User talk:Kmweber/Archive8

RFC
Kurt, thanks for explaining your side of the situation to me on IRC yesterday. I apologize if I come off as overly abrubt. I'm writing here to encourage you to take part on the RFC talk page. My goal in participating there is not to find some sort of sanctions against you. They aren't warranted. But I do want to find some outcome that will resolve this situation so that there isn't a long string of RFCs about it, so that it doesn't reappear on ANI every couple weeks.

I think it is very unfortunate that your comment about two admins being "poor administrators" was construed as a personal attack. I introduced a view in the RFC that it isn't, which has quite a bit of support. Legitimate criticism, as Friday points out, is not in itself a personal attack, and your comment did not have any personal nature to it.

The main area in which we disagreed yesterday, I think, is related to this comment you made on your first RFC, and expressed to me again yesterday: "Just because doing something makes someone angry is not a reason to stop, if that person's anger is completely unreasonable". There are many situations where that comment isn't right. For example, if a person's girlfriend asks "does this make me look fat?", and the guy truthfully says "like a cow!", he can't plead that she is upset unreasonably. Similarly, your continued statements at RFA are provoking responses that are predictable before you make them. Is there any compromise that you can make with the people who are getting upset? &mdash; Carl (CBM · talk) 21:27, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

There is a very brief proposed compromise on the RfC page located under the heading "Creative suggestions for what to do with the dead horse" if you're interested...Epthorn (talk) 03:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * ...and my notice of that is not an endorsement of it. Still, if you have any suggestions for how to move on that you are not tired of explaining again and again, I'm sure people would like to hear it instead of dealing with these RfCs every time they pop up.Epthorn (talk) 04:04, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

xDanielx's RFA thanks
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RfC situations, etc.
Hello Kurt. You don't know me from Adam, but I thought I would express my thoughts somewhere you would see them. It appears that both sides' minds are made up and it is now Yankees vs. Red Sox, so it is pointless joining in at this point for me as I feel like the Devil Rays (or whatever they're called now). However, your !votes do not seem offensive, so I wanted you to know that I will support your right to opine at the RfA's. The old adage goes: I might not agree with what you say, but I will defend to my Wiki-death your right to say it (just for the record, I do have qualms about your stance, but that is moot). Remember to keep it clean, as every word you type now seems to be pounced upon. Regards.--12 N oo n 09:55, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

USRD Newsletter - Volume 1, Issue 17

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Haha funny
Support I view self-noms as prima facie evidence of having balls EJF (talk) 22:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)-- posted on the RfA for jj137 Avruch Talk 02:02, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

New Harmony's Atheneum
I saw that you took pictures in Posey County before. I am doing an article on New Harmony's Atheneum and would appreciate, if possible, if you could take a picture or two of it whenever it's convenient. If it won't be possible, that's cool; I just thought I'd ask as I'm from Jeffersonville-a bit too far to do such a thing. ;-) --Bedford (talk) 05:47, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * You know, when I took my photograph of the western end of SR 66 in New Harmony I had actually parked in the Atheneum parking lot...and I can't believe I didn't take a picture of the Atheneum while I was there. Stupid, stupid, stupid me!  Oh, well...with the weather and sun like it is I probably won't be able to get a decent picture for another month or so (not that I take particularly good pictures in the first place), so we'll see when I get a chance.  Thanks for the suggestion!  Kurt Weber ( Go Colts! ) 07:18, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Turns out, there is a picture already for it. However, its at a weird angle.  If it takes you months, that's OK, but eventually we'll want something better.--Bedford (talk) 07:16, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Why do you care?
Why do you care?, a page you created, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Why do you care? and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of Why do you care? during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Equazcion •✗/C • 07:07, 12/25/2007

Thought you might want a look...
... at this. Nuff said. J- ſtan ContribsUser page 03:59, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, well it's been deleted. If you didn't catch it before it went, it was basically pablothegreat creating an RfA page and attaching your sig to it, creating the appearance that you nominated yourself for it. J- ſtan  ContribsUser page 04:03, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

AKeen
Would you please check this page and reconsider you vote?

Go COLTS!
GO COLTS! I'm a Browns fan and the Colts better win S♦s♦e♦b♦a♦l♦l♦o♦s ( Talk to Me  ) 18:38, 30 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I know. It was big news when Dungy announced it. Sucks for us; not much we can do. But still, it's Go Colts! for now.  S♦s♦e♦b♦a♦l♦l♦o♦s  ( Talk to Me  ) 19:14, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

U.S. Roads Newsletter, Issue 1

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USRD Newsletter - Issue 2

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How could you?
You opposed a rfb candidate right below me. You're a colts fan and i'm a Pat's fan. I feel like I need to take a shower. :)--Cube lurker (talk) 04:22, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, you choked again :D Kurt Weber ( Go Colts! ) 17:00, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

My RfA
Do you honestly believe that, after five years on the Project, I've suddenly woken up with the unquenchable thirst to force my viewpoint down the throats of anyone who disagrees with me? I understand your desire for a quick, easy template to apply to all RfA's, but don't I merit the least bit of closer evaluation? Would a "power-hungry" admin recuse himself from all but a thinly-specified set of duties and apply with the most liberal set of AOR requirements I've ever seen? I politely urge you to please reconsider your !vote after more closely examining my application.

On a slightly-different note, I surmise that you must have a hard time voting in governmental elections. As far as I am aware, Ron Paul nominated himself in 1988, and nominated himself as a Republican candidate for the primary for 2008. With the explicit caveat that you may refuse to answer on any grounds you wish, I'm curious how you handle real-life politics in light of your policy for RfA? Jouster (  whisper  ) 06:55, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Comments
Your comments, unless made tongue-in-cheek, were obvious vandalism and disruption of the talk page. Pats 1  T /<font color="#c0001d"> C 13:17, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Charles Godfrey
Because you are not allowed to do that, you would have to put on the top: Charles Godrey re-directs here to see the American football player see Charles Godfrey (American football) ,I had the same situation with Jackie Harris re-directing to Rosanne and I tried to do this but a user said I couldnt so I made it Jackie Harris (American football)--Yankees10 17:00, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

With regards to your comments on my RfA
You clearly misunderstand the whole point of sysop status. There is no 'power hunger', as such, there is simply a want to serve the community. Spamming more or less the whole self-noms RfA list purely on the basis that you think it is 'prima facie evidence of power hunger' is completely nonsensical, because if this was true then the self-nomination system wouldn't exist. αѕєηιηє t/c 22:01, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
 * In relation to any RFA you may want to read WP:SELFNOM. While you have a right to oppose for any reason you like, opposing for that reason alone is probably not a good idea <b style="color:blue;">Alex</b><b style="color:red;">fusco</b><sup style="color:green;">5 02:27, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I've read it lots of times already, and I've never bought into it. Kurt Weber ( Go Colts! ) 02:31, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * What exactly is the problem with selfnoms? <b style="color:blue;">Alex</b><b style="color:red;">fusco</b><sup style="color:green;">5 02:38, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Look through my talk page archives, please. This has been discussed a LOT over the last several months.  Kurt Weber ( Go Colts! ) 02:50, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, and there is very strong consensus that your oppositions based solely on the status of a nomination as a self-nom, while not overtly blockable, are meritless, destructive, and hurtful. I ask again that you stop posting them. Newyorkbrad (talk) 02:52, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No. Please stop harassing me.  Goodbye.  Kurt Weber ( Go Colts! ) 02:58, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

&larr; Can you at least supply a reason other than 'its a selfnom' when you are opposing <b style="color:blue;">Alex</b><b style="color:red;">fusco</b><sup style="color:green;">5 03:04, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Why? "Self-nom" pretty much sums it up.  Are you suggesting I lie?  Kurt Weber ( Go Colts! ) 03:08, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No but selfnoms are allowed in the RFA process and I understand that you selfnomed yourself. So are you saying that you were power hungry in that RFA? How would you have liked it if users opposed only because it was a self nom <b style="color:blue;">Alex</b><b style="color:red;">fusco</b><sup style="color:green;">5 03:23, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I was power hungry at the time. Would I have liked it then if people had opposed me for that reason?  Probably not.  Would they have been right to do so nonetheless?  Of course, as I now realize.  Peoples' minds change over time.  Get used to it.  Kurt Weber ( Go Colts! ) 19:09, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Really, when he says that this has been discussed to death - believe him, it has. There is simply no point in taking it further - the disruption caused by arguing with him far outweighs any disruption caused by his vote. <strong style="color:#000;background:#fff;border:0px solid #000">Avruch <strong style="color:#000;background:#fff;border:0px solid #000"> T 04:49, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll second that -- I know of no horse so dead, or so often beaten. --TheOtherBob 17:26, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Kurt is entitled to his opinion, and discussion seems pointless. Let be. <font color="#009500"> Dloh <font color="#950095">cierekim'''  05:05, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Although I would not normally comment on matters such as this, I feel compelled to throw my weight (for what it's worth) behind the concerns expressed above. It very much appears that you are simply blanket-opposing all RfAs, simply because the name listed under the nomination statement is not that after "Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/...". To demonstrate my argument against your oppositions, a hypothetical for you: if an editor self-nominates, and you offer up a "self nom. = power hunger" opposition; proceeding forward, a member of the Community decides to place a nomination statement on the RfA, effectively cancelling its self-nomination status. Does anything change?


 * That's a rhetorical question—the answer is no, it does not. As a summary, I feel strongly against your oppositions of self-nomination RfAs: there are a hundred and one more constructive activities you could take part in. Whilst I respect your opinion and, whilst I mightn't agree with it, I value your right to say it—I still feel it to be incorrect. And, judging from the numerous replies to your contributions of this nature, as well as the discussion above, so do a lot of others. AGK (contact) 17:23, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * While I don't agree completely with Kurt's position, I see his point, and I value it (however JFK's "ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country" is something I go along with). Why some users persist in considering it disrupting?  Snowolf How can I help? 07:45, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Crumpler
Ahh - okay! I did however fix that pro bowl thing - why do people list out all the years incorrectly?71.56.118.64 (talk) 03:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:American-chronicle
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Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 04:56, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

User: Shenoa & Company
I was recenly perusing the UAA board when I came across Shenoa & Company as a flag for attention. The nominator had written that the name was advertising, and you wrote, "You know this how?". If you had done either a quick google search for the name, or had checked out the user's contributions, you would have seen that it was indeed a promotional username. This was blatantly obvious with the creation of the article Shenoa & Company by said user. Next time please do not be so quick to dismiss and be snarky.  Queerbubbles |  Leave me Some Love  19:12, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Your RfA opposes
Please look here and here to see the thoughts left by other editors on your rather harsh way of voting on RfAs. You're comments would be valued. Thankyou, <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans-serif"> Lra drama 10:10, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Concerning your view that self-noms are "prima facie evidence of power hunger", are you opposing because you feel that these editors will abuse the power once they have it, or, that these editors may not abuse the power but are simply hungry for it. If it is the former, I would invite you to make an objective study of administrators' behaviour following successful RfAs (comparing self-noms with fellow-editor-noms) and see if, indeed, there is a pattern of power abuses.  If it is the later, I would appreciate knowing more about the origin of your opposition.  κaτa<span title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" class="IPA">ʟ aveno  TC 15:15, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Requests for adminship/Tivedshambo
You have a comment in reply to your oppose at the above Request for Adminship, your response to which I would be interested in. If you could find the time to pop by, that'd be great. AGK (contact) 22:32, 9 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Again, please see above. <font face="comic sans ms"><font color="#ff0000">D <font color="#ff6600">u <font color="#009900">s <font color="#0000ff">t <font color="#6600cc">i talk to me 16:58, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

A hand in the bush
I would call your comments on the AfD uncalled for and misguided, insofar as someone's review of a book that includes silly sexual puns qualifies as "hard work". Doing research on a book about vaginal fisting does not constitute a valid use of my own time, nor do I see it as something that would "expand my horizons". Please take more care to veil your insults more thoroughly next time. JuJube (talk) 23:39, 9 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't see why you think I was insulting you. If you're not interested in rewriting the article, fine--but I still fail to see how you could support deletion when you yourself said that it was a perfectly legitimate subject for an article, and the only problem was with HOW it was written.  Kurt Weber ( Go Colts! ) 23:54, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

ANI discussion
Hello,. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. <font face="Arial"> Corvus cornix talk  00:52, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I apologize for not posting this to your Talk page when I first posted to ANI, I was heading out the door and it hit me as I was getting nto the car that I hadn't notified you. <font face="Arial"> Corvus cornix  talk  00:52, 11 March 2008 (UTC)