User talk:Kleinmonroe

Joy Division were a post punk band
Joy Division was a post punk band, not a gothic rock band. Even their Wiki article calls them post punk and not gothic rock. They may have influenced gothic rock bands, but that doesn't make them gothic rock. NME has been known to slag on goth bands and the subculture throughout its history. That one 'goth' issue that you are attempting to use as a reference is full of disinformation because the editors, and writers, don't know what they are talking about most of the time. The Cure are also post punk but are called gothic rock on the front cover. Just because goths listen to a band doesn't make that band gothic rock. I listen to NWA and Public Enemy, does that make them gothic rock? Mick Mercer, famous gothic rock historian, used to work for NME until he figured out that they really didn't care about the genre and were trying to make money off of it by publishing 'outrageous' type articles. Saying that NME is a top journalistic reference is really frightening to say the least. Also, you are linking to a page with the magazine cover on it, not to the article itself. Just because the copy next to it mentions Joy Division doesn't mean that they are calling them gothic rock.Crescentia (talk) 17:20, 23 May 2008 (UTC)