User talk:Kmr104

Welcome!
Hello, Kmr104, and welcome to Wikipedia! My name is Shalor and I work with the Wiki Education Foundation; I help support students who are editing as part of a class assignment.

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New sandbox
Hi! Directions on creating a new sandbox can be found here and this has information on how to do things like italicize or bold text. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:24, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

May 2019
Welcome to Wikipedia. A page you recently created, More Facts about Music Therapy, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines for new pages, so it will be removed shortly (if it hasn't been already). Please use the sandbox for any tests, and consider using the Article Wizard. For more information about creating articles, you may want to read Your first article. You may also want to read our introduction page to learn more about contributing. Thank you. ST47 (talk) 21:36, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Please refrain from introducing inappropriate pages, such as Music Therapy--Kmr104, to Wikipedia, as doing so is not in accordance with our policies. For more information about creating articles, you may want to read Your first article; you might also consider using the Article Wizard. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. ST47 (talk) 21:38, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I reverted all of your edits to Talk:Music therapy. Article talk pages are used to discuss changes to articles, not to write long essays about the subject. See WP:NOTAFORUM.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:59, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Final warning: If you disrupt Talk:Music therapy one more time, I will block you. I don't know how else to get your attention. I don't think you're being malicious, but you can't use Wikipedia as your private playground.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:15, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I understand you're a student. If you weren't, I would already have blocked you. You say on my Talk page (you don't need to post there - you can keep the conversation here) that you just want to get your work submitted and get a "final grade". Sorry, but you may use Wikipedia to learn, but you can't violate policies or guidelines to achieve your goal. You should seek help from Wiki Ed on how to go about learning, fulfilling your assignment, and complying with Wikipedia policy.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:37, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Music Therapy Talk page
I am not trying to be malicious or use Wikipedia as my “private playground.” I’m only trying to submit the work my professor had me do. I was trying to move my sandbox to live and merge it with the appropriate article. I’m sorry you feel like this is “malicious”or “purposeful”, but that is not my intention. I just don’t know what I’m doing and trying to get my final grade for the semester. Thank you for your time. Kmr104 Kmr104 (talk) 13:37, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Read my comments above. Also,, can you help because I don't think I'm getting through?--Bbb23 (talk) 13:40, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks.
Thanks. Kmr104 (talk) 13:39, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Kmr104/sandbox moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Kmr104/sandbox, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Praxidicae (talk) 15:05, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Moving work live
Hi - I saw that you moved your sandbox live and made several attempts to do this. Unfortunately your sandbox looks to be a collection of notes. This type of thing should remain in your sandbox, as it's not really an article and as there's already a music therapy article, there's no need for a second one. When your edits are ready, you need to copy them over to the main page. Make sure that they're properly sourced and written, however.

Please do not move your sandbox live again. Your instructor will still be able to find it regardless of where it is, as sandbox pages are not private (ie, anyone can find and access them). Traditionally people won't edit another person's sandbox page without permission as a form of etiquette. The only times it will be edited otherwise is in cases of things like plagiarism/copyright, threats, and other similar things. As far as the evaluation goes, this is something that should be in your sandbox or a similar page. The article evaluation as a whole is something that is too general to post to the article's talk page.

I do need to strongly caution you that if someone removes your edits, it's important to discuss the removal with the other person and if needed, message me so I can step in. Re-adding the content is not really a good idea since it can be seen as disruptive. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:33, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi! I wanted to respond on your talk page since I saw the post on my talk page. Aside from the above, what you need to do is to edit the live music therapy article. You don't need to move your sandbox live as a whole - this training module covers how to add content to a live article - I've selected the exact slide that gives an explanation of this process. It looks like your edits will be minor tweaks and changes to the grammar and sourcing of the page. This is absolutely fine and something that's fairly necessary on Wikipedia, especially as sometimes sources need to be updated if a link goes bad or if the source didn't have all of the citation's information. If you have any questions about doing this, definitely let me know! Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:10, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Blocked
If I add stuff to the live article “Music Therapy” on the talk page, will I get blocked? I’ve been threatened that I would be.

Thanks,

Kmr104 Kmr104 (talk) 19:24, 6 May 2019 (UTC)


 * How much "stuff" are you planning to add, and what is it/where is it? From reading the notes above at, my guess is that yes, you will be blocked if you attempt to edit Talk:Music therapy again, if it's anything like what you added before.  So, don't do that.
 * If I were you, I would create a sandbox subpage, or User space draft containing exactly the content that you'd like to place on the article talk page, and then ask User:Shalor (Wiki Ed) to review it, to see if it's appropriate to add to the article talk page, before you attempt to edit the Talk page again. You're welcome to ping me and ask me as well, or you can ask on my talk page. Be sure to include a link to your draft when you do. Cheers, Mathglot (talk) 10:13, 7 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi Kmr104. The article evaluation should not go on the talk page or on any live page. I've moved this content to your sandbox so your instructor can see it. Also, thank you for your suggestions. Mathglot is definitely correct in that you can always ask me to take a look at something if you're unsure or if you want to add to the music therapy talk page again. Also, another user  brought up a good suggestion - the page could use information about live music therapy. There are some good sources out there such as this and potentially this (looks like it's a literature review, not a study). This is a study, but you can pull information from the literature review conducted on page 9. The literature review in this could also be usable, just make sure that you don't include anything that is part of a study conducted by the people who wrote the article. This is usually pretty easy to determine, as the literature reviews will come first and then they'll start talking about the study in a new column heading. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:01, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Let me know whatever help you need. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:01, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Shalor, kmr's course is scheduled to end on 9 May, and it's not clear to me if they're carrying on after the end of the course, or planning to do something in the next couple of days. Care to comment on this, kmr? What are your intentions with the Music therapy article at this point?  Do you still need help with it?  Mathglot (talk) 22:32, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Course ending
The course ends this week and I don’t know what my intentions are for this. I’ve done what I feel like I could and I still feel stuck with what my instructor wants me to do. Kmr104 (talk) 00:04, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Music therapy concern
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Your draft article, Draft:Music therapy


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