User talk:Kln4yd

400,000 Faces
The article 400,000 Faces has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done because the article seemed to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it did not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert notability may be deleted at any time. If you can indicate why the subject is really notable, you are free to re-create the article, making sure to cite any verifiable sources.

Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and for specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. --  Merope  19:55, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, if there are articles, those would definitely help! Please understand that the deletion has nothing to do with the objective of the group, but rather that we have to try to maintain standards for inclusion.  I'll restore the article to your userspace (User:Kln4yd/400,000 Faces) so you can work on it.  I'll also leave a welcome template after this message; it'll have some helpful links on how to get started.  --  Merope  20:19, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I see that Merope has already pointed you to our Notability guidelines. Google is always a reasonable starting point for gathering references.  When I search Google News, I find these two stories; I'm not sure if we're quite at the notability threshold, but see what else you can dig up. And welcome to Wikipedia! -- Jim Douglas (talk)  (contribs)  21:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

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Page restored
You may not have noticed, because it was at the same time as the Welcome message, but Merope indicated that she restored your article to your user space at User:Kln4yd/400,000 Faces. You should be able to work on it there, and then when you think it's ready you can ask an administrator (Merope, for example) if it's acceptable to create an encyclopedia article based on it. Leebo 86 21:09, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I have a suggestion. You list the references at the bottom, but it would be helpful to have inline citations. You can do this by adding around the citation at the end of the sentence it's for. Then under the References section, put instead of individually writing them out. As for notability, I recommended asking an admin because recreation of deleted material without approval is usually frowned upon. Merope, as the deleting admin, will probably have a good view on whether it would still meet deletion criteria or not. Leebo 86 05:50, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh... hmm, nevermind. You have inline citations, they're just external links. Well, my suggestion still applies from a formatting perspective. Leebo 86 05:53, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The article looks a lot better than when it was deleted. It's fairly well sourced now, but primary sources (such as pages officially related to the group) should be listed under an External Links section, rather than the References section. If something is a relatively uncontroversial statement about the group, it shouldn't require an inline citation and a reader would logically check the group's page for verification. Specific details and unaffiliated sources should be cited in the text though.


 * I'm not sure I would recommend recreation just yet. The mission statement section might not be needed (in its current form) and it's not recommended to refer to or cite references that a user must create a login to verify. Would you be open to adding the info as a section to the Darfur conflict article? Perhaps it could fit into the existing section on the international response. At the very least, you could propose it on the talk page. I'm not sure the existing media coverage is enough to sustain a standalone article. Leebo 86 14:13, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

400,000 Faces
I've moved it to the mainspace. I can't guarantee it'll survive a deletion discussion if one surfaces, but it certainly no longer meets the criteria for speedy deletion. The article is well-sourced and formatted--it looks great. Good work. --  Merope  01:07, 16 February 2007 (UTC)