content and it would be nice to have a source cited. Cheers, &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter (Southwood) (talk): 05:32, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Repeated removal of references
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Hi Klaun, Why are you removing the references continuously. In, your edit summary stated that you are removing unsourced and repeated facts. But instead you have removed 5 references. Out of which many were necessary and the fact and reference about collector notice in Madhya Pradesh to celebrate the event was removed completely. Why have you removed this important imformation which was well-referenced? Earlier also you have removed one reference-. What was the need to remove information about celebration in Jammu?Amicable always (talk) 04:39, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Continously? I removed them once, for the stated reason.  They all say the same thing and I was trying to be tidy.  As to why I removed the Collector notice reference, does that make it an official holiday in the state in which it was published?  I don't see anything in the references that state it does.  Is a government official publishing a notice noteworthy?  I don't think it is.  If you'd like to discuss the content that should be in the article, perhaps we should do so on the article Talk page.  I'm not particularly attached to the subject matter, I'm more concerned that content is not added in such a way that it pushes a particular position or promotes a subject over its actual importance.  I should probably have stated an explanation right from the beginning in the Talk page of the article.  Having failed to do that before, I've updated it now.By the way, can you please sign your post? --Klaun (talk) 02:28, 20 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm curious, too, as to why the links to the archived RhymeTorrents.com and NerdcoreHipHop.org were removed from the Nerdcore page. I realize you cited "WP:ELNO", but what, specifically, is the reasoning? MC Rooter (talk) 05:44, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
 * WP:ELPOINTS would probably have been more helpful, particularly point 2. But also WLP:ELNO 12 and maybe 16, also 1 and 19 seem applicable.  --Klaun (talk) 13:52, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

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Steven Miller
Hi I see your copy edit of the bit that's under attack by various Single Purpose Accounts. Unfortunately, I think that your version is not directly supported by the narratives in the cited sources, whereas the version that the IPs and new accounts keep reverting is a pretty close paraphrase of what the sources say.  SPECIFICO talk 02:18, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Hey, I'd dispute that my version is not directly supported. Both statements, that Miller avoided questions and that both participants talked over each other appear in [] here for instance.  But feel free to search for something better... I was trying to find something both side could live with.  I think the version I edited was misleading and the other version could be seen as not WP:NPOV by those who wanted to nitpick.  Happy editing.  --Klaun (talk) 02:24, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note. I've already edited that once so I'm inclined to let others have a shot at it. I guess the main reason for my visit here was that I thought you might have been trying to strike a compromise between, on the one hand, the sources, and on the other hand, a disruptive sock or single purpose account. Cheers.  SPECIFICO talk 02:30, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not much for appeasement generally, but in this case I felt that the disruptive edits might have a point with WP:NPOV and could maybe be convinced to leave off... I'm happy to add something to the Talk page or support a discussion there to explain what I was aiming for, . I imagine there are lots of editor eyes on that page though and it will work itself out.  --Klaun (talk) 02:33, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree. When there are plenty of editors, things usually get worked out to a good version in fairly prompt order.  SPECIFICO talk 03:02, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks for Alvarado reversion
Thanks for reverting a destructive edit to Juan Bautista Alvarado. I've been battling for years against a "California Republic" revisionist narrative of early California history, and the changes you reverted in the Alvarado article are typical falsehoods. Please continue to help me watch for these destructive edits. WCCasey (talk) 00:29, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

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